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Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:24 am

Here is the link.

http://www.fox13.com/

Also cnn.com has a short video as well.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:27 am

This has happened before. Not unusual to not notice someone dying on a plane, we all like to have our privacy. I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:30 am

This was an elderly person (78 years old) who died. I guess adjacent passangers didn't notice her and just left her alone. At least she probably died in a peaceful way, but still it is sad to hear  tombstone 
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:32 am

I remeber an Intl arrival in ORD in which the man died in the LAV of a 772, the aircraft actualy made it to the terminal for the departure before someone found him... there was hell to pay for that one...
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:35 am

It can easily happen. If there is no pain or obvious injury or discomfort -- add to that the darkness of a late flight -- it'd be easy not to notice anything amiss.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:35 am

This happens almost every couple of years and it goes unnoticed by the media. Ask any veteran FLL gate agent. They all have stories about these elderly passengers in and out of South Florida. Most times they are just covered with a blanket to show some respect and the family is paged in the meeting area.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:36 am

Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:40 am

Alot of times what happens is near the end these folks "take a turn for the worse" and the family needs to arrange some other type of living arraingment.

They do this one last trip, usually with a family member to avoid a lengthy car trip.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:41 am

Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes (sic) Unoticed!

You make it sound like this never happens. Unfortunately, it's fairly commonplace - and certainly not unique to DL.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:42 am

Years ago a passenger died in the aft lavatory of an intl inbound to the US and everyone got of including the FA's only to have cabin service find the body sitting on the toilet. Not urban legend.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:51 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
You make it sound like this never happens. Unfortunately, it's fairly commonplace - and certainly not unique to DL.

I just repeated the title from CNN, albeit with a spelling error, so your observation is with CNN, so you might want to unbunch your panties and take it up with them!
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 2:51 am

I believe some airlines actually have a kind of 'coffin' on board where they can store a body if the unfortunate happens. It is a good idea, rather than having it just 'there'.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 3:02 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

Chances are you would never know that someone did and the seat cushion might have been changed out if there was a spill/stain on it.

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 3):
I remeber an Intl arrival in ORD in which the man died in the LAV of a 772, the aircraft actualy made it to the terminal for the departure before someone found him... there was hell to pay for that one...

I am sure.

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 9):
Years ago a passenger died in the aft lavatory of an intl inbound to the US and everyone got of including the FA's only to have cabin service find the body sitting on the toilet. Not urban legend.

No urban legend, although I believe it was a US domestic flight.

With regards to the thread title, death happens, albeit rarely, onboard aircraft The fact that news or press needs to get involved eludes me. I do not mean to sound harsh, but I didn't realize that it was newsworthy. If every death was newsworthy, there would be a lot more news on and more news to print.

My condolences to the family.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 3:46 am

Quoting Wannabe (Reply 6):
Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice.

I see you are familiar with the average level of service provided by DL flight attendants.
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Wed May 24, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting Wannabe (Reply 6):
Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice

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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 4:06 am

My ex used to be a ticket/gate agent for DL and said that passengers never die on the plane. They always die in the jetway. Think it had to do with possibly impounding the plane as a crime scene.
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Wed May 24, 2006 4:15 am

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My ex used to be a ticket/gate agent for DL and said that passengers never die on the plane. They always die in the jetway. Think it had to do with possibly impounding the plane as a crime scene.

This is true. Noone onboard an aircraft can pronounce a customer dead inflight. Not even a MD or paramedic. Certainly not a F/A. When the flight lands and arrives at a gate, the appropriate medical personnel that meets the flight performs that function.

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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 4:16 am

I'm sure people pass away very frequently on public transportation such as busses/subways, yet you never hear about it. Theres no difference. At least it was a peaceful passing.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 3):
I remeber an Intl arrival in ORD in which the man died in the LAV of a 772, the aircraft actualy made it to the terminal for the departure before someone found him... there was hell to pay for that one...

I can remember my old cleaning supervisor found a dead body under some blankets on the back row on a PK 747 he got such a fright the poor fellow died during the flight and they put him on the back seats and covered him in blankets out of respect
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting American762 (Reply 17):
I'm sure people pass away very frequently on public transportation such as busses/subways, yet you never hear about it. Theres no difference. At least it was a peaceful passing.

That reminds me of the movie "Collateral."

Interesting situation. I've heard of this happening before. An unfortunate but very peaceful way to die.

My condolences to the family.

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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:25 am

Just hope the lady R.I.P. we all have to die sometime. This thread needs to be removed in respect of the deceased.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!



Opposed to sitting in a seat that someone has passed gas, not bathed or even wiped their nose on, COME ON!!!!!! And there is no possible way you would know if it were a seat that someoned died in unless they put a sign on the seat that says someone died here. News flash all airplanes are filled with millions of germs!!!!
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:30 am

Lets just hope that the poor old lady did not die of hunger awaiting the inflight meal that never came.

That was tastless, sorry.
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 5:35 am

Im curious about what kind of "fuel emergency" led them to divert to DFW for a flight to SLC.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:35 am

Quoting American762 (Reply 17):
I'm sure people pass away very frequently on public transportation such as busses/subways, yet you never hear about it. Theres no difference. At least it was a peaceful passing.

