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Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:49 am

Well I was checking the Norfolk Internatinal (ORF) web cam and saw an AA 777 parked on the apron(see link). Anyone know what it is here for? Some kind of weather or mechanical diversion?

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3278125&nav=23ij0TFz
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:54 am

Probably a diversion from somewhere like JFK due to the thunderstorms.

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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:54 am

Probably a weather diversion of some sort due to what the sky is looking like... Anyone else know more?
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:55 am

As stated, probably a diversion, the east coast is a mess today with summer storms......everything from a LH 744 in PHL (EWR diverson) to CO aircraft at BWI, CLE, SWF, etc.
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:56 am

Diversion of the LGW-RDU flight... must be some bad weather at RDU.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:59 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Diversion of the LGW-RDU flight... must be some bad weather at RDU.

Ah ok. Defiently a rare aircraft here. Normally the largest we get is a 757. I wish I wasn't letting my sister borrow my car. I would already be at the airport taking some pics.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:06 am

That flight is AAL173 LGW enroute to RDU.

It is indeed rare to see a bird that big here. I'd go out there for a look if my car wasn't in the shop.

[Edited 2006-06-03 00:10:15]
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:15 am

AA - AMERICAN AIRLINES **
AA0173/02JUN
LGW 1300 N 62
RDU B C18 1620
4LGW/OUT1252 OFF1325 *0725
1RDU/INTMD LNDG AT ORF ETA1635RMKS ENRT WX
FTWDP ROBICHAUX *1514
2RDU/PRE1818 *1600
2ORF/IN1631 *1539
3ORF/ETD1730 AWTG FUEL *160
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:23 am

Any ideas as to the registration of this big bird?
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:15 am

Departed ORF 1905EDT
Est. RDU 1941EDT
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:31 am

I asked the same question when I was looking at the flightaware diversions earlier. They also sent a few flights to RIC. I am in Greensboro and saw the weather before Raleigh did. The storms were strong, but were not around for more than maybe 30-40 minutes. Obviously they could have built up a little more before they got to Raleigh, but my question is just how long is an aircraft fueled to be in a holding pattern? It seems like a hassle to divert to another airport if they storms are not around for hours.
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:37 am

Apparently the weather stayed around RDU for quite a while, as AAL173 didn't leave here until 7, and I don't figure they'd leave until it was clear to do so, as it only takes 30 minutes for the trip.

And from what I understand, most aircraft have an hour's reserve on board. My guess is they felt it better to divert. They might have even bussed the passengers down to RDU, as it's only about a 3 hour drive from ORF.

[Edited 2006-06-03 02:44:58]
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:05 am

Quoting Ewmahle (Reply 10):
I asked the same question when I was looking at the flightaware diversions earlier. They also sent a few flights to RIC.

What has been sent to RIC? Commercial wise anything besides the usual ERJs, CRJs and odd MD80?

I'm living in Richmond at the moment but have been down in the Hampton Roads area for most of the day and drove back through some pretty torrential downpours.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:14 am

I saw it take off and was very shocked to see it there. Also saw a North American 757 take off as well. Two very unusual players for ORF.
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:17 am

Wow. I wasn't aware of the NA bird being there. I must be losing my touch. I certainly didn't see it on FlightAware.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 14):
I certainly didn't see it on FlightAware.

Flightaware isn't the best with dealing with diversions, since it usually can't tell which airport the plane diverts to, and only can tell after the plane takes off again, and sends a departure message.

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[Edited 2006-06-03 03:21:00]
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:23 am

I know I wouldn't see it land on FA, but I normally look at the departures list to see if anything unusual pops up. I somehow missed that NA 752.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 13):
I saw it take off and was very shocked to see it there.

Yea I managed to get my car back from my sister and tried to get to the airport as quickly as possible. As I was coming around on Miller Store Road the thing went rocketing over my head. Kind of dissapointing but also awesome at the same time.

We really are deprived of heavies here at ORF. This is evident by how excited we got over a 777 coming to Norfolk, somthing alot of airports see every hour.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:04 am

Quoting Ewmahle (Reply 10):
I am in Greensboro and saw the weather before Raleigh did.

I was out flying a Piper Arrow out of Winston Salem, at the time the storm hit the INT, GSO area. Our stormscope was like a christmas tree, but thanks to 25' 2500 rpm we made it back safely. ( storm never realy hit Winston)

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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:31 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
What has been sent to RIC? Commercial wise anything besides the usual ERJs, CRJs and odd MD80?

