Summa767
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AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 3:44 am

As it has been mentioned elsewhere, Avianca will be adding frequencies and launching new routes using its newly delivered Fokker 100s and that are being operated by SAM. F100s are primarily serving some internal routes, but some new international services as well as additional frequencies will be added from mid-June.

From 18th June:
MDE (1105)-BAQ(1215:1300)-AUA (1520): Weds and Sunday
AUA (1605)-BAQ (1625:1655)-MDE (1805): Weds and Sunday
(This is a new route)

From 2nd July:
BOG(1605)-CUR(1905): Weds and Sunday
CUR (1950)-BOG(2050): Weds and Sunday
(In addition to current Monday and Thursday MD83 service)

From 17th June
BOG(1500)-GYE(1645)
GYE(1730)-BOG (1915)
Both daily except Weds and Sunday. Times change from 1st July by approximately +55 mins.
In addition to daily MD83 service

From 17th July
BOG (0900) - VLN (1155)
VLN (1240) - BOG (13.30)
Daily except Weds and Sunday.
This is a new route

VLN: Valencia, Venuezula
GYE: Guayaquil, Ecuador
CUR: Curacao
MDE: Medellin, Colombia
BAQ: Barranquilla, Colombia
BOG: Bogota, Colombia
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 6:08 am

Quoting Summa767 (Thread starter):
From 17th July
BOG (0900) - VLN (1155)
VLN (1240) - BOG (13.30)
Daily except Weds and Sunday.
This is a new route

This is awesome news!!! 2006 has been a very important year for Colombian-Venezuelan aviation. First the 6X weekly MD80 CCS-MDE service from Aeropostal and now AV strikes back by serving Venezuela's 3rd most important city nonstop from its hub in BOG.

I wish the best to AV in this new route. I hope our VLN spotters can get us a pic of AV's F100. Ya sabes Edgar!

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 6:38 am

Can anyone add all Colombo-Venezuela flights? City pairs connected have increased notoriously and from time to time I get to know that another city has new services to either BOG or CCS.

Cheers...
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 7:57 am

Avianca's expansion plan has been admirable. I would like to sum up all the new routes that are going to be launched soon, or those which are going to see increased frequencies:

Domestic

Bogota-Bucaramanga (from all-F50 operation, to F100-operation)
Bogota-Pasto (from all-F50, to mixed operation with F100)
Bogota-Pereira (from mixed M83/F50, to mixed M83/F100)
Bogota-Armenia (from all-F50, to mixed operation with F100)
Bogota-Cartagena (additional 9th daily flight with F100; the other 8 with M83)
Bogota-Medellin (one of the 2 F50-flights goes to F100. Total of 14x daily)
Bogota-Ibague (new route with 2x daily F50)
Bogota-Neiva (new route with 2x daily F50)

International

Bogota-Los Angeles (new route - 3x weekly 762)
Pereira-Barranquilla-New York (new route - 4x weekly M83)
Pereira-Cartagena-Miami (3x weekly M83)
Bogota-Valencia (new route - 5x weekly F100)
Bogota-Barcelona (new route - 2x weekly, one of them via Alicante)
Bogota-Mexico City (from 4x weekly to daily 762)
Bogota-Quito (from 3x daily to 4x daily)
Bogota-Guayaquil (from 1x daily to 12x weekly)
Bogota-Curacao (from 2x weekly to 4x weekly)
Medellin-Barranquilla-Aruba (2x weekly F100)

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 2):
Can anyone add all Colombo-Venezuela flights?

