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I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:10 am

I am totally, toally embarrassed to say that I work at MSY everyday. It really is a sad airport from an airlines point of view. I'll explain further as I go on. As most of you know I am a BIG advocate for the City of New Orleans in general...and more air service to MSY is a good thing. It troubles me though that such a world class city has such a second rate airport.

The airline I work for uses a gate on the C councourse here. Since I have been employed by the airline, our jetway has crapped out no less than six times. Usually the Airport Bridge Company (apparently the only jetway company in Louisiana) comes out and fixes it in a day or so. Not this time. Our ancient, 1960's-era, rusted, waterlogged, spider web infested, piece of **** jetway died again on us four days ago...and to this day, it is still dead in the water.

So what did the airport do? "Oh you guys just move on down to C11 (the only useable spare jetway that the airport has available for use right now on a daily basis) until yours gets fixed". Great. Problem solved. Not hardly! C11...wow....what a sad, sad jetway. Besides the typical rust infestation and the always open access door that leads to hardly-ever-used customs/immigration area, the jetway does not have a working canopy to shield passengers from the elements.

Now I told airport ops about the canopy problem a few days ago and they said they would get the repair company to take a look at it. Well, today I found a note...a handwritten note with numerous spelling errors (even misspelled the name of my airline)...that said "Canopy is inoperative. Do not use it. Will have to order parts for it." What a joke. And of course, it rained today...and rained hard...and passengers got soaked and the aircraft's cabin got a nice dose of water in it.

I was so embarrassed at that point you have no idea.

How can an airport have such INADEQUATE facilities for its tenants is beyond me. And the sad part is that rent at MSY is extremely high. Paying such a high price you would expect the basics...and basics to me include clean jetways which are in good working order. No one seems to take pride in anything at this airport anymore and it's sad. Oh, some "cosmetic" changes are taking place in the terminal, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

I can see why F9/TA/AC/HP/YX left. I don't blame Katrina so much anymore as I do overcharging the airlines and not delivering much in terms of decent facilities.

I am telling you, it is THAT bad. If I owned an airline, I would go to the airport and demand better service or I'd just pull out of the market altogether and go to BTR or GPT.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I am totally, toally embarrassed to say that I work at MSY everyday. It really is a sad airport from an airlines point of view. I'll explain further as I go on. As most of you know I am a BIG advocate for the City of New Orleans in general...and more air service to MSY is a good thing. It troubles me though that such a world class city has such a second rate airport.

As I understand it, plans call for a completely new airport at New Orleans and MSY will be replaced. Hopefully losing your Exec. Dir. to SLC won't be a big deal since SLC is likewise woefully inadequate in terms of terminal space and gates for the number of PAX they serve as a major hub for DL and focus city for WN.
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:26 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
As I understand it, plans call for a completely new airport at New Orleans and MSY will be replaced

There is always talk about that but I have my doubts if I ever will see it in my lifetime. All talk and no action is the name of the game down here when it comes to aviation-related ventures.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:26 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
"Canopy is inoperative. Do not use it. Will have to order parts for it."

I don't know the rules at MSY, but a inop canopy will make the bridge unusable at most airports. The canopy is a fire barrier that must be in place whenever passengers are present in case of a fire on the ramp. Some airports are on top of this, some don't care.


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Sun May 28, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting HarrisAir (Reply 3):
I don't know the rules at MSY, but a inop canopy will make the bridge unusable at most airports. The canopy is a fire barrier that must be in place whenever passengers are present in case of a fire on the ramp

Oh not down here. It's fine and dandy to use one with an inop canopy down here. Most likely, no one here knows that rule...or they just choose to ignore it.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:33 am

"I dont know i think PHL would be up thare in the Worst Airport. to work in... "
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:34 am

You work at LAX?  duck 
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 11:51 am

MSY,
our contract with the city here is that they provide routine mx on the jetway so that there will be no hiccups when a flight arrives. i have actually had the city workers come out late at night to fix a flat tire....if ual or any other carrier here is going to pay 17k a month for a particular gate they had better make sure that it works
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Sun May 28, 2006 1:10 pm

