dellatorre
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What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 12:49 am

Could somebody tell me if ATL is better than EWR or JFK.
 
CV990A
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:12 am

I doubt it- JFK/EWR have more flights from European carriers, and has more connections to other hubs, in the US, and in other countries. ATL does have a growing number of flights, but JFK has the name recognition, and people are going to go to the more familiar of the 2 cities. Just my 2 cents...
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ContinentalEWR
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:35 am

In terms of frequency, choice of flights/carriers, scope of operations, it
would have to be JFK, closely followed by Newark. However, JFK is not a
very nice place to travel through (unless you fly out of Terminal One,
which is home to Lufthansa, Virgin, Air France, THY, and Olympic, along
several Asian carriers). Improvements are being made to the main
international terminal, and when American Airlines and Delta complete
their Terminal modernization plans, JFK will be a nicer place.

Newark is more compact, newer, and the city's only true hub airport.

Atlanta has a lot of international flights, mostly operated by Delta and
its partners. Connections are probably very good, given that this is the
world's busiest airport (Delta alone operates over 600 flights a day).

For prestige, go with JFK. For convenience, go with Newark or Atlanta.

 
exPratt
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 3:45 am

CO EWR: Prestige flying through JFK???? Hmmm, haven't flown in a while I guess.  

The virtues of using JFK, EWR, or ATL as a gateway to Europe all depends on where you are starting out and where you are going. But presuming you are going to one of the major European cities, I think EWR and ATL are about equal assuming that you can good connecting flights. EWR's CO concourses have better places to eat than ATL's Concourse E. JFK is a pain because you have to change terminals unless you arrive and depart on the same carrier. Returning to the US, avoid JFK like the plague. All of the Customs facilities except at DL are slow, Unfortunately, DL's JFK domestic connections are terrible. EWR is better and ATL is better yet. My homebase is BWI and it is infinitely more convienent for me to go to ATL and backtrack to BWI than it is to go to JFK. EWR could be better if the connection is right.
 
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 12:58 am

From Barcelona, I can tell you that DL and TW fly to BCN nonstop on 767s from JFK, EWR and ATL, and in some seasons IB flies JFK and MIA to BCN on D10s and 340s. Then there's a lot of American and local companies flying to CDG, LHR, ZHR, LIN, FCO, ATH, AMS, MUC, FRA and some others. But, FOR GOD's SAKE, DO NOT connect any other European city via BCN if the incoming flight from abroad has a stopover at MAD (which unfortunately is quite usual: Barcelona CANNOT have anything that Madrid does not have also. Pure egocenstrism and centralism): you'll miss the connection. MAD is the airport that has the most and the longest delays in Europe. Seven years experience are talking to you...

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Peter
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 1:04 am

I think that Atlanta is the best because it has more domestic connections than the others. It is the world's largest hub.
 
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 1:04 am

Atlanta is the best Gateway to Europe. I would have to say EWR isnt far behind, and Im not even going to comment on JFK.
 
klwright69
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 1:48 am

Some like ATL, but I'm in DEN and going to ATL for Europe connections is foolish. Just as it would be from SEA, PDX, BOS, MSP, DTW, etc. I like CO's terminal in EWR. DL's terminal in JFK is just so, so. Customs at the DL terminal was easy though.
 
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 3:41 am

I don't even know if the ATL should even be considered in this category. Only a handful of airlines fly to Hartsfield from Eurpoe -- Air France, KLM, BA, LH, Sabena (but not for much longer), SR (But aren't they pulling out too?) and...I think that's it. And Delta doesn't fly to THAT many European destinations from Atlanta. You can't even get to Heathrow from Atlanta.

In terms of connections to Europe, JFK is unparalleled. If you want to go directly to your European destination without going through those headaches of airports like Frankfurt or Heathrow, it's best go by JFK. But JFK's domestic connections are lacking. However, I think the massive improvements to the airport will improve that.

But I think the best connecting airport for European destinations is O'Hare. Probably the best domestic links within the U.S. with a plethora of of European destinations to go to as well.
 
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 3:45 am

SR is not pulling out of ATL. The flight will remain a daily MD-11. Since corporation with delta ended they have already downsized ops from a 747 to an M11.

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Peter
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 4:33 am

Delta has none stop flights to about 15 different cities in Europe from Atlanta. That number, along with all of Atlanta's domestic connections is why Atlanta is the best gate way.
 
doug
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 4:51 am

An argument can be made for Miami.The access to Latin America and South America is unmatched,and domestically you can get to the major cities within the U.S, I mean how many European travelers need to go to west Walawala Washington since I know the point about Miami not being a good place to go for flights domestically will and has been brought up.Lets not forget Miami has the most airlines serving one airport in the world and is second to JFK in total international flights within the U.S
 
dellatorre
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 5:07 am

Ithought i was talking about Europe not Latin America. Just a little note. South America ii is part of Latin America.
 
doug
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 5:23 am

Not in Miami, they are considered two different regions my freind and I only brought up the point of Latin America and South America because Miami has a lot of flights to the regions,for the travelers from Europe that go there (where else in the states can you go to every major point in the Latin and South American markets).
 
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RE: What Is The Best American Gateway To Europe?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 10:42 am

I think it's JFK hands down, at least from the East Coast (and in general). It's serviced by just about every European airline that offers intercontinental flights (except SAS which seems to prefer Newark but that doesn't make sense in their Star Alliance membership).

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