LHMark
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Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:07 am

I was on startup airline Oneida Air's website, and they claim to be gearing up for 763 service to the Caribbean out of Hancock Field, Syracuse. That's a little airport, and little city for such a large plane. Any other small cities with passenger widebody service?
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:38 am

Delta flies a 767-300ER into Hartford, CT from JFK, complete with
a BusinessElite section. This flight is timed to connect at JFK with
flights bound for Europe and India.

 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 2:50 am

Nuremburg, Germany (NUE) also sees charter widebodies, I think, and it's tiny.
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 3:13 am

Maui, Hawaii (OGG) has only a 7,000 foot runway but sees 763s, 777s, D10s, and L-1011's from the mainland. In addition to smaller 757s from the mainland and DC-9s and 737s from the interisland carriers.
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 3:18 am

I have seen a couple of times a Tower 747 at Ft. Smith Regional, Arkansas. I don't know what the length is on that runway, but I can imagine that it would be pretty hard to land and take off on it in a 747. Do any of you know why this plane would have been there and how long the runway is at Ft. Smith? I know that the airport shares the runway with Ft. Smith Army Base and I see military aircraft take off from there a lot. Therefore, it might have been a military charter. Pretty funny think to see though. The 747 was longer and bigger than the actual airport terminal. Also, at Hartford, Delta used to fly an L-1011 from there to Orlando daily I believe.
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 3:33 am

In February, I vacationed on the small Caribbean island of Bonaire, where I was amazed to see a KLM 747 land at the small airport. There is a single runway and no taxiway. All planes have to do a 180 degree turn at end of runway and travel on the runway back to the small terminal. Quite a sight, and of course the 747 dwarfed the terminal! I was told KLM ran one flight per week from Amsterdam nonstop to Bonaire......
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 3:42 am

These British people love coming to Disney World and use this small(er) airport, although sporting a 9,000 foot runway, @ Sanford Regional:


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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 9:37 am

SXM, STT, and GCM all see wide bodies on a regular basis. The runways at these carribean airports are just 7000ft, with SXM served by 747s from AF and KL, a couple of times a week.
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:06 pm

UAL used to fly DC-10's into Omaha and Colorado Springs a few years back.

Also, DL flies 763's into JAX which is moderately small airport.
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:12 pm

Well, If we say JAX is a small airport being served by 763's, then we can say PBI and RSW are also served by 763's. Both PBI and RSW are smaller than JAX.
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:39 pm

St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada has service many times a week with a Canadian 767-300ER going Halifax-St. John's-London LHR. It is a small city in comparison with others mentioned. Also, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada has chartered A330-200 widebody service in the winter to Honolulu.
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 1:46 pm

How about Whitehorse, Yukon Territory in Canada's northwest? Whitehorse's only about 26,000 people, and yet there charters operating widebodies there during the summer! Balair and Condor with 767-300s, Air Transat with A330s. YXY get these widebodies because the North is very popular with European tourists, especially Germans. Remember the topic "Air Transat...Insanity or Poor Business Sence!" posted only a couple of days ago by C-GAGN?
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sat Jun 17, 2000 2:54 pm

Delta flies 767's and 763's into New Orleans, which isn't that big. MSY has something like 35 gates, spread out over 4 concourses. Plans are in the works to add a few more gates. MSY's two runways are 7000ft. and 10080ft., respectively.

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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 7:44 pm

Yes indeed. Most Caribbean airports are small by international standards and, due to the heavy tourist traffic, they receive frequent widebody service. I think that TAB takes the cake for the smallest; though its 9000 foot runway is longer than that of SXM, GCM, ANU and others, its terminal is smaller than most. The widebodies which park there dwarf the building and disembarking passengers form long lines onto the tarmac as the Immigration area is small. Widebody service is provided by BA 777-200s, jmc DC-10-30s and Condor 767-300ERs. Each type flies in twice weekly. BWIA used to fly its TriStars into TAB but has discontinued the FRA route on which TAB was a stopover.

Other examples include ANU with BA 747s, Virgin 747s, BW Tristars and others, UVF with the same types plus JM A310s and GND with BA 777. Condor and jmc also serve these ports.

 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 8:10 pm

Indeed, Carribean airports see probably the most widebodies compared to their size.

I always love the pictures from St. Maarten. They are famous for the approaches of these giant 747s of KLM, Corsair and Air France.

Unfortunately KLM does not serve SXM anymore with 747s. but a MD 11 looks quite impressive too.

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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 10:40 pm

Those are great pics from Saint Maarten.
Thanks Tripple 7.
My mother is a frequent visitor to the island and she has seen these wide bodies coming in so close, she said you can practically reach out and touch them (kids don't try that at home...)

How many public places in the world are there(eg. park or beach) where one can see heavies on final, seconds before landing?
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Mon Jun 19, 2000 7:39 am

Manchester, NH (MHT) occassionally will see a US Airways 767 when loads are high. But FedEx brings in a A-310 and UPS a 767 on a regular, daily basis. I should mention that this is a great airport to go planespotting.
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Mon Jun 19, 2000 5:49 pm

Could you please give me the URL of Oneida Air's website? Thanks!
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Mon Jun 19, 2000 11:48 pm

Star321: Couldn't find a website anywhere for this Oneida Air but here's a site where there are a lot of people doubting the existance of this startup or it's chances for even starting. Good luck on your research

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/33101
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 2:04 am

how about fargo, north dakota?

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but i suppose that most of these flights are diversions and not schedualed...
 
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RE: Smallest City/airport W/ Widebody Service?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 2:21 am

I spend most of the year in the Syracuse, NY area, and have seen little or no evidence of this Oneida Air- plus with the current Oneida Indian land claims and the lawsuits, I doubt an airline named after this tribe would be very popular in the SYR region!
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