Sounds like life at BWI! BWI, is ruled by WN. They worked a deal with the MAA, Maryland Aviation Administration and got themselves a spanking new state of the art concourse A! In A you don't feel like you are at BWI. The air conditioning actually cools! It is bright airy and features great spooting views. A dream setup. Well, WN is the big kahoona and we are the sloppy seconds. We are the second largest carrier and we have concourse D the ghetto of BWI. Built back in the 70s and early 80s it was built as economical drab 70s/80s modern. Translate to dull gray and earth tone colors, dingy windows and if you are anywhere past Brookstone and Roy Rogers, then, if you are hot blooded like me (hot all the time) then, my friends, you get to sweat. Anywhere from D-20 to the commuter gates and if the temp in the summer is below 80 degrees then by God, it is cold. Onward to the jetways! Where do I begin? Ours date from the Nixon administration. They shake, rattle and roll. Some are tilted and you feel like you are in the lair of one of the villians on the campy 60s TV Batman series. And we have those glass double doors from hell that love to sound alarms at the drop of a hat. If I had my way and money were no object, I'd level concourse D and build something like WNs showcase with air conditioned jetways and concourse air conditioning that actually air conditions the air! The moral of this story. If you ain't the big mover and shaker airline at your airport than, you hurry up and wait for the sloppy seconds. At least this is the way when you deal with the great state of Maryland where beuracrocy, red tape and rhetoric is an art form!
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 1:25 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
As I understand it, plans call for a completely new airport at New Orleans and MSY will be replaced

There is always talk about that but I have my doubts if I ever will see it in my lifetime. All talk and no action is the name of the game down here when it comes to aviation-related ventures.

PLEASE...... they have been talking their asses off about a new airport for MANY years.... long before I was around, even!

Our city deserves a MUCH better airport.... The govt/industry officials are corrupt... plain and simple.

Maybe we can build one out of chocolate ?

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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 1:59 pm

Quoting Nworlnsbearcub (Reply 9):
Maybe we can build one out of chocolate ?

I think it would melt in the sun.  Smile

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 7):
if ual or any other carrier here is going to pay 17k a month for a particular gate they had better make sure that it works

I agree. It shouldn't even BE an issue. I'm sure it isn't an issue at progressive airports. Sadly, our's is stuck in the 60's.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 2:37 pm

You call MSY the worst, I dont think anyone can beat Bombay or Delhi for the worst airport

Although I dont work in it i do travel there 2-3times in a year and I feel ashamed of myself whenever I go there

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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 2:44 pm

Unfortunately, it seems that the workings of the airport are no different than the workings of the entire city. After everything that has gone on, and the inadequacies still going on today through the corrupt city government, is anybody actually surprised?

What a shame. I feel sorry for the people (like yourself) that actually care for the city and want to think progressively. At this point, I think you're the minority.

I say "get out".
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 3:17 pm

Poor New Orleans...

I still think they should just wipe the map clean, haul in 10 feet or so worth of fill to cover what remains (get rid of one of those pesky mountains out west), and rebuild the city on top at something resembling sea level.  Wink

And bury MSY while they're at it and make a new airport.  Smile
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Sun May 28, 2006 3:21 pm

I wouldn't call MSY the worst, but it's quite a bit run down, old, and in need of a MAJOR upgrade. But there are probably more important things in N.O. that need to be rebuilt before they worry about the airport.

I have only been there once, appx 3 years ago. All I can remember is the odd smell the whole airport has.  Sad
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 4:28 pm

Quoting JBo (Reply 13):

Your post is unfunny and uncalled for.
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Sun May 28, 2006 4:45 pm

THe worst airport by far is PHL. My home airport I am sad to say and I am sick of the place. I spend a good part of my life passing through that crappy and disgusting place. Rotten facilities, the worst kind of incompetent and poor management, awful baggage handling, ground crews are lazy and indifferent, DELAYS up the wazoo, poorly planned and designed runways, controllers who are to insecure to use the other runways other than 27/9 L and R .........its dirty and poorly lit and so on and so on....corrupt from top to bottom. US claims to be putting in 20M, but I think the boy wonder CEO should stop counting him millions and pay attention to the needs of the airline and get the US employee base cleaned up and functioning. The things I see would just blow you away!
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting Cityguy (Reply 16):
US claims to be putting in 20M, but I think the boy wonder CEO should stop counting him millions and pay attention to the needs of the airline and get the US employee base cleaned up and functioning. The things I see would just blow you away!

They are. They have already spent millions for new ground equipment. They are spending millions updating the employees breakrooms. They are also spending millions upgrading the gate areas, whose progress can be easily seen.