LOL, I wasin NYClast year on the subway when medics came on and took this guy off from a few seats down from me.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:42 am

Sometimes the passenger is dead when boarded:

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788998/17646274.html

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Walsh's son told investigators he was "pretty much convinced he died in the airport terminal in Phoenix." The plane left the runway at 11:21 a.m.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 5:43 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 22):
That was tastless, sorry.

The meal or the remark ?  Smile

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Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

Er what do you think happens to you when you die? Its not like a body would even have time to go cold on your average flight, I don't know why people stress so much about these things.


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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
This has happened before. Not unusual to not notice someone dying on a plane, we all like to have our privacy. I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

My guess is that this happens more than most people might think. Ok, the chances of sitting on that very seat are somewhat slim but most of us regular travelers have probably been on a plane where somebody died once (or was carrying a body in the cargo hold).

Creepy, yes. But it happens.
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:28 am

I remember an AF 777 landed in ATL once with a DOA. Apparently, the guy died sometime inflight and although I do not know if the flight crew was aware or not, the plane continued to ATL. Everyone deplaned out the jetway while this old guy and his wife accompanying him exited out the rear galley door via a catering truck to the ambulance below. I assume he was already dead, as there did not seem to be much of a rush to get underway.

Passengers die every year and usually die in their sleep, as compared to having a flailing heart attack in the aisle and have no one notice. It does remind me of the BA crew that found someone dead and stuffed them into the lav, then marked it INOPERATIVE. Kinda funny.

My brother once worked for ACA when they flew the Jetstreams and told me a rumor that if someone dies and is going to be flown to burial, since the Jetstream can't hold a coffin in the cargo bin, the person is placed in a body bag and seated in the last row of the plane, blocked off and covered with blankets. Now, I found that VERY hard to believe, but it does make some sense, as how else are you going to fly a body that can't fit in the cargo bin with a casket? Airlines always find a way to not have to say no to money. LOL



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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting Wannabe (Reply 6):
Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice.



Quoting Pope (Reply 13):
I see you are familiar with the average level of service provided by DL flight attendants



Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 22):
Lets just hope that the poor old lady did not die of hunger awaiting the inflight meal that never came.

.....

Reminds me of my last flight ANC-SLC......!!!!!! you can only laugh about DL's service level these days....
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:43 am

I work in air traffic controll and I had two real severe medical emergencies. One good, one bad. In the good one the aircraft was close to the arrival airport and got all directs he needed to make it. The first one was worse. A flight was going to London and was just over Berlin when he wanted to deviate to Frankfurt because if a medical reason. So we sent him direct to Frankfurt. After about seven minutes then the pilot said that there was no more need for him to go to Frankfurt and that he wanted to continue to London instead. Sad but true. Wouldn`t want to trade with the pilot, but there really was no more need for him to go to Frankfurt.  tombstone 

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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting Wannabe (Reply 6):
Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice.

Afterwards they are promoted to become TSA staff.

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 11):
I believe some airlines actually have a kind of 'coffin' on board where they can store a body if the unfortunate happens. It is a good idea, rather than having it just 'there'.

A340-500 has an inflight mortuary. SQ has this facility on it's JFK-SIN flights.

I suspect Ryanair would charge this as a "private cabin"
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:58 am

Quote:
James Mark Walsh, 80, of Des Moines was on an America West Express direct flight from Phoenix to Des Moines.



Quote:
Walsh and his family were on a Boeing 737 with about 100 passengers on board, Nowack said.

This America West Express route only uses CRJ-200s with 50 pax. Perhaps in March it used a bigger CRJ-900, but this isn't a mainline route. Yet the airline spokesperson (Nowack) apparently told the reporter the flight was on a Boeing 737. Good one.
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Wed May 24, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting EWWForEver (Reply 15):
My ex used to be a ticket/gate agent for DL and said that passengers never die on the plane. They always die in the jetway. Think it had to do with possibly impounding the plane as a crime scene.

Very true. An AA F/A friend of mine said a women had died on a JFK-PAP flight, she noticed she was already gone on the pre-departure seat belt check. She covered her with a blanket, the other passengers didn't know, they thought she was sleeping. They removed her and pronounced her dead at the gate so the plane wouldn't be impounded for at least 24 hours... it was a turnaround JFK-PAP-JFK, naturally... it's not uncommon at all.

Very often elderly people know they are dying and try to make it to the place they wish to die in... that's why it's so common... and they aren't telling anyone what they know or they won't be boarded!
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 7:54 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 11):

I believe some airlines actually have a kind of 'coffin' on board where they can store a body if the unfortunate happens. It is a good idea, rather than having it just 'there'.



Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 31):

A340-500 has an inflight mortuary. SQ has this facility on it's JFK-SIN flights.

I've seen a picture of it but I can't remember if it was from this site or another one (it was a database picture). I can't find it anymore.
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 8:12 am

Quoting Lono (Reply 29):
Reminds me of my last flight ANC-SLC......!!!!!! you can only laugh about DL's service level these days....