Listed by airlines:

Avianca

Bogota-Caracas - 4x daily flights: 1x763 and 3xM83
Bogota-Valencia - 5x weekly flights: F100 [eff. Jul17]

Aeropostal

Caracas-Bogota - 2x daily flights: M8X
Caracas-Medellin - 6x weekly flights: M82

Aires

Bogota-Maracaibo - 4x weekly flights: Dash-8-300
Cucuta-Maracaibo - 3x weekly flights: Dash-8-100
Barranquilla-Maracaibo - 2x weekly flights: Dash-8-100
Cartagena-Maracaibo - 2x weekly flights: Dash-8-100

Conviasa

Caracas-Bogota - 1x daily flight: 733

LAB Airlines

Caracas-Bogota - 3x weekly flights 722



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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 8:29 am

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
This is awesome news!!! 2006 has been a very important year for Colombian-Venezuelan aviation. First the 6X weekly MD80 CCS-MDE service from Aeropostal and now AV strikes back by serving Venezuela's 3rd most important city nonstop from its hub in BOG.

I wish the best to AV in this new route. I hope our VLN spotters can get us a pic of AV's F100. Ya sabes Edgar!

Saludos desde Caracas,

so I was right with my comments some weeks ago in other treat that we will get soon a increase of Avianca in the venezulean market.
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 9:02 am

Good news! So Venezuela´s 3 most important cities are all covered from BOG now.

To add to the frecuencies,

AV BOG-PMV 1x weekly MD-83 (it is scheduled)
P5 BOG-PMV 1x weekly MD-83 (only charter)
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 8:30 pm

Great news for this important city. I hope AA finally starts the VLN-MIA service. But - still - this airport has much more potential than 2 daily MIA and a 5xweekly BOG service.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):

To add to the frecuencies,

AV BOG-PMV 1x weekly MD-83 (it is scheduled)
P5 BOG-PMV 1x weekly MD-83 (only charter)

The AV flight seems to be a charter as well as it can' t be booked on the AV website and the GDS.
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Thu May 25, 2006 8:37 pm

I also heard about the AV expansion to CUR. It just disappoints me that the arrival times in CUR aren't that good because the sun is almost gone by 19:05  Sad

But I will definately go out to take photos of AV's F100 in CUR  Big grin

So in the end I am happy to see another aircraft here Big grin

Saludos,

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Fri May 26, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 6):
The AV flight seems to be a charter as well as it can' t be booked on the AV website and the GDS.

It remained as a charter during a long time, but it became scheduled at the end after all. It's likely that these flights are sold within tour-packages, or bought basically through travel agencies, possibly explaining why it isn't bookable through the site; but AV's weekly BOG-PMV service is officially approved as a scheduled flight.


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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Fri May 26, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 2):
Can anyone add all Colombo-Venezuela flights?

Though fellow A.Netter Southamerica has already pointed out the current state of Venezuelan-Colombia flights, let me just say, for the sake of comparison and a bit of history for our younger members, that this is roughly (in terms of weekly flights) what it was at the height of air exchanges between both countries in 1993 following the historic (for Latinamerican standards) opening up of skies treaty between both countries in 1991. However, capacity-wise, there is an obvious decrease since those days:

VIASA:
Daily Caracas-Bogotá-Lima with DC-10-30
3 times a week Caracas-Cartagena de Indias with 727-200A

AVENSA:
Daily Caracas-Bogotá-Quito-Lima with 727-200A
Daily Caracas-Bogota-Quito with 727-100
Daily Caracas-Santo Domingo (Venezuelan border town)-Bogota with 737-200A

SAETA:
Daily Caracas-Bogotá-Quito-Guayaquil with 727-200A

JD Valenciana
Daily Valencia-Bogotá with DC-9-15

Zuliana de Aviación:
Daily Maracaibo-Bogotá-Medellín with 727-200A

Avianca
3 daily Caracas-Bogota with 757 & MD83equipment

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Fri May 26, 2006 11:13 am

Good news for my hometown airport! I hope AA starts operations soon in VLN as well. It's so sad that this announcement come these days when local press has been critisizing VLN so bad 'cause of its run down facilities which are in urgent need of some maintenance.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
I wish the best to AV in this new route. I hope our VLN spotters can get us a pic of AV's F100. Ya sabes Edgar!

