RickYHM
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YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:29 pm

From a local radio station.

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YHM (Hamilton) is being urged to stop fighting plans for a new airport in Pickering.
Steve Shaw of the (GTAA) Greater Toronto Airports Authority,the operator of YYZ, insists that regional airports in both YHM (Hamilton) and Pickering are needed, as alternatives to YYZ (Pearson International).

Shaw anticipates that the number of passengers flying out of YHM will reach almost 8-million by 2032, even if the Pickering airport is built.

He's also throwing cold water of "peak oil" theories, saying soaring oil prices will have a minimal impact on the air travel industry because of improving technologies and the realities of the "modern, global world".



I wonder if GTAA is getting worried that YHM objections to Pickering are being listen to and will derail GTTA's attempt to build a new airport east of YYZ?
 
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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:51 pm

Well if we don't even have a subway, let alone any train link to YYZ, YHM or pickering project is going to suck. Hamilton is it's own city, so I don't think it should count as Toronto. It's like saying BHX is LON. It just isn't...
 
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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:27 pm

Quoting RickYHM (Thread starter):
Quote:
YHM (Hamilton) is being urged to stop fighting plans for a new airport in Pickering.
Steve Shaw of the (GTAA) Greater Toronto Airports Authority,the operator of YYZ, insists that regional airports in both YHM (Hamilton) and Pickering are needed, as alternatives to YYZ (Pearson International).

Shaw anticipates that the number of passengers flying out of YHM will reach almost 8-million by 2032, even if the Pickering airport is built.

He's also throwing cold water of "peak oil" theories, saying soaring oil prices will have a minimal impact on the air travel industry because of improving technologies and the realities of the "modern, global world".

8 million that would be something to see. I think that number is a little exaggeratted atleast at this point. Especially with all this talk about oil peak etc.

As far at the oil is concered I don't think tha its going to stop people from travelling its like saying people are going to start using horse and buggy to get around again.

I agree with more fuel efficient engins coming out things will change.

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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:47 pm

Well the difference is that BHX is around 80 miles from London, Hamilton is 35 from Toronto. Less than that of LAX and ONT (40nm) which are operated together to serve the same region.

Hamilton is to Toronto as Ontario is to Los Angeles.
Or Gatwick to Heathrow.
Or Bergamo to Malpensa.

After all, what is Toronto, the 5 largest metro region in N.A.? If not that exact number, I know it's up there.
Foolish to think Pearson will be the regions only source of airline traffic...by the shear size of the metro, they need to think as they do in any far-flung city...like an L.A..
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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:28 pm

Someone is just needed with s signifuicant amount of money to really develop YHM. I almost wish that is the pickering airport proposal is strictly for the gtaa to make money I wish that the gtaa would buytradeport and take over YHM opps and put some real money into it.
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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:40 pm

Quoting Fly_yhm (Reply 4):
Someone is just needed with s signifuicant amount of money to really develop YHM. I almost wish that is the pickering airport proposal is strictly for the gtaa to make money I wish that the gtaa would buy tradeport and take over YHM opps and put some real money into it.

My thoughts exactly. GTAA taking over opps of YHM will be very beneficial. YHM could really do with an overhaul. It would also cost less to just upgrade it rather than build a brand new airport at Pickering. I dont think anyone would complain about that as compared to the disputes about the Pickering plan.
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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:54 pm

You guys are right, YHM need significant improvement especially when it comes to its pax terminal and apron. But if someone decides to invest into YHM I could see it grow tremendously. I could see YHM becoming the charter/LCC airport for Ontario. Im sure airlines like TS,SS, Canjet, Sunwing, etc, would consider flying from YHM since most of they're pax are direct Toronto passengers and wouldn't mind taking a 45min drive to YHM to save $$.

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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:01 pm

I hope, if YHM does expand, it doesn't lose it's friendly attitude to our hobby. I would hate to think it turned into another YYZ with aircraft difficult to spot and photograph in all but a few places. That said, YHM is underused at present and is definately a viable LCC alternative to YYZ.

Dunno about Pickering though. Does Toronto NEED two satellite airports?

And will YHM get better transport links?

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RE: YYZ Official See Bright Future For YHM

Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 3):
Foolish to think Pearson will be the regions only source of airline traffic...by the shear size of the metro, they need to think as they do in any far-flung city...like an L.A..

Toronto already has a reliever airport for regional ops, called YTZ & Porter will soon be taking full-advantage of the island airport.

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 6):
Im sure airlines like TS,SS, Canjet, Sunwing, etc, would consider flying from YHM since most of they're pax are direct Toronto passengers and wouldn't mind taking a 45min drive to YHM to save $$.

CanJet already came and went. The charter airlines will no doubt continue to add service to YHM, but will hardly even come close to taking YHM to 8 million pax. YHM is probably still over 5 years away from even getting back to 1 million pax.

The only useful purpose I see a Pickering airport serving (at least for the next +30 years) is to provide time-sensitive shuttle service to Ottawa and Montreal pax bound for east-end Toronto. Pickering would be competing more with the train than anything else. YYZ still has a massive amount of room for expansion, even after T1-New is completed.

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