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Sun May 28, 2006 5:13 pm

Should be interesting-I wonder if they can spend money and hire ground crews who actually are AVAILABLE to marshall the planes in when you land. I cant remember a time when I have landed and we actually went right to a gate. You have to build in a delay factor for that as well. Terminal F is the worst and as more flights are handled by the commuters, the worse that gets. I actually hate to complain on like this, but years of abuse towards to paying passenger have taked their toll. I fly 150K + miles a year and it all starts at PHL. Oh, did I forget to mention the poorly run TSA crews?
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 8:09 pm

Quoting Cityguy (Reply 18):
Should be interesting-I wonder if they can spend money and hire ground crews who actually are AVAILABLE to marshall the planes in when you land. I cant remember a time when I have landed and we actually went right to a gate. You have to build in a delay factor for that as well.

Since when is the airport responsible for airline worker hiring?

As for New Orleans. When wife and I were there end of last June, I must say the airport was about the BEST aspect of the city. I was never more disappointed in anywhere before.
what was funniest, though, was how they needed to come up with something like a $7 million payment to the Saints (NFL) to keep them there. Since much of the place seemed to be crumbling, I thought "Well they sure have their priorities f***** up down here."

But, glad to see the aquarium up and running again. That was my favorite stop there.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 8:15 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
Your post is unfunny and uncalled for.

It's funny that you find his post so offensive. It was the French who decided to build a city below sea level (N1120A is from France).

I agree with him. Game over, New Orleans! If my tax dollars are going to rebuild a city, rebuild it where it isn't likely to be flooded again.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 9:01 pm

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):
It was the French who decided to build a city below sea level

You mean like a good portion of Holland?
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 9:21 pm

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):
It's funny that you find his post so offensive. It was the French who decided to build a city below sea level (N1120A is from France).

I agree with him. Game over, New Orleans! If my tax dollars are going to rebuild a city, rebuild it where it isn't likely to be flooded again.

I agree. Even though New Orleans is a nice city, it would be plain old stupid to re-build a city below sea level, especially with the odd weather problems we are having today.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:06 pm

I wouldn't consider a broken jetbridge to be a major problem. I work at Heathrow Terminal 4 for British Airways and we cope with numerous broken jetties on a daily basis. HAL (Heathrow Airport Ltd) come and fix them, then another one breaks.

We still manage to board 351 people via one uncovered stairway onto a 747 in 30 minutes or less. Our facilites are sorely lacking in Terminal 4 and honestly, we can't wait for our move to T5!

A broken jetty does not a bad airport make........!

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
It troubles me though that such a world class city has such a second rate airport.

No offence intended, but how does one define 'world class city'? Personally, I would not have included MSY in that 'list'. New York, Chicago, Dallas, Miami, Los Angeles, yes. New Orleans, well, no, not really. But I suppose it's subjective.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:30 pm

Quoting Lordanmol (Reply 11):
You call MSY the worst, I dont think anyone can beat Bombay or Delhi for the worst airport

Delhi secures my vote as well!! From the moment we get dropped off outside the terminal, to the journey through it, it is absolute chaos. Given the staggering growth in the Indian economy, both DEL & BOM need airport infrastructures that reflect one of the two fastest growing economies in the world.
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:36 pm

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):

It's funny that you find his post so offensive. It was the French who decided to build a city below sea level (N1120A is from France).

N1120A lives in the US, and he found the post offensive because he lives in New Orleans, not because he is from France.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:44 pm

Well I don't think DTW (the old terminal) would be all that great to work in either. I mean with all the construction that is going on. And airlines are being moved like crazy. They moved DL, CO out of that terminal (Smith) and put them in the B terminal Gates 19, 20, 21, 22. At the very end. Spirit has moved from one end of the Smith Termanial to the other.

I will be glad when all of this is done and we have a new airport...
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Sun May 28, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 23):
Personally, I would not have included MSY in that 'list'. New York, Chicago, Dallas, Miami, Los Angeles, yes. New Orleans, well, no, not really. But I suppose it's subjective.

Lists are subjective. I wouldn't include Dallas in mine, not by a long shot. N.O is a historic city that is known the world over for its music, food, and architecture. The city has more national historic sights than any other in the U.S. So yeah, I would call it world class. It's a unique, intriguing place. That being said, I know it's not for everybody.

