LawnDart
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Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 12:29 am

Canjet and Harmony Airlines have announced a marketing partnership to transfer passengers between each others' systems at Toronto. Sounds interesting, but are they really the same? Have heard good things about Harmony, haven't heard much about Canjet.

Do you think this alliance will benefit either carrier? Could an alliance like this benefit LCCs in the United States or Europe?
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 1:54 am

Interesting. We are basically combining the two weakest airlines that concentrate on domestic travel (excluding some flights operated by Sunwing and Skyservice domestically). There are consistent rumours both airlines not doing very well, so we'll see what this means in the long-run.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting LawnDart (Thread starter):
Have heard good things about Harmony, haven't heard much about Canjet.

I'm a fan of Canjet - fly'em all the time.
Basic service, but inexpensive, comfortable enough, reliable and very freindly.

As for a deal with Harmony, I can see how this could work out, given that Canjet is great for eastern Canada, whereas Harmony seems to do mostly YVR....

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 1):
are consistent rumours both airlines not doing very well, so we'll see what this means in the long-run.

truly? I haven't heard that before...
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 2):
truly? I haven't heard that before...

I haven't heard that either!

I, too, am a CanJet fan. I fly them reguarly. Their fares are usually the best around (most often better than WestJet on similar routes). They are also doing more and more charter flying out of Atlantic Canada on behalf of tour operators Transat Holidays and Sunquest. I also have to add that their "new" 737-300s are more confortable than their 737-200s. The leather seats add a lot.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 4:54 am

thats great news!! both CanJet and Harmony are great Canadian airlines. I think YYZ would be a perfect ( and costly) hub where CanJet pax from the east and the US could transfer on to westbound HMY flights. If this deal is successful I bet we can see some additions to HMYs fleet, perhaps some more used B757s or even a B787 order.


PS. for some reason I remember a Canjet flight that flew to Halifax with at FL100 with no pressurization, am I correct or was it a different airline?

KrisYYZ
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 6:15 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 4):
PS. for some reason I remember a Canjet flight that flew to Halifax with at FL100 with no pressurization, am I correct or was it a different airline?

Yeah I remember that too, I think it was a 732 coming from YYZ but I may be mistaken.

Also does anyone have the link to anything confirming this news between Harmony and Canjet?

-Johnathan
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 2):
truly? I haven't heard that before...

Just rumours of course, can't substantiate  Wink

I've heard mostly good about Canjet, mostly about their very friendly staff. I've only flown on the former Canjet, after the C3 merger though, so I can't comment on their current service levels.

I hope this works out well for both airlines though.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 7:04 am

Both are good airlines, but with only two YVR-YYZ flights per day, marketing and interline opportunities are limited.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 7:13 am

Harmony has really nice service by the way. Despite their lack of frequencies as pointed out, they're definitely worth trying.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 6):
I've heard mostly good about Canjet, mostly about their very friendly staff. I've only flown on the former Canjet, after the C3 merger though, so I can't comment on their current service levels.

The pre C3 Canjet is the Canjet that is running now, same owner and alot of the same employees.

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 6):
Also does anyone have the link to anything confirming this news between Harmony and Canjet?

http://www.canjet.com/en_view_press_release.aspx?NewsID=140
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 11:33 pm

A bit of an odd pairing that's for sure, but hey if it feeds passengers into each other's routes then it's got to be good for both Harmony and Canjet.

I'm a little skeptical of the schedule though. If you look at it, the frequencies aren't necessarily 7 days a week on all the routes and some of the connections are very long at T3. They would have to be pretty loyal Harmony/Canjet customers to NOT just book on WJ or AC.

http://harmonyairways.com/travel_information/flights_canjet.shtml
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Wed May 24, 2006 11:44 pm

Quoting Matt (Reply 3):
737-300s

Very picky, I think they're -500s.

Canjet consistently beats WestJet's prices on the east coast, say between YHZ and YYZ, often by very substantial margins by my experiences. I can imagine that the two airlines will be able to offer very competitive prices to AC and WJ for coast to coast trips. It would be nice to see some expanded fleets on both sides and this just might help things out a bit.

