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New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:22 am

In an interview with the Gulf News Emirates Chairman Sheikh Ahmad ibn Saeed Al Maktoum hinted at upcoming new routes. He indicated Algiers and Tunis would be started soon, as well as US routes including Houston and a more general reference to South America and Argentina.

Full interview:
http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10044442.html

Its possible that the TUN/ALG could initially operated together or combined with TIP.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:27 am

Quoting Emirates777 (Thread starter):
South America and Argentina

This would be great, and it would be great competition in the Europe-LatAm market which is dominated by Iberia and Varig, both with a less mediocre Y class product. Flying from Europe to southern LatAm (SCL / EZE), I think many people would prefer flying an hour or two longer through DXB if it's at the same price. Business travellers as well.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:35 am

Any points in the world EK don't want to fly to? Big grin

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:45 am

Believe it or not, last week Emirates met with Ecuadorian Aviation officials to get approval for routes to Ecuador from Dubai... Of course, is not that they will start flying them just yet, but they want to have the authority on the routes for future expansion or use them with cooperation with a local airline... EK does think GLOBAL...
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 3):
EK does think GLOBAL

The question of who is the current day Pan Am is asked on here quite frequently. If half of EK's asperations transpire, then they certain should be in the running.

Anyway, I would think that TUN and ALG should fit in nicely to the network.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
This would be great, and it would be great competition in the Europe-LatAm market which is dominated by Iberia and Varig

Yup, Europeans will happily fly 8 hrs East to fly 17 hours west.
I'd suggest EK are aiming at the Asia-S.America market here
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:17 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
Yup, Europeans will happily fly 8 hrs East to fly 17 hours west.



It could be worse! I'd do it, if the price & service is right.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:13 am

I always knew IAH was on the wish list but before LAX and SFO?
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:29 am

I know CO and EK codeshare via LGW. I wonder if the proposed route to IAH from Dubai will offer a codeshare too?

Seems logical unless CO has aspirations of serving Dubai on their own metal.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting Atnight (Reply 3):
Believe it or not, last week Emirates met with Ecuadorian Aviation officials to get approval for routes to Ecuador from Dubai... Of course, is not that they will start flying them just yet, but they want to have the authority on the routes for future expansion or use them with cooperation with a local airline... EK does think GLOBAL...

Dont see that route very profitable, and if so, it wont last. the day I see it land, an EMIRATES plane ehre in Ecaudor... that day, Atnight, Ill buy you a six pack  Wink
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:31 pm

I really think Emirates could use their Bangkok stop more productively to tap new markets.

If they rearranged their DXB-BKK-SYD and DXB-BKK-HKG schedules a little, they could tap into the huge HK-Australia market by offering a HKG-BKK-SYD/MEL etc connection.

They would surely do extremely well with that given the high premium fares charged for HK-Australia services.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:32 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
I think many people would prefer flying an hour or two longer through DXB if it's at the same pric

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:53 pm

I wonder if EK or any other Gulf carrier is ever interested in exploring Central America, maybe even MEX. If they do consider Central America as a potential market in the mid-term, my best guess would be that SJO and PTY would be prime candidates (with PTY being the more likely choice I reckon).
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:31 pm

Anymore EK routes to AKL in the near future, DXB-AKL non stop or via Asia?
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:38 pm

Maybe DXB-CNS-AKL might be possible. I know that the AKL-CNS route is quite high in demand (or is it?) but it would be good for EK to open up a new Australia route as well as another service to AKL. Might be very possible.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 9):
Dont see that route very profitable, and if so, it wont last. the day I see it land, an EMIRATES plane ehre in Ecaudor... that day, Atnight, Ill buy you a six pack

I don't think they will actually fly the route themselves (maybe for the next world cup in Africa, they could use a special charter or something, since they are the official airline), BUT maybe in the future, they will do a codeshare with one of Ecuador's airlines and connect pax via Argentina or Brazil... who knows... but it won't be anytime soon.... I do hope to see your invitation one day, more so just to see an EK plane land... that would be the DAY!
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:16 pm

Quoting Fuffla (Reply 14):
Maybe DXB-CNS-AKL might be possible. I know that the AKL-CNS route is quite high in demand (or is it?) but it would be good for EK to open up a new Australia route as well as another service to AKL. Might be very possible.

They applied for PER-AKL and were denied, I believe they are onl allowed 28 weekly Trans Tasman flights which they are at now . Knowing EK they would like to fly to CNS and DRW aswell sometime. I'm thinking that they might consider something like DXB-KUL-DRW-CNS. First they have to secure more landing rights in Australia though.