I'll try to make it to the airport and get some pictures dude !

greetings from Valencia, EDGAR.
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 6:51 am

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
Venezuela's 3rd most important city
So after Caracas, Maracaibo and then Valencia? Is that the order? Which would be the fourth? I would have thought that VLN was the second.

BTW, I like to see AV expanding to strong destinations like VLN. One can be confident that the yields will be at least decent and that AV is not giving false steps or taken unnecessary risks.. Excellent news for the Colombian community in Valencia..

[Edited 2006-05-27 23:54:02]
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 7:00 am

There is an article in Dinero (Money) magazine about how AV is extremely concerned about the renovation of BOG, specifically with the possible conditions / rates that can be expected from the new managers:

http://www.dinero.com/wf_InfoArticuloNormal.aspx?IdArt=25540
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 8:34 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 11):
BTW, I like to see AV expanding to strong destinations like VLN. One can be confident that the yields will be at least decent and that AV is not giving false steps or taken unnecessary risks.. Excellent news for the Colombian community in Valencia..

VLN has a lot of high yield traffic, as in Valencia are many international companys located....

Avianca good move!
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 8:59 am

I was just reading this thread again and I'm really sad AV chose those very late arrivals to CUR  Sad

I can't take photos of this nice AV F100 at that time. It's already dark by than....  Sad

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 9:54 am

Quoting Summa767 (Thread starter):
MDE (1105)-BAQ(1215:1300)-AUA (1520): Weds and Sunday
AUA (1605)-BAQ (1625:1655)-MDE (1805): Weds and Sunday

So the turnaround time for the F-100s is 45 minutes then.. right?
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 15):
So the turnaround time for the F-100s is 45 minutes then.. right?

Only on international stations. Turn-arounds in domestic spoke stations is 25 minutes, like it is for the MD-83s.


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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 12:39 pm

Quoting Summa767 (Thread starter):

Even though I new them all anyway, Thanks for not assuming everyone has memorized every airport code in the world.
Nothing irritates me more than trying to figure out a post because some idiot wants to show the world how smart they are....and how dumb everyone else is...and talks only in code.

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 1:35 pm

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 16):

To be clearer, the 25-minute turn-around time applies for domestic spoke stations between domestic runs. BAQ is a domestic station and the rotation between the MDE-BAQ and the BAQ-AUA segments is 45-minutes, which could lead to confussion with what I stated in my previous post.



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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 8:37 pm

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 11):
Which would be the fourth?

It depends on what kind of traffic you mean. The second largest airport in terms of passengers is PMV (Porlamar), not MAR, not VLN.
But of course the yield in MAR and VLN is higher.
If you consider the size of the city and the yield I would now say number four is PZO (Puerto Ordaz-Ciudad Guayana) with about 500.000 inhabitants and a lot of industry. I am sure we will see some international expansion there soon. The Bolivar state Government is making a lot to improve the airports.
http://www.e-saarbolivar.gob.ve
PZO is in a much better shape than VLN.



 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 10:59 pm

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 19):
The Bolivar state Government is making a lot to improve the airports.
http://www.e-saarbolivar.gob.ve

Thank you for that link, I was checking the website and it has very interesting information.
That airport looks very nice for an intermediate city..they sure are doing a good job..
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Sun May 28, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 19):
PZO is in a much better shape than VLN

Any airport in Venezuela is in better shape than VLN, I have never been able to understand why no a single administration hasn't done a thing to improve VLN facilities, especially given the fact that Valencia is an important industrialized city offering good yields to airlines.

Saludos desde Valencia, Edgar.
 
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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Mon May 29, 2006 12:40 am

Theres a new aircraft parked in AV hangar in BOG, a 757, painted in blue and

silver, Is this a new leasing? any Info ABOUT THIS PLANE?

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Mon May 29, 2006 12:50 am

It is not a 757, it is a 767-200 ex XA-TNS, that is now being re registered as N728CG.

N767NA is painted all white since it is being returned to its owner next week and its replacement N513NA will start revenue flights next week.

