|Quoting Viasa (Thread starter):|
Presently the Atlas/Polar-Group operates roughly 20 747classics (mostly on own business, some wet-leased to other carriers)
The Atlas/Polar mainly operates on behalf of other airlines, so no, they are not operated on own business. Atlas is the largest ACMI cargo airline of the world. Only Polar flies on their own, but almost all Atlas aircraft are operated on behalf of other airlines as they are specialised in ACMI leases. The biggest contract being for the U.S. military.
There already was a thread about this:
My reaction here was:
Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 4):
Polar and Atlas used to fly 747-200s into YHZ
to pick up seafood but stopped in 2005 I guess when Icelandic started seafood operations.
I guess now that 747-200s are parked and pilots are laid off, I won't be seeing Polar or Atlas back in YHZ
True, I used to work for PO
. During my time as a customer service/operations agent at PO
, we did have scheduled flights from Canada to AMS
via Scandanavia to accomodate the popular demand for salmon to Asia. These flights were later dropped due to increased competition in that region and SK
Cargo also reported to start similar flights that time using 5Y
wet-leased aircraft. This eventually never materialised as far as I know.
Quoting N754PR (Reply 5):
As the two are the same company it should be no problem for them to opeate a 5Y
744F when the need it.
Also true. We used to "lease" aircraft from 5Y
whenever needed. As PO
is owned by 5Y
they can swap aircraft if the need arises even though this appeared to be difficult some times. One problem between these two companies is that they have the same owner (Atlas Inc.) but both companies have very different strategies. They are competitors to each other, which might sound strange but it isn't. 5Y
's business strategy is bases on ACMI leases to other cargo airlines. These cargo airlines are their customers while these same customers are actually competitors to PO
who operates in the same markets, particularly in Asia.
As for PO
getting rid of their Classic 747 fleets, that also doesn't surprise me. When I worked the PO
flights in AMS
, we had technical problems on a regular basis. Some of these aircraft were just plagued with technical problems on a constant basis. 5Y
and eventually PO
will have to start looking at 744 cargo conversions as this will be the next step in the cargo industry in my opinion. The 747 Classic just has had its life, even as a cargo aircraft it is just not economical, especially with the increasingly higher fuel prices. More competitors are using modern equipment such as the 744F and 744ERF and even MD11F aircraft. These aircraft are much more fuel efficient.
Good luck to PO
, I sure miss working for them.