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Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:39 am

The recent crash of Pat Robertson's Lear 35 made me wonder how many other famous television evangelists own or operate their private aircraft.
http://www.nbc4.com/news/9313955/detail.html

Does anyone know which televangelists or large churches actually own jet aircraft?

Jerry Falwell operates a Citation III N71LU, as part of his Liberty University.

I had heard that Kenneth Copeland has recently purchased a Citation X. He is asking his followers to join him in "Spreading the word around the world at Mach .92". He is asking for $2,000 donations to support his EliteCX team.
http://www.elitecxteam.org/

Per Landings.com, Copeland's Citation X is SN 240 N1962J is registered to Eagle Mountain International Church of Newark, TX.
Eagle Mountain Church also owns the following aircraft:
Gulfstream II-SP, N104VV
Cessna 421B, N1223H

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According to landings.com, Kenneth Copeland personally owns the following aircraft in care of Kenneth Copeland Industries of Newark, TX:
North American T-28B Trojan, N28VV
Beech Baron E-55, N413KG
Stearman B75N1, N450KG

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Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:31 am


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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:48 am

Ken Copeland Ministries not only owns remarkably nice aircraft, they own the airport at which they are based, too. http://www.airnav.com/airport/4T2
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:56 am

Quoting CitationJet (Thread starter):
The recent crash of Pat Robertson's Lear 35

You would have thought that with his connections to a higher power, he would have seen it coming!
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:17 am

Gordon B. Hinckley uses Jon Huntsman Sr. Jet on trips. I can't find any pictures and I don't know the type. I have actually wondered what type for a while now...

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,270019062,00.html
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:19 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
You would have thought that with his connections to a higher power, he would have seen it coming!

Maybe he did........that's why he wasn't on board.  Wink
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:22 am

Quoting Sushka (Reply 4):
Gordon B. Hinckley uses Jon Huntsman Sr. Jet on trips. I can't find any pictures and I don't know the type. I have actually wondered what type for a while now...

Jon Hunstman owns A GIII and a GIV. He lets Pres. Hinckley fly on the GIV. I once flew on his III a few years back for work, it was nice but sure wish I could take a look at the IV.
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:38 am

Thanks Skip17. Do you know the regs?
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:16 am

i wish i new the name of the guy, but we have a preacher that flies on a personal G3, N302ST. they're based in SBN and pay rent for the hangar, but haven't been home in about 2 months, maybe longer.

benny hinn(sp) flew into SBN on a G4...don't know the reg
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:47 pm

According to Kenneth Copeland's website,
"As you know, Gloria and I have been believing God for a Cessna Citation X so that we can better fulfill the calling of Kenneth Copeland Ministries—to take the Word of God to the world—from the top to the bottom and all the way around."
And he is "Spreading the word around the world at Mach .92".

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

Looking at his trips since March, the Citation X has taken the word of God to Vancouver, Las Vegas, Chicago, Ft. Lauderdale.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1962J/history

Since February, his Gulfstream II-SP has traveled to Vail, Colorado to take the word to the skiers twice in March, to Shannon Ireland, and Los Angeles among others.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N104VV/history

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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:21 pm

Wasn't there a guy who owns a 747SP based in Akron OH? Owning a church must be a good business in the US, tax free and regular income and probably people working free of charge, or al

most, to make sure the next Gulfstream can be paid for.

Reminds me of my favorite prayer:

Oh Lord won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz
My friends all drive Porsches
I must make amends
I wait for delivery each day until three
Oh Lord, won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz.

If Janis would still be alive, she might have changed the lyrics to "Citation Jet". and " My Friends all fly Gulfstreams"

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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:22 pm

Does Ernest Angley still have his B747SP ?


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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:23 pm

Benny Hinn has his famous Gulfstream III, bought through charitable donations to "spread the gospel to the needy".

Yeah right!
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:50 pm

Why don't Joel and Victoria Olsteen of Lakewood Church in Houston own one? After her wonderful little spat with a CO f/a last December, I would almost think the FAA would require one of them!
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:42 pm

God told me that I need a 767-400. I am now accepting 4000 Dollar donations.
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:28 am

WOW

You can donate $2,000 and help buy someone a Citation X so he can go on vacations.


that's ridiculous! I'm with Sushka, I'm also accepting donations for a new boat! I need Orange II, the fastest boat there is, to spread the word of sailing all over the place!

