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Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:07 pm

It happened yesterday (June 5th). Does anyone know how it went? I can't wait to see any pictures, I sure hope there was someone to take some.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:14 pm

Actually the first flight was on Friday June 1st. I wasn't there but the load was pretty good. It looks like a moneymaker,
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:15 pm

Oh I thought it was the 5th. Anyway here is an article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/06/business/worldbusiness/06road.html
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:40 pm

DL88
SKD6/1/06 1740
ACD6/1/06 1739
SKA6/2/06 1025
ACA6/2/06 1102
Ship 1702 76L

That's one of the 76's with the new IFE (song-style) system.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:07 pm

I know this isn't of the utmost importance...but it's Delta Air Lines not Delta Airlines!
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 4):
but it's Delta Air Lines not Delta Airlines!

Actually it's just Delta these days, the 'Airlines" part was removed from the name a year or two back.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 5):
Actually it's just Delta these days, the 'Airlines" part was removed from the name a year or two back.

Um...well even though it's referred to as Delta...it's still "Delta Air Lines, Inc."
The "Air Lines" was removed from the logo in 2000.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:41 pm

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 6):
Um...well even though it's referred to as Delta...it's still "Delta Air Lines, Inc."
The "Air Lines" was removed from the logo in 2000.

Yes, Delta was just removed from the mainline logo. However, if you see Song aircraft, the sticker next to the boarding door says, "Operated by Delta Air Lines."

The company will never change to just Delta. You don't see Carnival Cruiseline just changing their name to Carnival. You don't see Greyhound Buslines changing their name to Greyhound. You need to let it be known what product you offer.



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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 1):
Actually the first flight was on Friday June 1st. I wasn't there but the load was pretty good. It looks like a moneymaker,

Just because the flight went out full, doesn't make it a money maker.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 7):
Yes, Delta was just removed from the mainline logo.

So the airline doesn't have a name anymore... just the widget?

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 9):
What is this he is talking about?

DL's refreshed BusinessElite product - improved seat, AVOD IFE, new meals - is gradually being rolled out on the 763ER fleet. The JFK-KBP flight got one of the three 763ERs outfitted with the revamped Business product. An additional 8 will be converted by the end of June.

Does anyone know whether these 763ERs with the new BE set-up are being targeted for specific routes or are they just used randomly all over the system and for inaugurals?
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting Panamair (Reply 11):
DL's refreshed BusinessElite product - improved seat, AVOD IFE, new meals - is gradually being rolled out on the 763ER fleet. The JFK-KBP flight got one of the three 763ERs outfitted with the revamped Business product. An additional 8 will be converted by the end of June.

Are they refurbishing them in ATL?

Quoting Panamair (Reply 11):
Does anyone know whether these 763ERs with the new BE set-up are being targeted for specific routes or are they just used randomly all over the system and for inaugurals?

I was wondering the same thing.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 8):
Just because the flight went out full, doesn't make it a money maker.

True. But as an international, trans-atlantic flight with basically no competition --- if the loads are good it should definitely be a money maker. (and if it isn't, DL should be firing people in revenue management...it's not like this is JFK-FLL where losing money on full flights is the norm)
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Dartland (Reply 13):
...it's not like this is JFK-FLL where losing money on full flights is the norm)

Then why does DL continue to operate 4 or 5 757s a day on this run...Even after Song is gone?
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 14):
Then why does DL continue to operate 4 or 5 757s a day on this run...Even after Song is gone?

It's part of having a complete network and a presence in the NY market. In theory at least, NY-based frequent flyers will stay loyal to DL for business trips and trips on the real moneymaking flights (e.g., Europe) if they know they can also count on DL to get them to FLL or LAS on vacation.

There is also connecting traffic--those FLL flights feed people onto the more profitable international flights.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:53 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
Then why does DL continue to operate 4 or 5 757s a day on this run...Even after Song is gone?

Because planes being used are better than planes not being used. Because they need the people on those planes to connect to profitable routes. Because they earn and maintain loyalty from many overall highly profitable customers by flying those routes. Because during peak travel periods they can make money on those routes. Etc. Etc. Etc.

All I'm saying is that on highly competitive routes, you often seen flights that lose money on an absolute route by route basis (note that doesn't mean the airline should stop flying them, as they contribute revenue to the rest of the system and may be profitable on a purely variable basis).

My point in this thread is that on routes that have little competition and are international, revenue premiums should be high enough for an airline to make money on an absolute basis so long as loads are high, as RM would price the flight to make money since they are not fare matching to maintain share like they would do in highly competitive market.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 14):
It's part of having a complete network and a presence in the NY market. In theory at least, NY-based frequent flyers will stay loyal to DL for business trips and trips on the real moneymaking flights (e.g., Europe) if they know they can also count on DL to get them to FLL or LAS on vacation.

