PolymerPlane
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Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:49 am

I just had a trip with delta on BDL-LAX during the memorial day weekend on 757.
It was in general a very pleasant trip with decent snack and very friendly crew. Good Job DL!

I was just checking the price for another BDL-LAX flight with DL, and found out that the equipment will be 737-800. I guess I can tell it was gonna get downgraded sooner or later. For the past several months I have been checking at DL site on how this flight is doing, and It was not very promising with a 757. Even on friday during memorial day the plane was not full at all. In fact I was able to enjoy an empty side in the middle (I took window seat of course  ). I guess I enjoyed the last 757 on this route for my LAX-BDL leg on may 31st (both  Sad and  Smile)

Anyway, when DL upgrades its products, will I see the new DL long haul product on the 737-800? I am planning to do several more trip on this route, and I had a great experience and cheap price on Song, and I am willing to pay more than AA ticket for non stop and Song-like experience on DL. In fact I was willing to spend $100 more than what I spent last year on the ticket without any complain .

Any info and discussion on this matter is greatly appreciated.

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PP

[Edited 2006-06-03 00:56:48]
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:55 am

Yes, 738's will be a large part of DL's long-haul expansion, at least domestically. So large, they are the next that are slated to get the Song IFE. With the closing of the 757 line in Seattle, the 738 is the only other option to fill medium-sized markets that the 757, ironically, replaced the 727 with. You will probably see the 738 be a regular attraction on the BDL-LAX flight. It certainly can't fall to an MD-88 due to range problems, but can't warrant enough traffic to fill a 757, so the 738 is the logical choice. By 2008, Delta's Song IFE conversion should be complete on all aircraft scheduled for it(everything but MD-88 and MD-90, IIRC).



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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:28 am

As much as I love a 757, DL's 738's are far more comfortable in my opinion. The interiors are much nicer and seem more spacious. Not sure if its an illusion, but the seat pitch seems greater in the 738.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 2):

I agree with you. I have taken red-eye flights on 757/738/A320/A319 and I can say that the 757 is the most uncomfortable even with all 3 seats to yourself so that you can lay down!!!! The most comfortable was a Frontier A319!!!!!
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:01 pm

This route cannot support a 757. I't just too large. A 737-800 is really too large as well, but I guess this is all they have.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:42 pm

I know they are sending the 738 on the 2 daily BOS-LAX-BOS flights, both of which used to be operated by the 752
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:08 am

The 738 is perfect for the BDL market with service out west. It's on the BDL-LAX, LAS and SLC routes now.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:16 am

But BDL has much smaller demand than BOS. This is about as thin a route as you will find in coast to coast markets.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:19 am

Is delta receiving new 738 from Boeing within this year? Where do they get so many 738 for the transcon routes?

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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:34 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 8):
Is delta receiving new 738 from Boeing within this year?

No new deliveries of any a/c in 2006 for DL of any type. The 8 737-800 scheduled for this year will go to 2008.
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:21 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 8):
Where do they get so many 738 for the transcon routes?

Higher fleet utilization through schedule adjustments, which allows a plane to spend more hours/per day in the air, and taking them off short sectors like ATL-BHM or SLC-BOI. The addition of alot of redeyes is helping the case as well, as those plane would just be sitting on the ground through the night, and with the redeyes, they are being put to better use.

Btw. does someone from those guys that work at DL know the current average fleet utilization and how it has developed/will develop?

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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:58 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 8):
Is delta receiving new 738 from Boeing within this year? Where do they get so many 738 for the transcon routes?

I know they dont get any new aircraft this year. Does anyone know if there are aircraft scheduled for delivery next year.
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:25 pm

When AA flew BDL-LAX, prior to 9/11, it used 737-800s.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:08 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Higher fleet utilization through schedule adjustments

And by using them on red-eyes rather than parking them overnight in Florida, for example. Park the shorter range jets overnight like the 737 classics and the MD80s and let the 738 and 757s work round the clock if possible.
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:37 am

Well, I booked a flight BOS-FLL on Jun 21 and it was downgraded to a 737-800. I'm not sure if its because of loads or aircraft positioning. I would think BOS-FLL still can support a 757 even in June.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:06 am

I wouldn't call 342 O & D pax on BDL-LAX a very thin route, that's why it always surprises me that airlines can't keep this nonstop route in their system with loads to warrant a nonstop. Just one of those routes that can't be figured out I guess because that's more than enough pax to fill at least one flight nonstop
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:19 am

Just checked the flight status for this flight. No movie? I thought all transcons got a movie...as well as a meal in F. No meal either....are these misprints on DL's website?
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:40 am

I also don't understand why there is no movie or why there is not a meal in F. On the LAX-BDL leg I can obviously understand, because it is a red eye. But the BDL-LAX flight is perfectly timed for an F class meal.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 16):
Just checked the flight status for this flight. No movie? I thought all transcons got a movie...as well as a meal in F. No meal either....are these misprints on DL's website?