5 Fokker 100's have been delivered so far.

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Mon May 29, 2006 8:24 am

Quoting AV757 (Reply 23):
It is not a 757, it is a 767-200 ex XA-TNS, that is now being re registered as N728CG.

N767NA is painted all white since it is being returned to its owner next week and its replacement N513NA will start revenue flights next week.

Why doesn't AV use Colombian HK-registrations? I assume there must be a reason for AV to use N-registered aircraft, but why? AV also has the Irish registered MD83s which are leased aircraft but why isn't there any AV aircraft using Colombian registrations? Does it only have to do with the aircraft being leased and not owned or is there more to this?

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RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

Mon May 29, 2006 1:02 pm

A bit of trivia regarding the Fokker-100's:

  • SMR (Santa Marta) is the ninth domestic station to receive F100-service. The third daily service from BOG to SMR is programmed to go from MD-83 to F100 later this year. The other two flights stay as MD-83's.


  • Domestic stations that are now being operated with the F-100s, or that are scheduled to receive them soon are: Bucaramanga, Pereira, Pasto, Armenia, Monteria, Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta.


  • Curious to notice that none of them has been fully-converted to F100-service, and remain to some extent still mixed either with F50s, or with MD-83s.


  • BOG-MDE, AV's top-domestic market, registers the most variety in terms of equipment: daily 757's, MD-83's, F-100's and F-50's.

  • The spoke station which receives the most number of daily operations with Fokker-100's is Bucaramanga, with five daily flights from BOG.




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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Mon May 29, 2006 5:36 pm

    Quoting AV757 (Reply 23):
    5 Fokker 100's have been delivered so far.

    Could you give us some more info on these? Delivery dates, current reg etc.
    I know of three that have been delivered:
    11457/ N1448A / HK-4419-X (Feb 11)
    11482/ N1462C / HK-4420-X or 4417-X? (Feb 15)
    11506/ N1470K / HK-4417-X or 4420-X? (originally for VIP) (March 20)

    ferried to TUL are of which the first two apparently have been delivered:
    11465N1453D (originally for VIP)
    11469N1457B
    11514N1472B
    11458N1449D
    11449N1446A
    11479N1459A

    still at MHV:
    11419N1434A
    11464N1452B
    11467N1455K
    11481N1461C

    Anything known on planned delivery dates of the remaining F100s?
    Will VIP get any Fokker 100s?
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Tue May 30, 2006 12:03 am

    No Fokker 100's for Vipsa Ecuador.

    The other two Fokker 100's that have been delivered from TUL and have arrived at BOG are:

    11465/N1453D
    11469/N1457B

    Their new Colombian registeries will be HK-4430X and HK-4431.

    Fokker 100 number 6 should be delivered by mid June.

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Tue May 30, 2006 5:04 pm

    Thanks AV757! looking forward to see some pics.

    Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 26):
    11464/N1452B

    just found out that this one has been ferried to TUL on May 24
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:22 pm

    Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 26):
    Anything known on planned delivery dates of the remaining F100s?
    Will VIP get any Fokker 100s?

    11514 N1472B This one was flown to BOG on 3rd June

    11458 N1449D This one should be ferried to BOG from TUL (3 pm) via MIA on 9th June.

    So 7 F100 in AV's fleet by the end of the week.
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:10 pm

    Speaking about AV , when will they reveal their fleet renewal plan ?

    In another term , when will they announce their choice for 787s and 737NGs ?
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:57 pm

    Quoting Summa767 (Reply 29):
    11514 N1472B This one was flown to BOG on 3rd June

    11458 N1449D This one should be ferried to BOG from TUL (3 pm) via MIA on 9th June.

    Thanks for the info! Let us know when you know more about the Colombian regs.

    Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 26):
    11457/ N1448A / HK-4419-X (delivered Feb 11)
    11482/ N1462C / HK-4420-X or 4417-X? (Feb 15)
    11506/ N1470K / HK-4417-X or 4420-X? (originally for VIP) (March 20)

    Can someone confirm these regs? There is conflicting info on these. For instance, 4417X has apparently been sighted before its delivery.
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:16 pm

    Quoting FCKC (Reply 30):
    Speaking about AV , when will they reveal their fleet renewal plan ?

    In another term , when will they announce their choice for 787s and 737NGs ?

    Someone at their financial Dept. told me they're still analyzing the proposals, there's a special group of people doing this. Obviously, no word on either A or B for their choice of supplier so far, but i'm, pretty sure we'll hear something from AV in 4 or 5 months time.

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:56 pm

    Has any F50 been taken out of service ?
    Any full picture of the new 767-200 ?
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:47 am

    Quoting Danimarroquin (Reply 33):
    Any full picture of the new 767-200 ?

    Not that I've seen. Funnily enough I am going to be going to Alicante airport the day before, and possibly the day after the first AV flight! But I fear that it will be too much effort to go on the day of this historic flight.
    I look forward to seeing pictures though  Smile
    Perhaps somebody will post a reminder for ALC and BCN spotters next week!
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:07 am

    Is the new 767 the one that has "Colombia es Pasión" on the tail?
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:44 am

    A bit off topic, but Dutch Antilles Express is looking for Fokker 100 aircraft but the airline mentioned it would take about seven months to get a Fokker 100 ready from the dessert. Does it take that long for these aircraft to become airworthy again? I was surprised by this.

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:26 pm

    Quoting Turk223 (Reply 35):
    Is the new 767 the one that has "Colombia es Pasión" on the tail?

    Indeed.

    Just FYI I saw N1446A at the General Aviation zone of MDE on June 18th still with that registratation and just parked there, not operating
    Maybe something to do with the upcoming F-Air.
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:23 pm

    Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 3):
    Pereira-Barranquilla-New York (new route - 4x weekly M83)
    Pereira-Cartagena-Miami (3x weekly M83)

    The frequencies on these routes where quickly changed recently. JFK-BAQ-PEI is now 3x weekly and MIA-CTG-PEI is now 4x weekly, the latter performing significantly better. I would not be shocked if the JFK flight is suspended during non-peak travel periods.
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:35 pm

    Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 38):
    JFK-BAQ-PEI is now 3x weekly and MIA-CTG-PEI is now 4x weekly

    I suppose that it does make sense that MIA has the more frequencies. I hope that the performance of the JFK flight pays off and that it can be kept.

    BCN seems to be showing very good signs, starting with a completely full first flight. There was a bit of a hurdle with the first stop in ALC -that happens on 1 of its 2 weekly flights- as the authorities there insisted on getting all passengers off as it was the first point of entry into the country that checks had to be carried out (only 4 pax were bound for ALC). They made a mess of it, leaving 11 pax detained who had a visa but not a letter of invitation (people who have visas do not need one!), but thanks to Ms Noemí Sanín, Colombia's pro-active Ambassador, all was smoothed out for today's flight.
    At this stage AV will have to think of another 767 so that frequencies can be expanded.
    EZE is in real need of going daily, and it is only bureaucracy that is preventing it from happening.
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:58 am

    Quoting Summa767 (Reply 39):

    BCN seems to be showing very good signs, starting with a completely full first flight.

    I hate to disappoint you but on our inaugural flight AV018 on June 14 on board N421AV from BOG-ALC leg we only carried 69 passengers, and from ALC-BCN leg only 89 including in transit passengers to BOG.

    I was the second captain on that inaugural flight.

    Regards:
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:08 am

    Quoting AV757 (Reply 40):
    hate to disappoint you but on our inaugural flight AV018 on June 14 on board N421AV from BOG-ALC leg we only carried 69 passengers, and from ALC-BCN leg only 89 including in transit passengers to BOG.