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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:27 am

Slogan for all of them: "On a wing and a prayer."
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting Sushka (Reply 14):
God told me that I need a 767-400. I am now accepting 4000 Dollar donations.

Actually this is what people that make a living off the church do. Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about priests I'm talking about people that are in the business of selling religion. It is surprisingly easy to get money from people in the name of god. After all giving money to the chuch one way to get rid of you sins. I know this because I have a friend that does this sort of work. He pays no taxes and gets to travel around not a bad gig. Not only does he bring money to the church but he also convinces rich believers to give him free stuff in the name of god. We've been to several cabins up in the ski resorts for free just because of him, I'm not complaining.
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:47 am

Quoting Sushka (Reply 7):
Thanks Skip17. Do you know the regs?


Not off the top of my head. I'll try and find them!
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:55 am

Why do they even need airplanes?

If these guys can make the blind see, and cure cancer, then flapping their arms and flying from their cockamamie Southern HQs to wherever should be a breeze (so to speak).
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:01 am

Why is the B-747-SP called Star Triple Seven? Doesn't make sense to me.

I used to work for Korean Air and Benny Hinn and his flock of staff used to fly to Korea on us. They ONLY flew in F class and he wanted all the miles to be credited to his DL FQTV account.

The guy is a crook, big time !!

When I would go make sales calls to the travel agency, located on-site at his ministry headquarters, descretely located in Grapevine, Texas, without ANY signage WHATSOEVER on the building, I had to be escorted back to the travel agency by a security guard. Geesh !!
 
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:11 am

I'm not sure what type of aircraft he flies, but we recently leased some ramp space, as well as the area to build a hangar, to Jesse Duplantis.

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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:17 am

Quoting JetCaptain (Reply 11):
Does Ernest Angley still have his B747SP ?

as far as i know............yes.



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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:24 am

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 15):
that's ridiculous!

Be careful, that opinion can get you told you look like a buffoon and are incapable of doing anything other than bang on a keyboard. Apparenlty a.netters are unqualified to make a judgement of whether or not that's ridiculous. (Glad I'm not the only one who does, I was starting to wonder.)
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:05 am

Quoting Sushka (Reply 4):
Gordon B. Hinckley uses Jon Huntsman Sr. Jet on trips. I can't find any pictures and I don't know the type. I have actually wondered what type for a while now...

Gordon B. Hinckley is hardly the same type of Televangelist that Pat Robertson is  footinmouth  or Kenneth Copland  rotfl  or Joel and Victoria Olsteen  hissyfit  LOL!
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:10 am

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 17):
Actually this is what people that make a living off the church do. Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about priests I'm talking about people that are in the business of selling religion. It is surprisingly easy to get money from people in the name of god. After all giving money to the chuch one way to get rid of you sins. I know this because I have a friend that does this sort of work. He pays no taxes and gets to travel around not a bad gig. Not only does he bring money to the church but he also convinces rich believers to give him free stuff in the name of god. We've been to several cabins up in the ski resorts for free just because of him, I'm not complaining.

 Angry  devil   dollarsign   dollarsign   dollarsign  That is what I mean about the difference between Gordon B. Hinckley and Pat "Preach for Filthy Lucre--I'm a star" Robertson.
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:14 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 24):
Gordon B. Hinckley is hardly the same type of Televangelist that Pat Robertson is


But he does appear on TV.  Smile

Yeah not to bash anybody at all... but seriously the 2000 dollar donations could be put to much better use like helping the people who consider him a great person in third world countries. Isn't that what being a Christian or any other religion is all about? Just stating the obvious.
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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:17 pm

Does EWTN (Eternal Word Television Network) own an aircraft?

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RE: Televangelists And Their Aircraft

Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:06 pm

Quoting Sushka (Reply 26):
But he does appear on TV.

Perhaps 2-3 times a year. Never on national TV pandering to his crowd for more money on the collection plate. He DOES NOT GET PAID from the tithe funds of the LDS Church. Similarly the church corporation has not purchased a Lear-jet for him like Robertson's 700 Club. Jon Huntsman Sr (Jon Huntsman Jr is Governor of Utah) merely loans him one of the his personal a/c to get around more easily in as pointed out above.
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