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):
Game over, New Orleans! If my tax dollars are going to rebuild a city, rebuild it where it isn't likely to be flooded again.

So typical how this thread has turned from good old airport bashing into the usual "to build or not to build" nonsense.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 27):
Lists are subjective. I wouldn't include Dallas in mine, not by a long shot.

I totally agree with you, they are entirely subjective. Then again, look at the international connections (by air) that a city such as Dallas has. Then look at the same for MSY. It's not so easy for us to get to MSY from outside of North America as it is for other cities.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 28):
look at the international connections (by air) that a city such as Dallas has. Then look at the same for MSY. It's not so easy for us to get to MSY from outside of North America as it is for other cities.

Well, looking at it by air, sure, MSY lacks DFW (and most others) by a long shot! But overall international commerce is probably pretty comparable thanks to the Port of New Orleans, which is still one of the top five in the world in terms of total cargo shipped.
 
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Mon May 29, 2006 12:26 am

Good grief ..... I understand your frustrastion. I 've been there. I had the same sort of problems back in the day, that eventually made me quit my job. I am still involved with the airline industry and believe me, i have the same problems with our local airport. Not to mention the upper management within the company i am currently working for.
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Mon May 29, 2006 1:31 am

As a former airline employee (AA) and a travel agent I feel your pain! MSY is filthy dingy and just plain dirty. The last time I was there (pre- Katrina) and as we were at the skycap for UA my partner noticed how it looked like mud stains on all the white truces holding up the canopy. He is oblivious to the facilities as like most pax he doesn't have the eye for those things. The men's room on the Concorde was FILTHY! What gives with the empty food court area below the end of the concourse that is just literally an empty pit. The entire city of MSY always had that edge of decay look about it which is in the quarter at least charming but local charm turning into outright squalor is a sad statement about the local MSY government. MSY needs to realize that the airport is the first impression most first time visitors get upon arrival. Keep the airport unique using the local architectural and social vernacular so it isn't just a sterile glass box but at least keep it clean! When I was memorizing my city codes when I first was hired by AA I used to think MSY=Messy New Orleans. Little did I know that was the literal truth!
 
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Mon May 29, 2006 1:45 am

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):
It's funny that you find his post so offensive. It was the French who decided to build a city below sea level (N1120A is from France).

London lies in a major flood plain and Amsterdam lies even lower than New Orleans. They are two of the most important cities in the world. They also have state of the art flood control systems that prevent mass flooding from happening like happened in New Orleans.

Quoting Bestpilot (Reply 20):
I agree with him. Game over, New Orleans! If my tax dollars are going to rebuild a city, rebuild it where it isn't likely to be flooded again.

Do you live in California? I was born and raised in California and still consider myself a Californian first eventhough I have lived in New Orleans for the last 2 years, and if you want to make this a tax dollar issue, how about you stop spending MY money?.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 3:17 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 27):
So typical how this thread has turned from good old airport bashing into the usual "to build or not to build" nonsense.

Well, I wouldn’t call it nonsense. I mean we can’t have a serious discussion about capital improvements at MSY without discussing the large elephant in the middle of the room.
In the grand scheme of things you know as well as I do that New Orleans has much bigger problems than its run down airport.
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I suppose like most problems it just comes down to supply and demand. If we examine MSY pre-Katrina can we honestly say it was a major gateway deserving of funds at the expense of other projects in Southeast Louisiana? As an example would you rather have scarce tax dollars go to the seaport or the airport?
 
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Mon May 29, 2006 3:51 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 33):
Well, I wouldn’t call it nonsense. I mean we can’t have a serious discussion about capital improvements at MSY without discussing the large elephant in the middle of the room.
In the grand scheme of things you know as well as I do that New Orleans has much bigger problems than its run down airport.
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I suppose like most problems it just comes down to supply and demand. If we examine MSY pre-Katrina can we honestly say it was a major gateway deserving of funds at the expense of other projects in Southeast Louisiana? As an example would you rather have scarce tax dollars go to the seaport or the airport?

I know the city has some serious problems facing it, many of which have been discussed in the non av board. It wasn't my intent to delve into that here.

As for the tax dollars part, well, I just would like to see the airport improved to a point where it is not an eyesore for passengers and employees. I know as well as you do that MSY will probably never be a huge gateway city for flights...but more can and should be done so that if some airlines look to expand here down the road, they'll at least get their money's worth from the facilities here.