In the end, Canjet and Harmony aren't really offering much competition to Westjet, who serves all the rest of the airports in between YVR and YYZ, not to mention the southwest USA. I think this is great news.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 11:23 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 11):
Very picky, I think they're -500s

Indeed - they do have 1 -300 though (C-FHGE), with rumours of one or two more to come.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 12:17 pm

Any rumors of growth plans for Canjet? Specifically - flights to Florida. I live right next to PIE (St. Pete/Clearwater) and would love to have a direct flight to YOW. I have family just over the border in Massena, NY and YOW is the closest larger airport. Currently Canjet only has seasonal service out of PIE to Toronto.

About 40 minutes south is SRQ (Sarasota). Canjet DOES have a nonstop to Ottawa - but again, only seasonal and only once/week.

I'd love to give them a try but the frequency doesn't work for me (same with Westjet - only once/week from TPA to Toronto). Not to mention the fares on Air Canada are ridiculous.

[Edited 2006-05-25 05:19:12]
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 12:33 pm

Quoting Tribird1011 (Reply 12):

Thanks, I had no idea!

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 13):

I can partially relate. I live in London, Ontario and my hometown is Halifax, Nova Scotia. Westjet flies into London, but they only go west, not east. Sunwing is just starting direct service, which I hope to take advantage of at some point, and AC is horribly priced. You pay an extra $200 over Sunwing (or any flight out of YYZ two hours by car away, 40 minute flight) and you fly a DHC8 to YYZ or YOW first. I'd rather use AC because of the great frequency they have, but it's just not worth the money to me. I don't imagine Sunwing will keep up this service (YHZ-YXU-YVR) when the summer is out, so it would be nice for Canjet to fly to YXU from YHZ come winter time.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 12:59 pm

Well, I wish both airlines the best of luck... it is especially important for Canjet to try and get some kind of market share in the west, since they have been pretty lacklustre performers out here thus far.

In all honesty, I have looked to book airfare several times to YYZ where Canjet is only moderately cheaper.. and who wants to be cramped on a 735 with no comforts when WJ/AC offer a far more attractive package for a little more money...?

This is also the second time Canjet is going to attempt to make the YVR run profitable... let's hope it pans out!
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 1:11 pm

Quoting A332 (Reply 15):

I took a flight on Royal/C3000 just as the merger was taking place with Canjet too. Flew a Canjet 732 from YHZ to YYZ and a Royal 757 from YYZ to YVR. It was very nice, great price, free drinks and a meal on the 757, times worked out quite well. I would be more than willing to give the same service a try the second time around, as I hear Harmony tries to treat their customers a touch nicer than AC (meals on their YVR service, it's something).
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 3:11 pm

Quoting A332 (Reply 15):
This is also the second time Canjet is going to attempt to make the YVR run profitable

Canjet did try the run toward the end of last year but it was "seasonal". From my understanding the loads were not the problem but lack of air craft that caused Canjet to rethink about the route.

Quoting Tribird1011 (Reply 12):

Indeed - they do have 1 -300 though (C-FHGE), with rumours of one or two more to come.

Heard that rumour myself but they're having trouble finding used 737-300's and 500's.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 5:00 pm

Quoting Tennisace (Reply 10):

I'm a little skeptical of the schedule though. If you look at it, the frequencies aren't necessarily 7 days a week on all the routes and some of the connections are very long at T3. They would have to be pretty loyal Harmony/Canjet customers to NOT just book on WJ or AC.

I have to agree with ya there as looking at the schedules this agreement between HQ/C6 doesnt leave very much room unless either of them skew their schedules to allow for more connecting opportunities.

ie
From YVR-YYZ-Atlantic Canada only offers a handful of connecting opportunities: I'm being pretty generous with the connecting times as well.

YVR-YYZ

09 May 06-30 Apr 07 1234567 HQ228 1430-2200
06 Jun 06-27 Oct 06 123.5.. HQ212 0800-1530
28 Jun 06-30 Apr 07 12345.6 HQ216 2345-0715

Connecting to:
YYZ-YYT
1234567 C6188 1945-0015

YYZ-YHZ-NFLD
12345.7 C6160 1810-2115
.....6. C6160 1830-2135

YYZ-YQM
1234567 C6550 0915-1215


---------------------------------
Even worse going westwards where it seems only the YHZ-YVR has "decent" connecting times.