I guess that makes sense. But are frequent fliers really throwing down serious miles for free tickets on flight that are ~$69 each way?!

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 14):
There is also connecting traffic--those FLL flights feed people onto the more profitable international flights.

5 757s a day instead of an RJ like MIA gets?!
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 5):
Actually it's just Delta these days, the 'Airlines" part was removed from the name a year or two back.

According to the FAA:

DELTA AIR LINES INC

Operator is doing business as
1. DELTA
2. DELTA AIR LINES
3. DELTA AIR LINES, INC.
4. DELTA EXPRESS
5. DELTA SHUTTLE
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:55 am

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 8):
Just because the flight went out full, doesn't make it a money maker.

This was a DL flight, not B6.
(just referring to pax revenue)
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 8):
Just because the flight went out full, doesn't make it a money maker.

Of course not, but according to people at DL loads are great and the fares are very high, which in most cases does mean it's a money maker. Being the only carrier on a route with a great demand is a good thing.

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 19):
Being the only carrier on a route with a great demand is a good thing.

Actually AeroSvit also flies the route.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 10):
DL's refreshed BusinessElite product - improved seat, AVOD IFE, new meals - is gradually being rolled out on the 763ER fleet. The JFK-KBP flight got one of the three 763ERs outfitted with the revamped Business product. An additional 8 will be converted by the end of June.

Anybody see the TOC ramp at ATL lately? Somebody should snap a pic of it....its very full with 763's and Song 757's (as of Sunday 6/4 anyway).
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting Airzim (Reply 20):
Actually AeroSvit also flies the route.

And that twice weekly, which is sure to be very attractive to business travellers  Wink .
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:00 am

DL is still not the ONLY carrier to fly the route! What's your point?
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:07 am

Quoting B777ER (Reply 21):
Anybody see the TOC ramp at ATL lately? Somebody should snap a pic of it....its very full with 763's and Song 757's (as of Sunday 6/4 anyway).

Isn't it usually? Or are they trying to refurbish many at once?
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting Airzim (Reply 23):
DL is still not the ONLY carrier to fly the route! What's your point?

In America anyway, passengers are going to be more willing to fly Delta than AeroSvit. Also for government, government officials flying to the Ukraine will now only fly DL since there's usually an exclusivity for flying on national airlines when flying internationally.

Knowing you you'll probably state that DL will be unsuccessful on the route and that management made a poor decision and blah blah blah. We're ready for it when it starts.

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:06 am

what routing will this flight take to kiev , over scotland perhaps?
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:17 am

I'm glad to hear the flight went well. I'll probably take this flight a few times in the future to visit family in Kiev. Believe me, this flight will be successful. Many passengers are forced to take many connections to get to Kiev, this new service will improve that. Last January I had to fly through JFK and CDG to get to Kiev. Now, that extra stop can be eliminated.

Does anyone have any picture of the new BizElite cabin?!

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:24 am

is the aircraft a 767 or 777?
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 26):
what routing will this flight take to kiev , over scotland perhaps?

I would guess it depends on where the NAT's are that day, and a whole host of things especially including winds aloft and such.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:47 am

Does anyone have exact load info?
Were they able to get a jetway at KBP?
Any other updates? The 767 has song IFE in Y?
Congratulations to Delta, and good luck to them at Kiev! Fares are high, and loads seem to be; which should equal success. If AeroSvit had more 767s, I'm sure they'd fly more frequencies into JFK.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 25):
Quoting Airzim (Reply 23):
DL is still not the ONLY carrier to fly the route! What's your point?

In America anyway, passengers are going to be more willing to fly Delta than AeroSvit. Also for government, government officials flying to the Ukraine will now only fly DL since there's usually an exclusivity for flying on national airlines when flying internationally.

Knowing you you'll probably state that DL will be unsuccessful on the route and that management made a poor decision and blah blah blah. We're ready for it when it starts.

Do you work for Fox News? Nice attempt to spin reality to suit your own agenda.

You said no one else flies the route. I pointed out that isn't true. Then you try and qualify your statement about what you think most American's prefer. I didn't bring up anything else. I didn't trash Delta. Slightly defensive?
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:00 am

Quoting B777ER (Reply 21):
Anybody see the TOC ramp at ATL lately? Somebody should snap a pic of it....its very full with 763's and Song 757's (as of Sunday 6/4 anyway).

As a matter of fact I know exactly what your talking about. I was there on Sunday 6/4 flying CMH-ATL-RIC and you're right I saw multiple 757's and 767's in Delta colors and one Song 757 waiting on the ramp. Maybe there was an MD-88 there as well.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:07 am

The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:12 am

Only 25% of the people sitting on J are on full fare tickets? I know that's true domestically...but I thought int'l was more like 75%...
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 34):
Only 25% of the people sitting on J are on full fare tickets?