It looked like a COA737-800 EWR-RDU and an AA Eagle 135 DFW-RDU. That is what I saw.
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 13):
Also saw a North American 757 take off



Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 14):
I certainly didn't see it on FlightAware.

Aha! That must've been the flight listed as a JM B752. (Didn't think they had a B757.)
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:22 pm

Hello all

Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 6):
AAL173 LGW enroute to RDU.

Anyone know how full these flights are from RDU-LGW and return???

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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 21):
Anyone know how full these flights are from RDU-LGW and return???

From previous posts, I think they usually run between 60-80% full.. depending on the time of year..
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:27 am

I saw nothing unusual at RIC at 9PM Friday night. I guess everything had cleared up and everyone went on their way. The airport terminal sure is in rough shape at the moment! I haven't seen it like this since 1985/1986 during the last complete terminal overhaul (not counting concourse extensions) when air side bridges were mounted.

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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 21):
Anyone know how full these flights are from RDU-LGW and return???

I think, don't hold me to this, the LGW-RDU route goes from a 772 to a 763 in the fall and winter...I know there is some big company that does a lot of business with AA in RDU and that is one of the reasons why the route exists (especially with such a large plane)
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 24):

I think, don't hold me to this, the LGW-RDU route goes from a 772 to a 763 in the fall and winter...I know there is some big company that does a lot of business with AA in RDU and that is one of the reasons why the route exists (especially with such a large plane)

i think the hub is a hold over from the TWA merger. I think the route primarily serves as a backup to connection traffic from all over the US to get to LGW when the JFK, DFW, BOS, etc flights are full.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:56 am

Negative
AA used to have a large presence in RDU
IIRC they have a contract with IBM or some other large company for service on the RDU-LGW route and to provide premium seats
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:58 am

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 25):
i think the hub is a hold over from the TWA merger.

RDU hub was not TWA contingent, but Eastern contingent. STL was TWA.

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 25):
I think the route primarily serves as a backup to connection traffic from all over the US to get to LGW when the JFK, DFW, BOS, etc flights are full.

Route primary is the Glaxo shuttle. Secondary as a backup for MIA and DFW.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:08 am

Hi

Quoting Elcableguy77 Reply 8:

Quote:
Any ideas as to the registration of this big bird?

According to www.acarsd.org AA173 was operated by N772AN.

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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting Daisywol (Reply 26):
IIRC they have a contract with IBM or some other large company for service

I think the IBM shuttle, along with the SAS shuttle, was the Midway RDU-SJC flight.. which didn't last too long.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:09 am

Quoting Kaputt (Reply 17):
We really are deprived of heavies here at ORF. This is evident by how excited we got over a 777 coming to Norfolk, somthing alot of airports see every hour.

Yes, but KNGU 5 miles away sees NA 763s, MD-11s, DC-10s, DC-8s, 742s.... and a variety of military heavies (C-5s, etc.)
 
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting N600RR (Reply 20):
Aha! That must've been the flight listed as a JM B752. (Didn't think they had a B757.)

Yeah, JM is leasing a B752 from NA for the summer period. Anyone knows the particular routing of this 752 that landed at ORF?
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting Elcableguy77 (Reply 11):
Apparently the weather stayed around RDU for quite a while, as AAL173 didn't leave here until 7, and I don't figure they'd leave until it was clear to do so, as it only takes 30 minutes for the trip.

Yea, storms were moving at slow pace at 25-30mph and training. Rainfall around an inch an hour in many spots with gusty winds. Very low visability to add to all that.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:57 am

I was at work when I saw an huge 777 land and taxi pass me. I nearly lost it! It was an awesome sight to stand just off taxiway C and watch it take off. The 777 is my favorite airplane.

I also saw the North American 757 take off.

We saw a few diversions from Thursday night to Friday night!
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:58 am

What's up with the weather up North? My CO flight yesterday from TPA-IAH was delayed by 2 hours coz of weather thus had to fly AA TPA-DFW-SMF instead since I'd have missed my connection at IAH if I waited to to fly CO. Hopefully my SMF-DCA flight tomorrow won't be affected by weather.
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:22 am

Here are a few of the Heavy Diversions that were at ORF.

Thursday

DL 1842 B757 LAX - JFK/ORF
Departed 2323

Friday

AAL 173 B777 GAT - RDU/ORF
Departed 1905

AJM 1011 B757 ORF - JFK
Departed 2002
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RE: Why Is An AA 777 In Norfolk?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:37 am

It's been a while since DL has brought any 757s out here. I know last year they were running a round trip a day with a 752. A shame they replaced that with an MD-88, as I really love '57s.  Smile
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