NFLD-YHZ-YYZ
12345.7 C6135 1230-1355
1234567 C6161 1810-1935


YYZ-YVR
09 May 06-30 Apr 07 1234567 HQ213 0825-1030
06 Jun 06-27 Oct 06 123.5.. HQ219 1625-1835
28 Jun 06-30 Apr 07 12345.7 HQ217 2300-0105+1


But I have a feeling one of the two will either skew times to be more passenger connecting friendly. Though I think they should wait until their interline baggage agreements kicks in... as from the C6 Website under the Harmony Q&A Page (http://www.canjet.com/en_faqs.aspx?ID=12) Question 13 states:

13. Do passengers have to pick up their luggage in Toronto and check into the connecting flight?

CanJet and Harmony are currently working out the details for interline baggage. Further information will be posted when it becomes available.


Good luck Canjet and Harmony!

J.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 5:57 pm

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 18):
But I have a feeling one of the two will either skew times to be more passenger connecting friendly.


http://harmonyairways.com/travel_information/flights_canjet.shtml

"Sample schedule based on July 3 departure dates, please call to confirm flight schedules at time of booking."

According to the Harmony website, so I think you'll find this WILL change before the agreement kicks in next week.

[Edited 2006-05-25 11:01:20]
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Thu May 25, 2006 6:16 pm

Quoting LawnDart (Thread starter):

Harmony and Canjet seems like a strange partnership.

From my experiences, Harmony offers a fairly decent full service economy class, superior to Air Canada domestic service. Canjet is fairly basic service, but decent.

Harmony has many YVR routes, so perhaps Canjet can give them greater eastern access.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting Aeroplan73 (Reply 20):
Harmony has many YVR routes, so perhaps Canjet can give them greater eastern access.

This seems to be the biggest/only-good reason for Harmony to sign on  Wink

Didn't Canjet also go to Winnipeg? Their current map at www.canjet.com doesn't show it anymore. Also, their map is colored rather oddly. It looks at first glance that the blue indicates where they fly to. But the only province out west they serve (aside from Hamony codesharing) is Alberta at the moment... so are they just coloring all of Canada just for the hell of it?

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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 12:58 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 21):
Didn't Canjet also go to Winnipeg?

Kind of in February 2005 but they only connected Winnipeg to Florida and only as a seasonal route, they didn't connect it to their Canadian route network.

http://www.canjet.com/en_view_press_release.aspx?NewsID=76

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 21):
so are they just coloring all of Canada just for the hell of it?

Yes, yes they are.....

And more news from Canjet:

CanJet and Government of Canada Sign Air Travel Agreement

CanJet Airlines is pleased to announce it has entered into an agreement with the Government of Canada which will result in substantial air travel savings for the federal government and increased business for CanJet.

Julie. N. Gossen, CanJet Airlines Executive Vice-President and Chief Operating Officer, said, “Our airline is thrilled to enter into this agreement and we look forward to meeting the air travel requirements of personnel employed by the Government of Canada.”

http://www.canjet.com/en_view_press_release.aspx?NewsID=141
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 5:03 am

Glad to see Canjet solidifying its position in the marketplace.

I take a different view on the whole topic. While CanJet and Harmony seem to currently be positioning themselves as an East-West connector. In the future (way far down in the future), I see Harmony focusing on internationals and long-hauls with CanJet operating the domestic services. So what we would have is CanJet feeding Harmony flights out of YVR, YYZ and maybe even YYC. We already know that Harmony is looking at Asia.

Quoting Aeroplan73 (Reply 20):
From my experiences, Harmony offers a fairly decent full service economy class, superior to Air Canada domestic service. Canjet is fairly basic service, but decent.