That's the real full fare (in J inventory) they are talking about. There are others who pay Business Class fares but at the discounted level (i.e., D and I fares). The latter two are lower and more restrictive (e.g., many I fares from the US to Europe require 50 day advance purchase and a 7 day minimum stay).
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:46 am

Even if they're paying D, it's still $2800 +
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:52 am

Quoting Sushka (Thread starter):
I can't wait to see any pictures, I sure hope there was someone to take some.

Two of us were out there at JFK for the inaugural flight. Check out http://www.pbase.com/joshandbrian/deltasong061006jfk . We don't have any pictures of the interior of the plane, though.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:28 am

Very cool pictures thanks. I would love to see it on the ground in Borispol too. Im sure the flight will be succesful.
My trips to Kiev have been through VIE and FRA before. Zurich too I think.

[Edited 2006-06-07 03:30:06]
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:45 pm

I'm wondering if they got a jetway at KBP. As you know, they only have two  Smile

I've flown through Amsterdam, Zurich, Vienna, and non-stop to Kiev from NYC.

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 1):
I wasn't there but the load was pretty good. It looks like a moneymaker,

The flight was most likely full of press and dignitaries flying for no charge. No way on Earth tell to judge any route's viability based on first day's (or even first month's) performance.
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:04 pm

And dont forget DL is starting service on 8JUN to UIO and GYE !
Daily with a 757

FLT INFO 195/08JUN- 9JUN
LOF ARR DEP ETA ON IN ETD OUT OFF SHP ELPD ACCUM MILES
ATL 455P 757
UIO 914P 1020P 757 5.19 2337
GYE 1124P 1230A 757 1.04 7.29 185
ATL 706A 5.36 14.11 2481

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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:07 pm

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 39):
I'm wondering if they got a jetway at KBP. As you know, they only have two

I've flown through Amsterdam, Zurich, Vienna, and non-stop to Kiev from NYC.

I think that this was one of the holdups to getting final clearance to the flight, but I'm assuming it's been taken care of now that the flight has started. If not, I would surely hope the situation would be fixed before winter.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:17 pm

Quoting Airplane (Reply 41):
And dont forget DL is starting service on 8JUN to UIO and GYE !
Daily with a 757

FLT INFO 195/08JUN- 9JUN
LOF ARR DEP ETA ON IN ETD OUT OFF SHP ELPD ACCUM MILES
ATL 455P 757
UIO 914P 1020P 757 5.19 2337
GYE 1124P 1230A 757 1.04 7.29 185
ATL 706A 5.36 14.11 2481

JP

With the latest weather were getting here these apst few days in UIO...., lets hope they make it in for their inagural flight Big grin ! Id wouldnt mind to see it divert to GYE first and come in the next morning, when there is light enough to photograph!
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:07 pm

Pictures from Kiev sent to me by someone. I wish I was there, hope to be soon!


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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:26 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 42):
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 39):
I'm wondering if they got a jetway at KBP. As you know, they only have two

I've flown through Amsterdam, Zurich, Vienna, and non-stop to Kiev from NYC.

I think that this was one of the holdups to getting final clearance to the flight, but I'm assuming it's been taken care of now that the flight has started. If not, I would surely hope the situation would be fixed before winter.

They did. That's what caused the delay to June 1.
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:01 pm

Quoting Sushka (Reply 44):
Pictures from Kiev sent to me by someone. I wish I was there, hope to be soon!

Nice pics....Any idea whose those dignitaries are?

Do Delta executives fly out for the opening of every new international route?
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting Sushka (Reply 44):
Pictures from Kiev sent to me by someone

Nice pics, thanks. Looks like they got the jetway.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 46):
Do Delta executives fly out for the opening of every new international route?

Not on every one, probably just the 'important' or auspicious ones. COO Jim Whitehurst was on hand for the JFK-KBP inaugural, for example. ATL-TLV was another one where I believe some high-level exec(s) was there; you can bet that when ATL-JNB starts, they will be out in full force....
 
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:30 pm

Quoting Panamair (Reply 47):
Not on every one, probably just the 'important' or auspicious ones. COO Jim Whitehurst was on hand for the JFK-KBP inaugural, for example. ATL-TLV was another one where I believe some high-level exec(s) was there; you can bet that when ATL-JNB starts, they will be out in full force....

Do you by any chance know who was there for ATL-ATH?
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RE: Delta Airlines First Flight To Kiev

Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:33 pm

I wonder if the flight will pick up business from Odessa and/or Moldova?

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