On 752 at least there was movie on the overhead monitor. We had to purchase the $2 headsets for the audio. In coach class, we had 2 snacks, at least for the BDL-LAX leg, after take off and before landing. They were generous with water and beverages. Great service  Smile

It did not say any meal and movie service on the website when I flew them, but we got the service.

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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:41 am

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 14):
Well, I booked a flight BOS-FLL on Jun 21 and it was downgraded to a 737-800. I'm not sure if its because of loads or aircraft positioning. I would think BOS-FLL still can support a 757 even in June.

It can and does. The other 2 non-stop flights that day are being done by a 752. The 3 daily non-stop MCO flights are operated with 752s, as are the 2 daily non-stop PBI flights and the single daily non-stop RSW flight.

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 17):
I also don't understand why there is no movie or why there is not a meal in F. On the LAX-BDL leg I can obviously understand, because it is a red eye. But the BDL-LAX flight is perfectly timed for an F class meal.

I believe it depends on the aircraft, which may sound obvious. For example, when AA used to send mostly 752s on the BOS-DFW flights, I always had a movie when I would fly back home. Now that all the flights are done with MD-80s, there are no movies. I have only flown on a DL 738 once, BOS-CVG and CVG-BOS and there were no movies. When we were landing, the monitors flipped down to show our position and they also came down to show the safety video before takeoff.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:00 am

That 342 figure is both ways. But it's still more than I expected. Maybe the 800 will work. For some reason I thought they had around 165 seats. But 150 seems doable.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:08 am

Delta was in dire need of smaller aircraft in many of these Song routes. 199 seats was just too large. Now they can cut some of the fat at certain times and help replace the loss of seats that occurred when 767s were moved to International. I don't know how Delta is doing this, but I would hope the service is standard down to FLL regardless if it's a former Song 757 or a 737-800.
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
. Park the shorter range jets overnight like the 737 classics and the

The 737 classics are gone now also. DL has retired the 733's (2006), 762's (2006), MD-11's (Jan 1 2005), 732's (2006), 727's (2002?), and L10-11's (2001) since 2001.
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:35 am

Quoting B4real (Reply 22):
The 737 classics are gone now also. DL has retired the 733's (2006), 762's (2006), MD-11's (Jan 1 2005), 732's (2006), 727's (2002?), and L10-11's (2001) since 2001.

732 is still around, MD-11 was 1/1/04 I think, the 727s were 2003, L-1011 was 7/31/01.
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 23):
732 is still around, MD-11 was 1/1/04 I think, the 727s were 2003, L-1011 was 7/31/01.

You're right. The 732s are still flying, I was somewhat future tensed...

Quoting B4real (Reply 22):
The 737 classics are gone now also. DL has retired the 733's (2006), 762's (2006), MD-11's (Jan 1 2005), 732's (2006), 727's (2002?), and L10-11's (2001) since 2001.

As above...
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:53 pm

Quoting B4real (Reply 24):
You're right. The 732s are still flying, I was somewhat future tensed...

I guess the 732 isn't really a "classic" as it's too old for that?

Anyway, MD80s are still going strong...
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:25 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 25):
I guess the 732 isn't really a "classic" as it's too old for that?

What would you call it then, "Old School Jet"  Silly ?
 
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RE: Delta BDL-LAX Getting 737-800?

Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 21):
I don't know how Delta is doing this, but I would hope the service is standard down to FLL regardless if it's a former Song 757 or a 737-800.

I don't know. Lately, there has been alot of aircraft chages into FLL and MIA. DL 1472 for example, has been changing aircrafts even between flights. Sometimes it's a 752, sometimes it's a 737-800, and sometimes an md-88. On somedays like May 29, it was a 752 LGA-ATL and then a 737-800 ATL-MIA Or Vice versa on 21 May. If anybody is continuing on the leg, they have to get off, grab carry on and go to another aircraft. Really weird!

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