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Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 9:18 am

I just got word from a source at FLL's maintenance dept of an apparent gear collapse of a Gulfstream International turboprop, likely a B1900, on FLL's main runway (9L-27R) which is now NOTAM'ed closed:

!FLL 05/020 FLL 9L/27R CLSD

I don't know anything further yet...
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 9:24 am

Further information:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...077.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

Quote:
Passengers on a Continental connection flight were treated to a bumpy arrival Sunday afternoon after the plane's landing gear gave way while on approach to Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport.

Upon landing on the runway, the right main landing gear on the Gulfstream Beach 1900 commuter airplane collapsed, causing the plane to rest on its side.

None of the 23 passengers including two pilots and one flight attendant were injured.

The flight originated in the Bahamas and was making a scheduled landing.

The runway used during the landing is closed and an investigation is underway.

Good to hear everyone's ok!
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 9:35 am

So that's why I was seeing the cross runway being used. Was great to see a 737-200 roar over my head on perimeter road.

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 9:44 am

A Beechcraft 1900 with 23 passengers and a flight attendant????

Pic on the Sun Sentinel shows tail #949.. I've spent a lot of time in that puppy....

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting USXguy (Reply 3):
A Beechcraft 1900 with 23 passengers and a flight attendant????

Well, they say including. What I'm assuming is that there were 20 passengers (one an infant in an adult's lap), plus the crew of 3.
 
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night

Mon May 22, 2006 10:20 am

hahaha.
A flight attendant on a Gulfstream Beech 1900? I'm Rick Ross and hustlin!
hahahah!

22 (19 + 2 pilots + one infant) tops, even then, I'm not sure if they had an infant.

[Edited 2006-05-22 03:20:51]
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 4):
What I'm assuming is that there were 20 passengers (one an infant in an adult's lap), plus the crew of 3.

Beech 1900's do not carry a Flight Attendent. It has a crew of 2, and 19 passengers.....and they called it a 'commuter jet'...!!

Just like the media to get it wrong again.

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 11:15 am


Image care of Sun Sentinel

Umm..quick question....Why is an airport spokes person SO STUPID! Maybe they should only take comments for airline spokes people!
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 11:49 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 7):
Umm..quick question....Why is an airport spokes person SO STUPID! Maybe they should only take comments for airline spokes people!

Steve Belleme, the airport spokesman quoted, is anything but stupid. He's a former Air Florida dispatcher (where I used to work with him), and was with Continental before that. I have no idea where the incorrect info came from, the airport or the airline, but the assumptive slam was something I had to comment on, knowing Steve.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 12:46 pm

It's Steve's job to make sure all this info is correct if he is going to go public, never trust a source. Surely a spokes person for Gulfstream International would know that there is no F/A onboard their 1900Ds.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 1:57 pm

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 9):
Surely a spokes person for Gulfstream International would know that there is no F/A onboard their 1900Ds.

Before I get flamed like crazy I will say that I am no expert on 1900D's or Gulfstream operations but I have seen two pilots and a woman that would appear to be a FA deplane several times and no she is not a nonrev since I have seen the same woman several times in one day clearing customs.

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 2:35 pm

Didn't this happen a couple of months ago too?
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 6:08 pm

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 11):
Didn't this happen a couple of months ago too?

In december, nose gear collapse.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 6:22 pm

There is no flight attendant on the B1900's. 19 seats in 1x1 configuration (9 rows) with a middle seat in the 9th row.

No jumpseat for a flight attendant. And the cabin is way too small to have one anyway. Just 2 pilots.

So, must have been a few lap children or something.....

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 8:20 pm

I was going to say-- this sounds familiar! I remember the incident in December. The plane was flying EYW to FLL- I saw the plane take off from EYW and later, coming home to our condo in Aventura, passed FLL and saw the plane towed off to the side.

Creepy how things work out sometime.

And just to back up what has already been said, the 1900 does not have any space/need for a flight attendant. What I really wish they'd put on those planes is a bathroom...

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Mon May 22, 2006 8:46 pm

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 14):
What I really wish they'd put on those planes is a bathroom...

There can be lavs installed on the beech 1900D but for normal airline ops it doesn't make sense as the 9B (middle seat on the last row bench) is removed and then the lav takes up 2/3 of the forward cargo bin.

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And yes, the beech 1900D requires nor has room for an F/A. Aircraft with seating under 20, the FAA does not require an F/A.

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 10):
I have seen two pilots and a woman that would appear to be a FA deplane several times

Was she maybe a dispatcher or someone from the flight training department do a ride along.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 12:08 am

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 15):
Was she maybe a dispatcher or someone from the flight training department do a ride along

Could be I will ask a few of my friends over at Gulfstream what the deal is. Maybe she came off one of the Brasilia's

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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 9:03 am

Gulfstream is the absolute scumbag of the industry. Hope they get shut down soon!
 
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 9:08 am

The actual ratio is 1 FA for 50 seats. However a/c 19 Seats and Under do not require one. In the US I have not seen a Lav on the Be-1900. That is what the barf bag is for.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night

Tue May 23, 2006 10:04 am

2 laps onboard no f/a.

hopefully the airport airline manager council get's it thru to FLL that any known in advance problem needs to divert to MIA with plenty of concrete not being used...similar to the DCA goes to IAD rule. Will kill Cooper at 3M but 4 hrs of the only real runway being blocked several times a year for one airline with repeat gear problems on the same aircraft type is unacceptable. The airport statement of only a few aircraft being delayed for just a few minutes is quite bogus and a coverup...some were delayed 3 hrs or more waiting to defuel....lot more went out fuel light and had to flagstop.
 
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting I LOVE EWR (Reply 17):
Gulfstream is the absolute scumbag of the industry. Hope they get shut down soon!

Ummm...there are worse.
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 1:15 pm

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 18):
In the US I have not seen a Lav on the Be-1900.

Thats because no current 121 US carrier operates the 1900D with less than all 19 seats.

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 19):
advance problem needs to divert to MIA with plenty of concrete not being used...similar to the DCA goes to IAD rule.

Eh, just send it back to the islands and let them deal with it.  Wink
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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 1:27 pm

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 11):
Didn't this happen a couple of months ago too?

yep. Nose gear that time


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RE: Incident @ FLL, Main Runway Closed (Sun. Night)

Tue May 23, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 20):

Yep there is always Mesa!

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