Much like the AC Jazz & AC relationship, services between connecting airlines do not have to be consistent although it is better for the consumer and helps airlines to build brand loyalty. What CanJet and Harmony are both missing are a frequent flyer program.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 5:48 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 21):
Didn't Canjet also go to Winnipeg? Their current map at www.canjet.com doesn't show it anymore. Also, their map is colored rather oddly. It looks at first glance that the blue indicates where they fly to. But the only province out west they serve (aside from Hamony codesharing) is Alberta at the moment... so are they just coloring all of Canada just for the hell of it?

CanJet flew a service from YWG I believe to MCO or SRQ, I forgot which one it was but I know it was some FL destination. Anyone care to shed light?
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 5:53 am

Dforce, if indeed you are correct, what do you think the odds are of an eventual merger between the two?
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 24):
CanJet flew a service from YWG I believe to MCO or SRQ, I forgot which one it was but I know it was some FL destination. Anyone care to shed light?

Just incase you missed it two posts above yours
http://www.canjet.com/en_view_press_release.aspx?NewsID=76
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Fri May 26, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 16):
as I hear Harmony tries to treat their customers a touch nicer than AC (meals on their YVR service, it's something).

In fact, Harmony have excellent on-board service. If schedules are fares are acceptable, I highly recommend them. I only flew them once, and they kind of reminded me of an airline from the past, with old-style interior (no PTV's or leather), but good overall comfort, choice of meals, and very attentive crew.
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Sat May 27, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting Jayce (Reply 25):
Dforce, if indeed you are correct, what do you think the odds are of an eventual merger between the two?

I think it is extremely difficult to predict a merger at this point as it is so far fetched. Without truly knowing the financial situation of either airline or what Canada's aviation industry will look like 10 years down the road (i.e: can we support 3 national domestic airlines/2 flag carriers?), a merger is extremely hard to predict. With that said, CanJet management has always seemed to be open minded. After all, they did allow Canada 3000 to take them over but I believe that was for economic reasons.

Personally, I don't think a full merger would make sense. For one, CanJet and Harmony are two completely different business models. If we merged both under one brand, we'd have a brand identity crisis. Harmony's full service and frills could never be sustained by CanJet's low fares. (Although it would be nice to see Ward Air come back  Smile They would have to maintain two completely distinct brands and operate in a way that Air Canada & Zip operated as two seperate airlines under one corporate umbrella. I could see a full strategic alliance formed but I highly doubt a brand merger. We could come to know CanJet as a 'Harmony Connector.' Presently, Harmony is contracting a company to operate a CRJ100 on its YVR-YYC feeder run - this would be an ideal way for CanJet to make a splash in the West. Harmony is certainly not interested in acquiring regional jets to operate its domestic flights. Right now - they are focused on the international market and acquiring a wide body.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Sat May 27, 2006 8:57 am

HQ is doing very well with its partnership with China Eastern. The YVR-YYZ route is for the most part transfer pax of China Eastern. HQ have long been talking about aquiring a 763 to do YVR-China, but we all know how difficult 763s are to come by these days, and the route just hasnt seemed to get off the ground. Harmony One, there business class is a very nice product. There aircrafts are clean, friendly crew and ground staff. I see them growing slowly, and not making the same mistakes of some former Canadian carriers, may they all rest in peace.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Sat May 27, 2006 10:21 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 4):
PS. for some reason I remember a Canjet flight that flew to Halifax with at FL100 with no pressurization, am I correct or was it a different airline?

That was a -200 doing a YYZ-YHZ run. That flight was a PR nightmare for CanJet. It was perfectly safe to operate the aircraft unpressurized at FL100. The thing that caused the disaster was the fact that YHZ was fogged-in so the plane had to divert to YQM where people had to fend for themselves as there weren't any C6 staff on duty at YQM at that time of night. You know how the media tends to exaggerate pax stories, so the press had a field day with this one.

Quoting Tennisace (Reply 10):
I'm a little skeptical of the schedule though. If you look at it, the frequencies aren't necessarily 7 days a week on all the routes and some of the connections are very long at T3. They would have to be pretty loyal Harmony/Canjet customers to NOT just book on WJ or AC.

You've gotta think one or the other will tweak their skeds to provide seamless connections and interlining baggage. Being able to purchase a YHZ-YYZ-YVR ticket on C6 or Harmony would definitely go a long way to help.