    That´s funny. Of course, I think you're a more reliable source than any newspaper, but Summa767 did started a thread in which a local ALC newspaper said the flight was almost full, I think somewhere around 178 pax. Obviously seemed to be a great number for AVs new route, but somehow, journalists again make up news. At this point, I don't trust that article, but the delay issue was just as Summa767 mentioned it??

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:43 am

    Quoting AV757 (Reply 40):
    I hate to disappoint you but on our inaugural flight AV018 on June 14 on board N421AV from BOG-ALC leg we only carried 69 passengers

    Disappointment indeed. I happen to have read the news on a local newspaper that proudly stated that the flight had been filled! ( http://www.diarioinformacion.com/sec...dNoticia=522500&rand=1150811874985 )
    One can only hope that the numbers pick up. Please let us know how it progresses. Incidently, does the crew layover in Barcelona? I trust that you found it a nice city to stay in. Then you do the retun on the next BCN-BOG flight? or go to MAD?
    Alicante is pleasant too, despite the dust field impression one gets when landing there. Tempted as I was to be at the airport for the historic arrival, I could not be pulled away from a gorgeous beach 15 minutes away from El Altet international.

    [Edited 2006-06-22 19:04:01]
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:27 am

    It would be interesting to know how has BOG-LAX been doing on its first flights. I almost got to be onboard the inaugural flight with Avianca, but Copa made a much more tempting offer, and I finally decided to go with them via PTY, and do not regret it one bit. I was extremely surprised with their professionalism, efficiency and how precise their processes are. Avianca could sincerely learn a couple of things from them.

    Looking forward to my trip back to Colombia with Copa.


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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:00 am

    Well, tomorrow is the long awaited first F100 flight of AV to CUR. As the arrival time is not in my favour for photography is there anyone here who can inform me the latest arrival time here in CUR? Maybe if the flight departs earlier than planned or arrives earlier than planned, I would like to know. It's the first F100 flight to CUR so I'm very excited! If anyone knows the actual departure/arrival time tomorrow of the AV's first F100 to CUR please PM me or let us all know in this thread. Muchas gracias!

    Saludos,

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:33 am

    It is a Fokker 100 registry HK-4438X. It is scheduled to leave BOG at 09:50 Local time; on th BOG-MDE-BAQ-AUA route.

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:42 am

    Hola AV757,

    Thank you for the information but I was wondering about the Fokker 100 flight to Curacao tomorrow. The new Foker 100 flights on wednesday and sunday flights are to start tomorrow July 2. Is the aircraft you mentioned (HK-4438X) scheduled to fly to Curacao tomorrow? I've heard AV changed these Fokker 100 to Curacao with the MD83 so no Fokker 100 flights are planned for Curacao, any news on that?

    Saludos,

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:13 pm

    Quoting A388 (Reply 46):
    I've heard AV changed these Fokker 100 to Curacao with the MD83 so no Fokker 100 flights are planned for Curacao, any news on that?

    Hello A388,

    I don't know about the long term, but for today at least the flight is scheduled to be flown with an MD83, arriving at 1855.

    I have a feeling that despite having taken delivery of 7 (or maybe 8 now) F100s, AV is being slower is putting them into actual service than tehy had planned. I escpect that sooner rather than later. The good news is that the 2 new weekly flights to CUR are operating from today, albeit with a larger craft.
     
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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:47 pm

    Thanks for the update Summa767. I was hoping to see their Fokker 100 instead of the MD83 that I have already seen many times now. I was looking forward to seeing the beautiful AV Fokker 100 today for over a month and now it is changed, a big disappointment.

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    RE: AV (MM) F100 New International Services

    Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:30 am

    Quoting Summa767 (Reply 47):
    I have a feeling that despite having taken delivery of 7 (or maybe 8 now) F100s, AV is being slower is putting them into actual service than tehy had planned.

    This might well be due to the fact that the F100 was not certified for high elevation fields.(standard was 8000ft)
    Last month the high elevation certification process was finished and the package is now available to all operators.
    Further the modification/upgrade process of all airframes goes on schedule and without any problem.

    Willem
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