RobertS975
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How Much Can DL Expand At JFK?

Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:03 pm

I ask this question thinking of the physical restraints imposed by the existing terminal 3. Since terminal 3 is where all the international flights need to arrive at due to FIS location, how much more can DL expand their international ops at JFK before they run out of gate space? I have never seen DL do pad operations at JFK except for the connection flights.
 
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RE: How Much Can DL Expand At JFK?

Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:31 pm

Quoting RobertS975 (Thread starter):
Since terminal 3 is where all the international flights need to arrive at due to FIS location, how much more can DL expand their international ops at JFK before they run out of gate space?

Terminal 3 has about 11 gates currently that can be used for wide-bodied international arrivals (with direct access to FIS facilities) - Gates 3-10, 12, 14, and 15. They currently have about 3 arrival banks which allow them to split the use of those gates:
1. 1pm - 2pm: 7 flights
2. 2pm - 3pm: 3 flights
3. 3pm - 4:30pm: 8 flights
Basically what happens now is the a/c from the 1st bank are towed to various tarmac parking areas and to Terminal 2 gates to make room for the later arrivals. Based on this, I think they can still squeeze in a few more flights.

Quoting RobertS975 (Thread starter):
I have never seen DL do pad operations at JFK except for the connection flights.

They haven't done it in ages but I remember arriving from Europe on a delayed DL flight once and we had to park at a Terminal 2 gate (it was the evening hour and all the T3 gates were occupied); we were then taken off the a/c via a PeopleMover (like the ones at IAD) and transported to the T3 FIS areas...I suppose they can do that if they really need to....I actually remember Pan Am doing that back in the day as well; there were 747s parked on the tarmac and passengers were transported by PeopleMovers from the Gate 11 area (back then it was Gate 9 at the Pan Am Worldport) to board their planes.

[Edited 2006-06-01 16:33:54]
 
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RE: How Much Can DL Expand At JFK?

Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:18 am

Delta's terminal space at JFK is another of the things to watch after the bankruptcy exit. The executive leadership is keenly aware that they need a complete overhaul there. The project was planned before 9/11 but canned to save costs. Perhaps in six or seven years, they can have a terminal to rival American's. That will be a good challenge.
 
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RE: How Much Can DL Expand At JFK?

Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:06 am

Quoting Fewsolarge (Reply 2):
The project was planned before 9/11 but canned to save costs.

Which was only logical, as it was supposed to cost close to $2 billion IIRC. Certainly not a small sum.