Something that is industry standard is that funny to you? Man you must wet yourself at a comedy club...
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Wed May 24, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting American762 (Reply 17):
I'm sure people pass away very frequently on public transportation such as busses/subways, yet you never hear about it.

It happens a couple of times a year on the NYC Subway especially during the Winter. During the Winter the Homeless will sleep on long subway lines, constantly riding back and forth all night to keep warm.

I read where CO Micronesia faces inflight deaths on occasion because of the fact that sick individuals who need a certain level of emergency treatment they can't get on these small Atolls CO flies to in the Pacific are put on CO flights by local Doctors to get them to Guam or Honolulu for Medical treatment.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 8:23 am

When I die, I wanna die in the air.

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Wed May 24, 2006 8:52 am

Quoting Ardian (Reply 34):
I've seen a picture of it but I can't remember if it was from this site or another one (it was a database picture). I can't find it anymore.

I can't believe that people STILL believe that photo.......That compartment was WAY too small for a body.
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Wed May 24, 2006 8:54 am

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 23):
Im curious about what kind of "fuel emergency" led them to divert to DFW for a flight to SLC.

The fuel emergency was not a fuel emergency at all...DL503 /21MAY
from FLL-SLC had to have fuel removed from the A/C so they could takeoff
from the short runway at FLL..This was due to a gear collapse on a CO Xprs
B1900. Since they removed over 7000 lbs of fuel,they had to make a fuel stop
in DFW.

Back in 1990 (or so) AA flt 223 from RDU-MLB-DAB-RDU had a pax expire in 1st class on the way to MLB. Unfortunately....somebody declared him deceased while still airborne so the FBI was called in.They questioned all the other 141 pax onboard (crew too) over 2 hrs before releasing the A/C
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:14 am

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 31):
I suspect Ryanair would charge this as a "private cabin"

Don't give them any ideas!
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 39):
The fuel emergency was not a fuel emergency at all...DL503 /21MAY
from FLL-SLC had to have fuel removed from the A/C so they could takeoff
from the short runway at FLL..This was due to a gear collapse on a CO Xprs
B1900. Since they removed over 7000 lbs of fuel,they had to make a fuel stop
in DFW.

I suspected it was a scheduled fuel stop. You know how the media gets carried away.
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Wed May 24, 2006 1:08 pm

my first year at NW someone died inflight on my plane and I didn't find out about it till 2 hrs after the flight was done. Not uncommon
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Wed May 24, 2006 3:03 pm

At YX in 2002 a late night flight arrived from LAS with a dead passenger on board. The man was a terminal cancer patient and he was making one last trip with his son. They had a great vacation and on the way home, he was feeling tired and went to sleep. He couldn't be woken up when it came time for landing. It was discovered he died in his sleep.
 
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 4:31 pm

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 26):
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

Er what do you think happens to you when you die? Its not like a body would even have time to go cold on your average flight, I don't know why people stress so much about these things.

Er, you pee and poop your pants. You obviously haven't watched many people die and lose control of "normal functions".

Now do you really want that seat?

Going cold isn't the issue.

That brings up an interesting question, though. What happens when someone who is incontinent has an "accident" in their seat?

I guess it Depends.
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Wed May 24, 2006 4:48 pm

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 38):
I can't believe that people STILL believe that photo.......That compartment was WAY too small for a body.

click!
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Wed May 24, 2006 4:55 pm

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 38):
I can't believe that people STILL believe that photo.......That compartment was WAY too small for a body.

Unfortunately, the "onboard morgue" is true; and would accomodate a reasonable sized body. (coming from an apparent fellow fatass, it's too small for me without some stuffing, so get out your blankets, FAs).  Wink
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:24 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Thread starter):
Now days it is more likely an FA could die in flight and no one would notice.

Lol...cold, but often somewhat accurate.
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RE: Woman Dies On DL Flight And Goes Unoticed!

Wed May 24, 2006 6:26 pm

On long haul flights, if someone dies on board, there is this thing called "rigor mortis" Once it sets, you'll have to remove the passenger along with the whole freaking seat row. It's very difficult to maneuver a person in rigor mortis. That is why SQ ordered that compartment to store bodies.

Quoting Wukka (Reply 44):
Er, you pee and poop your pants. You obviously haven't watched many people die and lose control of "normal functions".

You are right. That is why I find it difficult to understand how no one noticed. The smell of the spilled contents when the sphincter relaxes upon death would be enough to notice. Also, dead people make strange noises while they are dying (even in their sleep) and after they're dead.

On the other hand, I read somewhere that not everybody's sphincter relaxes, maybe this was the case.
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:58 pm

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
I just wouldn't want to sit in the seat that someone died in. Gross!

Why is it gross, it's not like the person decomposed or leaked our their organs...they just stopped breathing and passed away, don't be so scared of things...

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 11):
rather than having it just 'there'

so when another human being dies, they become an it? that's really sad you would say something like that, that person was someone's family
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