Down here, in terms of international commerce, the port is #1 by far...the airport is a distant, distant 2nd...and it will probably stay that way until the local leadership coughs up the cash to make it a nice facility.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 5:35 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I am telling you, it is THAT bad. If I owned an airline, I would go to the airport and demand better service or I'd just pull out of the market altogether and go to BTR or GPT.

Airlines are always highly encouraged to leave MSY for GPT! We would love to serve them! (BTW GPT will have a new state of the art facelift complete in 2007...)

Speaking of MSY not being world class, the airport authority is not the only business entity in that town w/ no real priorities or concern for it's customers...but that would be relegated to a 'non aviation' topic.

Suprised no one has thrown MEM in the list of bad airports as everytime we get to talking about airline hubs, everyone seems to bash MEM.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 5:51 am

Its funny because when I read the title I thought you were going to talk about LHR!!

Maybe T3 just maybe!! and T2 is just plain funny!!

Do not get me wrong working at LHR must be a great experience but traveling??

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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting Cityguy (Reply 18):
Should be interesting-I wonder if they can spend money and hire ground crews who actually are AVAILABLE to marshall the planes in when you land. I cant remember a time when I have landed and we actually went right to a gate. You have to build in a delay factor for that as well. Terminal F is the worst and as more flights are handled by the commuters, the worse that gets. I actually hate to complain on like this, but years of abuse towards to paying passenger have taked their toll. I fly 150K + miles a year and it all starts at PHL. Oh, did I forget to mention the poorly run TSA crews?

I'm certain, based on many of your previous posts, that if the city picked up PIT airport with a whale jet and dropped it at the PHL site, that you still would find something to complain about. Obviously you have some sort of self serving interest to denigrate the airport and no improvements of any magnitude will suppress your vendetta. Give it a rest, or switch to CO at EWR and we can look forward to your complaints about that airport.

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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 6:52 am

MSYtristar,

As a native of New Orleans, a frequent user of MSY, and an individual who works in airport ops (in another city), I share your shame for the delapidated airport you work at. I am generally one who takes pride in being from New Orleans, even after Katrina (say what you will about rebuilding), but I have always been thoroughly disapointed with MSY. This doesn't come from working at an airport to which I hold to a high standard, even if that is my job. But simply as a user of the airport, it is sad to see the filthy old carpet, the dirty baggage claim, and I don't even know where to begin with the restrooms. As someone stated earlier, the airport is a gateway to the city, and should be a place of good first impressions. I'm sorry that the airport doesn't feel the same way.

As far as the jetway goes, I don't know another city that would necessitate funtioning canopies more that MSY. I would be equally as embarrassed as my customers walked off the aircraft, through a New Orleans' downpour, then up the rusty jetway. Where I work, we have mechanics who specialize in nothing else but jetway maintenance who are always on call. However, I am well aware of the age of jetways at MSY and the nationwide shortage of parts or trained indviduals to work on the ancient beasts (we have a simliar problem with escolators where I work). There comes a point where jetway replacement is the only logical choice despite the incredible amount of capital required. We recently replaced 2 jetways that were seriously old and inadequate for the type of operations that needed them.

I will never give up hope for my distant home, and will always be an advocate of the rebuilding process, but I sure hope the airport takes a serious look at its condition and makes an effort to do something about it. Hopefully your new director will bring new ideas and restored focus to the service it owes the airlines, users, and community.

P.S. I'll be back down in a few weeks. What airline do you work for so I can plan ahead and bring an umbrella onboard the aircraft.  Smile
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting Vega (Reply 37):
I'm certain, based on many of your previous posts, that if the city picked up PIT airport with a whale jet and dropped it at the PHL site, that you still would find something to complain about. Obviously you have some sort of self serving interest to denigrate the airport and no improvements of any magnitude will suppress your vendetta. Give it a rest, or switch to CO at EWR and we can look forward to your complaints about that airport.

No way, he wouldn't complain about a Pittsburgh design in PHL! Hahaha


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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:05 am

I don't see anything wrong with MSY. I think the facilities are absolutely wonderful! Just think if you arrived in a beautiful state of the art facility. Then went into the city and found the complete trash heap, slimy, urine smelling dump that New Orleans is (and that was before Katrina)? You would feel deceived and downright lied to. The airport as it is could be considered the city's crown jewel.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:12 am

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 40):
Then went into the city and found the complete trash heap, slimy, urine smelling dump that New Orleans is (and that was before Katrina)?

