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FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:32 pm

Two articles in the Glasgow Herald today (22nd May) detail FlyGlobespan's fleet expansion plans including additional 767s and 737s as well as the addition of 757s to the fleet.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62465.html

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62446.html
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:41 pm

I wonder whether the 757s will be used on long haul routes (e.g. EDI to JFK) or whether they will be go on the Canary runs (e.g. GLA-TFS).

Sounds ambitious. Let's hope he can pull it off.
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:47 pm

Talk of codeshares, on-line check-in, select your seat on-line, select your meal on-line.....I wonder who the codeshare will be with. This airline are certainly one of the most ambitious around at the moment.

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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:50 pm

Do they not already have some sort of 'codeshare' agreement already with the likes of US Airways on PHL-GLA? Perhaps this could be extended to the likes of AA, CO and DL on their Scottish transatlantic services? Perhaps they could also do a deal with the Canadian carriers - Zoom and Air Transat?
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 2):

hmm...

Well, EDI-SFB is 'supposed' to be announced later this year for a start in 2007 Summer season. That would have to be a B767.

I am not too sure if EDI-JFK will ever be operated by GSM because i think they are a lot more related to the Charter market and isn't that the reason why the stopped their Domestic services?

Thanks
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EDIT: The have a codeshare with Air Transat on EDI-YYZ i think.

[Edited 2006-05-22 12:54:05]
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting Damian (Reply 3):
Do they not already have some sort of 'codeshare' agreement already with the likes of US Airways on PHL-GLA?

No.

Gaz
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:56 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 5):
No.

I stand corrected. Must have picked up the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 4):
Well, EDI-SFB is 'supposed' to be announced later this year for a start in 2007 Summer season. That would have to be a B767.

I'm not sure they'll go for SFB from EDI. I think using the 757 to destinations like NYC and BOS is more likely. Perhaps they might look to replace Air Transat on EDI-YYZ too?
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
I stand corrected. Must have picked up the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

I think the story was that US offered GSM as a possible airline for pax to fly AMS-GLA-PHL or STN-GLA-PHL. But they also offered plenty of other airlines as alternatives and for some reason people thought this was a codeshare.

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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:02 pm

I expect FlyGlobespan to order 787s at some stage. They have been very keen on the 787 for a while now.
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:04 pm

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
I'm not sure they'll go for SFB from EDI. I think using the 757 to destinations like NYC and BOS is more likely.

Well, AA have been looking around EDI and apparently 'looked' interested. So, if AA were ever to fly into EDI i think the would come at us from BOS.

I am not too sure if operations such as New York etc. are in FlyGlobespan's business plan but i doubt they offer the service such as AA, CO or DL.

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
Perhaps they might look to replace Air Transat on EDI-YYZ too?

Possible, but like i said above ^

Thanks
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:07 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
I am not too sure if operations such as New York etc. are in FlyGlobespan's business plan but i doubt they offer the service such as AA, CO or DL.

GSM would not be looking at the same market as these airlines. CO fly to EWR due to their hub, offering pax connecting flights to the rest of the US.

GSM would be strictly dependant on O&D pax, unless ofcourse the mystery codehsare partner is an airline with a NYC hub  Smile

Personally I would like to see Zoom as a codeshare partner.

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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:09 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 10):
Personally I would like to see Zoom as a codeshare partner.

Yes, they would actually suit each other but that won't happen until they drop Air Transat.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm

Quoting Dalecary (Reply 8):
I expect FlyGlobespan to order 787s at some stage.

Yes, this article (an interview with Globespan's Tom Dalrymple from August last year) seems to confirm his airline's interest:
http://www.sundayherald.com/print51104
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 8:36 pm

i think GSMS plans are too ambitious where does the buck stop . GLA-SFB tio me personlly is a charter route and theyve pulled their domestic routes which was silly 1x stn-gla a week ! altough its good to see growth out of scottish airports its just a different kind
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Mon May 22, 2006 9:26 pm

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 10):
GSM would not be looking at the same market as these airlines. CO fly to EWR due to their hub, offering pax connecting flights to the rest of the US.

GSM would be strictly dependant on O&D pax, unless ofcourse the mystery codehsare partner is an airline with a NYC hub Smile

The O&D demand to NYC is huge, I have seen it quoted on these boards that 50% of passengers on EDI-EWR are O&D, thats a pretty huge market. GSM could easily launch a 2x weekly NYC flight and make a killing on short breaks.
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 1:15 am

If GSM could offer a complete no frills service to NYC possibly with return fares from around the £150 mark they would make a killing on short especially weekend breaks. A route to SFO would have to be at a fairly high frequency as this is a mainly business roure due to nearby Silicon Valley. The 757s could be used for a mix of short transatlantic (e.g JFK, BOS or YYZ) and Canary Islands routes allowing the 737s to move to shorter sunshine and possibly a few city routes.
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 2:44 am

I certainly dont want GSM doing what they did on the GLA-PRG route- throwing off established carriers eg OK only to then reduce frequency from a one time 2 flights every day to just twice a week. This could seriously push CO off any NYC route.
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 3:42 am

I agree totally BY738.

GSM could do more harm than good.


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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 3:54 am

I don't actually agree with this. CO has a large percentage of connecting pax originating in the likes of EDI and GLA, transitting through EWR. GSM would'nt be able to offer a single connecting flight from EWR onwards. Don't forget CO has a good brand awareness in the regions, is a member of Skyteam, therefore offering FF benfits, and also has an excellent Business class product.

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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 5:01 am

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 18):
also has an excellent Business class product.

And so might GSM
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 7):
I think the story was that US offered GSM as a possible airline for pax to fly AMS-GLA-PHL or STN-GLA-PHL. But they also offered plenty of other airlines as alternatives and for some reason people thought this was a codeshare.

Its just an interline agreement isn't it?

Quoting BY738 (Reply 16):
I certainly dont want GSM doing what they did on the GLA-PRG route- throwing off established carriers eg OK only to then reduce frequency from a one time 2 flights every day to just twice a week. This could seriously push CO off any NYC route.

I think GLA means a lot more to CO than OK.

GLA-EWR is a very long established route with I guess good cargo loads and good yields. Theres also pretty much unrivaled connecting oppurtunities available at EWR, which GSM could never beat.

OK's GLA-PRG service was just to compete with GSM. I can guess the yields must have been horrendous.
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 1:33 pm

I flew them EDI-ALC-EDI in September and both flights were excellent. I am booked in their "premier" economy GLA-SFB in September, which at £421 r/trip was the lowest available of all carriers that I checked. In fact, the lowest on CO was around £800 in regular Y.

Anyone know how the SFB route is doing?
 
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RE: FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald

Tue May 23, 2006 11:08 pm

People,

FlyGlobespan is now working very hard to become established as Scotlands National Airline.
Our Short-Haul product is based on the lowcost idea, but with amenities like internet check-in, assigned seating and major airports.
This is exactly the same as done by EI, IB,AU,...
Our Long-haul product will be 3 class with really excellent service in the 2 upper classes.
Shiek!