chrisjake
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American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:33 pm

where has American flown their 767-200's? i know they've done LAX/SFO - JFK, but have they ever gone to Europe or S. America? or Hawaii?


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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:44 pm

They sub on some Hawaii routes from time to time. also they did (maybe they still do) fly IAD-LAX (I flew one on that route back in 1999)
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:54 pm

Four of them have at least made a trip to MCI...

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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:10 pm

Quoting Chrisjake (Thread starter):
where has American flown their 767-200's?

Do a search in the photo search engine using AA, 767-200. It will show you the locations where AA 762s have been photographed. You can specify locations by continent (South America) and state (Hawaii). There are 590 photos on A.net using this search criteria.

http://www.airliners.net/search/

South America:

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Photo © Carlos A. Morillo Doria


Europe:

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Hawaii:

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Photo © Erik Nugal



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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:23 pm

Back around 2001/2002, AA's DFW-ZRH flight was a daily 767-200...flight has now become a 763. I also have some photographs of AA 767-200s landing at LHR from 2000...I don't recall from where though, but that was in the days of AA sending 767-200/300, 777 and A300s to LHR (only 777s now...).

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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:26 pm

The AA 762s now fly the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO transcon services, and seasonally fly the JFK-BDA route, and make an ocassional turn on the JFK-MIA run. Thats about it (aside from an occassional aircraft sub), as you many know, AA parked a good portion of their 762 fleet including all of the non-ER aircraft.

In the past, AA's 762s flew routes throughout the AA domestic system (note that transcons, including those out of BOS and IAD, in addition to JFK saw a lot of 762 service), and were also seen on some services to the carib.....and in the late 1980s to mid 1990s, AA 762ERs were regulars on the transatlantic services out of JFK and ORD. As AA acquired more 763ERs and 772ERs, the 762s were phased out of overseas flights.

The big question is how long will AA keep the 762 in its fleet? The 762ERs that are operational are about 20 years old......but the aircraft, in general, have flown and continue to fly long segments and therefore have a rather low number of cycles and there is no immediate rush to retire them (except for the fuel costs.....the 762 does not have great operational costs on a per seat basis). AA needs the 762 for the JFK transcons: its the right size, offers comfortable premium cabins (AA is stong in this market.....lots of the bi-coastal movie and biz crowd commute with AA between the two coasts on full fare premium tickets), etc. AA does not seem ready to "downgrade" the transcons to 757 service (and do a PS thing like UA) and flying the transcons with 763s is also an issue - AA does not want to cut frequency (the power brokers like the frequent flights) on the routes yet does not want to add seats that would harm yeilds......thus the 762s soldier on.

Many expect that, at some point in the near term future, just as soon as finances allow, AA will place an order for the 787 and that AA will use the 787 to replace its 762, A300 and, over-time, is large 763 fleets.
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:07 pm

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 3):

i started to do just that....but just didnt have time to sift through all those photos. it seemed that in the 1st couple of pages they were either at JFK or LAX. thx for posting the pics

i also see that they serverd Stockholm? from where, JFK?

did they serve ORD and MIA internationally?



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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:10 pm

Are there any ex AA 767-200s flying with new airlines?
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:11 pm

Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 6):
i also see that they serverd Stockholm? from where, JFK?

nope, Chicago
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:18 pm

Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 6):
but just didnt have time to sift through all those photos. it seemed that in the 1st couple of pages they were either at JFK or LAX. thx for posting the pics

The photo search tool allows you to pick individual countries or continents. You could have chosen Europe or South America, and eliminated all the US locations from the search results.
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RE: American 767-200's

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:36 am

I flew BOS-LGW on a AA 76-200 in 1999..... I still remember the crew they were excellent along with the steak they served in coach.
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RE: American 767-200's

Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 4):
Back around 2001/2002, AA's DFW-ZRH flight was a daily 767-200...flight has now become a 763.

Hmm...not when I flew on it in June of 2001.  Wink It was a 772 back then. I dunno, maybe it went to the 762 before the 763.

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RE: American 767-200's

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:04 am

I worked at ORD for AA from 91-94. At that time the 767-200s were flying ARN, TXL, STN, MUC, GLA, ZRH or a 767-300 or even the odd dc-10 to BRU or FRA. LHR and FRA were the first to get the "scud" errr md-11
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:16 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
(except for the fuel costs.....the 762 does not have great operational costs on a per seat basis)

Not true, as cost per seat should not be used as a measure only becuase of all the premium seats on the 767-200's lowers the aircraft's capaicty, but even though AA only has 181 seats on these birds, they could hold up to 290. That's only 62% of potential 1-class capacity... perhaps the lowest percentage in the AA fleet.