NZ are the the only airline flying AKL-CNS, they do it 4x weekly, it has increased over time and will continue to. Not the highest demand but it has grown from 1 weekly flight a few years ago.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:18 pm

what about a service to EDI or is that asking too much?
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:34 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 17):
what about a service to EDI or is that asking too much?

EK are expected add an EDI flight or go double daily to GLA in the next year or so
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:39 pm

Are there any news if EK is going to start a route to MAD or BCN? Maybe a DXB-MAD-MEX or similar would have enough demand to be operated...
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:42 pm

Is Dublin a possibility or not now that EI will be leaving Oneworld probably meaning the relationship between EK and EI is only bound to get bigger?

In terms of AKL, I think EK might fly ADL-AKL before DRW or CNS although a direct DRW-AKL would be great, sepcially if it extended onto KUL as only MH is serving this market direct. I thought NZ was open skies meaning that EK didn't have any restrictions on NZ's sides of things. Is it Australia who are not letting EK fly PER-AKL?
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:55 pm

Isn't TIP already combined with MLA ? The TUN and ALG services would be combined together, or maybe with FCO, NCE or MXP, or the Iberic peninsula...who knows !!!
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:23 pm

Few months ago I heard some rumors about new EK services to BUD and/or PRG, and SZG. Maybe they also mentioned OTP?!

Does somebody know anything about those potential routes? At least a seasonal BUD flight would make sense, as currently the demand for travelling and visiting Dubai is getting bigger and bigger in Hungary...
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:43 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 20):
I thought NZ was open skies meaning that EK didn't have any restrictions on NZ's sides of things. Is it Australia who are not letting EK fly PER-AKL?

I think it is open skies. I think it probably is the Australian side that are blocking PER-AKL but at the same time there may have been a limit on how many flights they could operate across the Tasman, EK are free to operate a more direct service to DXB either non stop or via Asia though.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:05 pm

Let's hope we will finally see EK flying pax to/from AMS anytime soon.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:41 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
Anymore EK routes to AKL in the near future, DXB-AKL non stop or via Asia?

Did EK ever try MEL - CHC??

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 20):
In terms of AKL, I think EK might fly ADL-AKL

That would be a good idea as both QF and NZ have 3 weekly service from ADL to AKL.

I think currently EK have codeshare flights out Gatwick with CO. Will they keep this codeshare going once they start the service to Houston.
If EK did serve Houston would it be via European city or direct??
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:02 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 25):

Did EK ever try MEL - CHC??

Yes they did and dropped the route ..It was replaced with chc-syd
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:05 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 25):
If EK did serve Houston would it be via European city or direct??

Well n/s is 7,097NM and the 773ER can do 7,880NM. It's possible they would go n/s but that would be one long flight, 15-16hrs?
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:08 pm

Well it is nice to see that we (IAH) are still on EK's radar. Perhaps in some 5-10 years time they just might grace us with their presence.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:44 pm

Thomasphoto60

How about late 2007  Smile
IAH is being looked at along with SFO as one of the first routes with the B777-200LR whose deliveries will commence from end of September 2007.

There are 8 destinations planned for April 2007 - March 2008.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:59 pm

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 29):
Thomasphoto60

How about late 2007 Smile
IAH is being looked at along with SFO as one of the first routes with the B777-200LR whose deliveries will commence from end of September 2007.

Well if this bares out, I just might have to book a flight to the UAE. It has been some 11 years since my last visit to the Gulf and this would provide a good reason to make a trip back.

Thanks Emirates777, many IAH suppoters are keeping their fingers crossed that one of EK's beautiful birds will soo be seen in the skies over 'Space City USA' very soon.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:13 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
It could be worse! I'd do it, if the price & service is right.

Both EK and their service suck!
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:16 am

So there's no more talk of a DXB-MAN-IAH routing sooner than later?

I'll take anything...

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 31):
Both EK and their service suck

Yeah they do suck on trans tasman flights but they offer some cheap fares compared to NZ and QF
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
This would be great, and it would be great competition in the Europe-LatAm market which is dominated by Iberia and Varig, both with a less mediocre Y class product.

Well, if you call that dominating the market...apart from IB and RG we have:

AF daily to BOG, CCS, GRU (will be upgraded), GIG, EZE and 5xw to SCL.
KL daily to UIO, GYE, LIM and GRU.
LH daily to GRU, CCS, EZE.
BA daily to GRU and EZE, 3xw to GIG.
LX 5xw to SCL.
AV daily BOG-MAD, 2xw BOG-BCN, 2xw CLO-MAD.
AR 2x daily EZE-MAD, 2xw EZE-BCN, 4xw EZE-FCO
LA daily SCL-MAD, continues to FRA 3xw, 3xw GYE-MAD.
JJ 2x daily GRU-CDG, starts GRU-LON soon

There´s also smaller operators such as UX, Air Plus and Air Madrid.