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 13):
Any rumors of growth plans for Canjet? Specifically - flights to Florida. I live right next to PIE (St. Pete/Clearwater) and would love to have a direct flight to YOW.

I would love to see that too. With at least 1 extra aircraft this winter and no longer a need to send an aircraft out to YYC, there should be some room for new routes and frequencies to Florida.

Quoting A332 (Reply 15):
This is also the second time Canjet is going to attempt to make the YVR run profitable... let's hope it pans out!

This time around there is zero risk to them. It'll be a good way to make a few extra bucks.

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 21):
Didn't Canjet also go to Winnipeg?

Did YWG-MCO on Wednesdays two winters ago. I don't think the loads were very good.

Quoting DFORCE1 (Reply 23):
What CanJet and Harmony are both missing are a frequent flyer program.

CanJet has a FF program called Smart Rewards. Fly 6 one-way segments in a year and automatically receive a free one-way segment on any route they fly.

Quoting DFORCE1 (Reply 28):
Harmony is contracting a company to operate a CRJ100 on its YVR-YYC feeder run

I've heard that Voyageur Airways are doing this flying for them. Harmony quickly found out 3 daily 757s on YYC-YVR was just wayyyyyyy too big.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Sun May 28, 2006 3:01 pm

They (HQ) seem like a nice Canadian niche carrier, maybe my favorite one. I hope they grow strong and make alot of money  wink 

Quoting YOW (Reply 30):
I've heard that Voyageur Airways are doing this flying for them. Harmony quickly found out 3 daily 757s on YYC-YVR was just wayyyyyyy too big.

I wasnt aware Voyageur had any CRJ's

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 8):
Harmony has really nice service by the way

Their J class product looks like it's worth trying (52 inch pitch)

http://harmonyairways.com/
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Mon May 29, 2006 1:24 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 31):
I wasnt aware Voyageur had any CRJ's

Until this agreement happened, they didn't. Voyageur are more known for their Dash 7s.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Mon May 29, 2006 10:46 am

I think that they should try to attract business people trying to get the hop between YYZ and YUL!!

then i would be on it 100% Very competitive pricings with that airline!

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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Mon May 29, 2006 5:29 pm

Quoting LawnDart (Thread starter):
What CanJet and Harmony are both missing are a frequent flyer program.

Yes, I think that is something they should both consider.

Not that I am a fan of Aeroplan or anything mind you.  Wink
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Tue May 30, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting DFORCE1 (Reply 23):
CanJet and Harmony are both missing are a frequent flyer program.



Quoting Aeroplan73 (Reply 34):
Yes, I think that is something they should both consider.

Not that I am a fan of Aeroplan or anything mind you

Can't speak for Harmony, but Canjet does have a very good reward program: 6 one-way flights and the 7th is free.

And much less stupid red tape than other Canadian reward programs (no names so as not to offend any recent posters...). While it doesn't offer the possibility of upgrade with no exec. (maybe they should offer upgrades to jumpseat??) it is simple and effective IMHO.

Glad to hear all the good stuff about Harmony.. will have to try them.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Tue May 30, 2006 4:52 am

Well there goes my theory about CanJet being the regional feeder into Harmony.....

Looks like Collins has announced that they are looking at regional jets although personally I think they should launch their Asia flights and get some wide bodies in first before they worry about regionals.
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I don't understand Harmony's agreement with China Eastern and Japan Airlines? Are both Asian airlines selling tickets on Harmony's flights or is Harmony actually selling tickets on behalf of the Asian carriers on their flights to Asia? As far as I see on the Harmony website, you can't book to Asia. Although, the National post article implies otherwise.
 
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RE: Canjet & Harmony Partner

Tue May 30, 2006 7:45 am

Some armchair CEO-ing given Air Canada uncertainty on YYT-LHR.:
Harmony 757 LHR-YYT-YYC-YYT-LHR.
Canjet feeding Eastbound at YYT, collecting Westbound.
YYT-Alberta traffic feeding self and adding to LHR-YYC.

The feeding seems more do-able somehow than just Westjet alone....which is the usual alternative given for the AC service.
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