So how do you really feel about the city? Wow. At least it has character, something that ATL sorely lacks.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:12 am

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 19):
Should be interesting-I wonder if they can spend money and hire ground crews who actually are AVAILABLE to marshall the planes in when you land. I cant remember a time when I have landed and we actually went right to a gate. You have to build in a delay factor for that as well.

Since when is the airport responsible for airline worker hiring?

I think he was talking about US... not the airport authorities
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:21 am

Quoting Cityguy (Reply 16):
US claims to be putting in 20M, but I think the boy wonder CEO should stop counting him millions and pay attention to the needs of the airline and get the US employee base cleaned up and functioning.

I think you should stop your babbling and be thrilled that US still exists to have an employee base.

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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 41):
At least it has character, something that ATL sorely lacks.

The total filth has overshadowed any "character" charm New Orleans ever had. As for Atlanta, I agree, I live here because of mine and my ex wife's jobs (co-parenting). I'm actually from the SF Bay Area.
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 44):
I'm actually from the SF Bay Area.

Yeah, that sounds about right, ATL is full of out-of-towners it seems...that's why there is really no loyalty for its sports teams.

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 44):
The total filth has overshadowed any "character" charm New Orleans ever had

Sorry you feel that way.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 10:14 am

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 45):
Yeah, that sounds about right, ATL is full of out-of-towners it seems...that's why there is really no loyalty for its sports teams.

Go 'NINERS!!! If you're not a fan in the down years, you have no right to be a fan in the good years.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 45):
ATL is full of out-of-towners it seems...

....and they vote absentee for Nagin! Big grin
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 46):
....and they vote absentee for Nagin

I bet you'll be glad when the Nagin billboards come down at least. I wonder how much longer they'll be up?

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 46):
Go 'NINERS!!! If you're not a fan in the down years, you have no right to be a fan in the good years

See, even though you think my fair city is quite the vile place, I have to respect the dedication to your team.
 
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting ORDagent (Reply 31):
The entire city of MSY always had that edge of decay look about it which is in the quarter at least charming but local charm turning into outright squalor is a sad statement about the local MSY government. MSY needs to realize that the airport is the first impression most first time visitors get upon arrival.

What you fail to understand is that the provision of decent public services has never ranked especially high among the governments of New Orleans and Louisiana.

The organization I used to work for has offices all over the US, including New Orleans. New Orleans was always the hardest office to fill - in part because of the absolutely horrible public schools and crappy infrastructure. I personally know three people who were sent to the New Orleans office against their will, and resigned or retired as soon as their tour was complete.

I know there are many loyal residents of Nawlins who are members of Anet who will react with dismay at the above. I know you love the place - during my four years there, I met many people like you. I'll admit that I still miss the many fine restaurants and bars I used to frequent. I admire you for your love for your hometown. At the same time, I just don't understand why you tolerate the rampant corruption that permeates the local and state governments that ought to be protecting you....

Quoting N1120A (Reply 32):
London lies in a major flood plain

Is London built below sea level?

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 40):
I don't see anything wrong with MSY. I think the facilities are absolutely wonderful! Just think if you arrived in a beautiful state of the art facility. Then went into the city and found the complete trash heap, slimy, urine smelling dump that New Orleans is (and that was before Katrina)? You would feel deceived and downright lied to. The airport as it is could be considered the city's crown jewel.

 rotfl  Maybe they just want to create the Bourbon Street atmosphere immediately upon arrival?
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RE: I Work At The Worst Airport In The World

Mon May 29, 2006 10:32 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 48):
I know there are many loyal residents of Nawlins who are members of Anet who will react with dismay at the above

Personally I understand where you are coming from. This is not an easy place to live in. Like i've said, certainly not for everyone. The public school system has been in shambles for years...as has the infrastructure....thankfully, the city is getting a second chance. A clean slate. A new beginning. Some think it's just a second chance to screw up more than before. But i'll keep the faith until i'm proven otherwise.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 48):
Maybe they just want to create the Bourbon Street atmosphere immediately upon arrival?

Oddly enough, Bourbon Street doesn't get anywhere near as trashed as it did before the storm. Lack of tourists are a big cause. You can actually walk the street now and not step in some unknown liquid. I like it better this way.

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