If you were basing costs on cabin area, the 767-200 has GREAT numbers!

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
AA needs the 762 for the JFK transcons: its the right size, offers comfortable premium cabins (AA is stong in this market.....lots of the bi-coastal movie and biz crowd commute with AA between the two coasts on full fare premium tickets), etc. AA does not seem ready to "downgrade" the transcons to 757 service (and do a PS thing like UA) and flying the transcons with 763s is also an issue - AA does not want to cut frequency (the power brokers like the frequent flights) on the routes yet does not want to add seats that would harm yeilds......thus the 762s soldier on.

I could not have put it any better!!
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:30 pm

lax to mia
dfw-jfk
dfw-gatwick
dfw-honolulu
ord-honlulu
some of the current routes
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:35 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
and make an ocassional turn on the JFK-MIA run.

I believe it is regularly operating a JFK-MIA turn this summer.
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:36 pm

Quoting AAden (Reply 14):
lax to mia
dfw-jfk
dfw-gatwick
dfw-honolulu
ord-honlulu
some of the current routes

None of those are current 767-200 routes. The only current routes are JFK-SFO/LAX/BDA/MIA.

LAX-MIA is a mix of 737/757/767
DFW-JFK are 757's
DFW-LGW is a 767 and a 777
DFW-HNL is 767's
ORD-HNL is 767's
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:40 pm

The 767's that I mentioned on all the routes above are -300's in case anyone was confused. There is also a 767-300 on the DFW-JFK route.
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:46 pm

Quoting Chrisjake (Thread starter):
have they ever gone to Europe

I flew BRU-JFK on an AA 767-200 in the late 80's.
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:44 pm

I think the -200s used to fly out of ORD to MAN and BHX.

If you go back far enough, there were 767-200s that flew ORD-LGA, replacing some DC-10s on the route. That was back when virtually every aircraft type flew the route, including 757s, 727, and MD-80s.
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:45 pm

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Reply 10):
I flew BOS-LGW on a AA 76-200 in 1999.....

Why in the world would they fly BOS-LGW when they fly BOS-LHR?

Both AA and UA used to regularly fly 762s on LAX-BOS as we unfortunately all know from 9/11
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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:33 am

Ummm I don't know but I think I know the airline, route, plane, and airport I flew into.
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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:42 am

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Reply 10):
I flew BOS-LGW on a AA 76-200 in 1999.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
Why in the world would they fly BOS-LGW when they fly BOS-LHR?

AA operated from BOS to both LHR and LGW between June 1998 and October 1999.

http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/comments/9712.htm

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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:45 am

They used to fly to MAN. Flew MAN-ORD in one in 1988. A few years later it went to 763, then to MD11 for a short period.


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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:02 am

My father in law flew the 767-200 out of ORD back in the mid 90's.
He mostly did stuff to Europe.
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:58 am

1984 there was a 762 doing SLC-ORD (or DFW?), but I have a pic of it at the gates here.
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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:19 am

I flew on a 762 from LHR-JFK back in the late 90's. I also flew on a 3-class 762 from ORD-BOS in june of 1990 (I think). I was in First and was very excited to have sleeper seats on such a short flight (I was about 10). Then again, I'd still be very excited - perhaps more so - to have sleeper seats on such a short flight. Perhaps I should take their flight from JFK to BDA for fun??
Anyway, where would that 762 have been going? I was returning from an alaskan cruise and had started the day on an early flight out of Seattle - therefore the flight must have departed ORD in the early to mid afternoon, so it wouldn't have had time to turn around in BOS and fly to Europe from ORD that evening I don't think. At that time didn't most of AA's transatlantic flights leave ORD rather early in the evening - like around 7pm? Did AA have any flights to Europe from BOS in 1989 or 90? Or did they have any late flights out of ORD bound for Europe?
Most likely my flight left ORD between 1 and 3pm getting into BOS around 4 - 6pm. With a 1.5 hour turn around that would mean leaving BOS between 5:30 and 7:30 and arriving ORD at 6:30 - 8:30pm. Even on the early side the flight would need at least 1.5 hours to prepare for a transatlantic flight... Back then turn arounds weren't as quick as they are now.
 
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RE: American 767-200's

Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:10 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 15):
I believe it is regularly operating a JFK-MIA turn this summer.



Quoting AA 777 (Reply 16):
The only current routes are JFK-SFO/LAX/BDA/MIA.

I believe due to the fire that ravaged N330AA in LAX on June 2, AA has had to replace the JFK-MIA-JFK-SFO 762 with a 763.

I'm flying the MIA-JFK route on Saturday and was originally booked on a 762 in the biz class cabin and much to my dismay, I am now in the "mini" coach cabin on the 763.

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