So there´s plenty of competition.

UAE officials have come to sign new bilaterals with many latin american countries. I hope we see EK here is a couple of years.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 34):

And as of june 1st a new player: BRA running 2x weekly GRU-GIG-MAD and GIG-GRU-LIS. Those are the first regular routes of the new player on Brazil-Europe market. Prices seems to be very good , around US$ 850 on High season for a RT.

I'm getting more info, and will start a thread with complete info.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:46 am

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 21):
Isn't TIP already combined with MLA ?

I think MLA has changed and is now operated to via LCA in code-share with KM.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:55 am

I for one, can't understand why they would be interested in a place like Copenhagen or in Scandinavia. There is nothing in this part of the world or any ties at all to the Arab World.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:23 am

Well, the Aviation Authorities of the Emirate of Dubai, proposed two years ago, an open skies agreement between U.A.E and Chile, to open the Dubai.Santiago route as soon is possible. According with Emirates people, Emirates will interested to open 3 destination in Latin America: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires and Santiago, using probably an A340-500.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:32 am

Confirmation today that EK will operate a new service from DXB to JFK via HAM, starting later this year (August, I think).

Always good to hear of new routes. Despite EI having started on the DUB-DXB route, there are still reports of EK looking at DUB ... and not necessarily in competition with EI. Aer Lingus has adjusted its DXB timetable, particularly on the westbound leg (new dep. 0730, from Nov) to take feed from EK flights.

There are also expectations of a much closer relationship between EI and EK, but what shape this will take is anyone's guess: as long as EK starts flying to DUB, I'll be happy - for now!
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:00 am

@BoeingFever777
"Well n/s is 7,097NM and the 773ER can do 7,880NM."

NM is ground distance, which is irrelevant in terms of airplane-range.Airplanes are flying NAM (Nautical-Air-Miles) which are based on actual head or tailwinds.That could be a completely different ground-distance.

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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Zen100 (Reply 37):
I for one, can't understand why they would be interested in a place like Copenhagen or in Scandinavia. There is nothing in this part of the world or any ties at all to the Arab World.

CPH or ARN are definitely interesting destinations for a major carrier like Emirates. Don't forget Scandinavia belongs to Europe's wealthiest regions.


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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting Dean (Reply 22):
Few months ago I heard some rumors about new EK services to BUD and/or PRG, and SZG. Maybe they also mentioned OTP?!

I could see DXB-PRG, and maybe even BUD. SZG and OTP I don't so much see anytime soon.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:22 pm

Any news about PNH Phnom Penh Cambodia, have heard they secured traffic rights and a few rumours from pilots, seems unlikely though.
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:49 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 33):

Yeah they do suck on trans tasman flights but they offer some cheap fares compared to NZ and QF

No they don't, NZ and QF fares are consistantly cheaper than EK (EK has different fare structure, once it all totals up with the extra fee's etc they are more expensive most of the time), EK does however offer a longhaul product on a shorthaul route.
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:37 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 44):
No they don't, NZ and QF fares are consistantly cheaper than EK (EK has different fare structure, once it all totals up with the extra fee's etc they are more expensive most of the time),

In economy they do but not in business. QF and NZ have cheaper fares but the taxes, levies and surcharges makes it look a bit more expensive.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 44):
EK does however offer a longhaul product on a shorthaul route

Yes and its pathetic too. NZ's Tasman Express on occassion seems a lot better the EK's economy product
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:06 pm

I would like to see Emirates expand their American operations. Can they get a code share with one of the American Majors? I would think United or AA would be a good fit for a Code Share.

Emirates then could fly SFO, LAX, JFK, MIA, IAD, ORD and get connections anywhere in the US

Your thoughts?
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:14 pm

Quoting GoBlue (Reply 46):
Can they get a code share with one of the American Majors? I would think United or AA would be a good fit for a Code Share.

Well Goblue EK currently codeshare with CO from LGW to Houston. I wonder whether they will keep this codeshare going after they start Houston service?
 
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:07 pm

Quoting GoBlue (Reply 46):
I would like to see Emirates expand their American operations. Can they get a code share with one of the American Majors? I would think United or AA would be a good fit for a Code Share.

AA already share with GF and RJ will be coming into OneWorld soon enough, so I don't see EK codesharing with AA...that being said, I think PK would be very successful if they codeshare with AA...
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RE: New Emirates Routes

Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:08 pm

VHVXB,

You think there would be a chance they could expand this codeshare from Continentials Hub airports, and hopefully increase their coverage in the United States. I still see them flying to the 10 major US airports, ORD,JFK,MIA,SFO,LAX,IAD,DFW,DEN,IAH and ATL. Just because they have the aircraft to do it, and the financial flexibilty to do low yield routes

Jason