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Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:21 am

I just read "Plane Insanity" by Elliott Hester, one chapter that really caught my attention it was about a flight his airline operated that they deemed the San Juan Special, from JFK. Passengers gambling, drinking their own booze, and a fist fight breaking out. Anyone have any stories about rowdy out of control flights like this?

This is a pretty entertaining book by the way for anyone who wants to check it it out you can read a bit on Amazon.com...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031...-2941739?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
Cheers thanks a lot.
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:10 am

I read a little of a book called "around the world in a bad mood, confessions of a flight attendant" by Rene Foss. It's quite funny, and it includes some of the things the crew says when they're ovestressed.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078...-7338828-2999959?v=glance&n=283155
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:13 am

I'll go with most flights to Vegas...

Wasted passengers singing in the back of the plane at the top of their lungs, one guy getting up on final approach to go to the bathroom, landing in the bathroom and hearing a loud "thud" after we touched down, only to be followed by the door swinging open and the drunk standing there with a huge grin on his face...

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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:14 am

In all the time I have been cabin crew, I have never had "rowdy" flights. I have the once-in-a-while passenger bring their own alcohol. When alcohol was free, the occasional "appears to be" intoxicated passenger getting rambunctious reared their ugly head (now that there is a charge, it is few and far between that this happens). Our HNL-SYD flights were notorious for being drank dry. That's all the alcohol in economy, business and first (when we had it).

VERY RARELY had to call local authorities, except for the mentally imbalanced customers who made the flight hell, for rowdy people.

It's even more rare now.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:43 am

Every flight I ever took with Southwest was what I would deem rowdy, what with the singing and general nonsense. NOT TO MENTION HERDING TO THE JETWAY BEFORE THE FLIGHT! SHEESH!
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting Mikefad (Reply 4):
Every flight I ever took with Southwest was what I would deem rowdy, what with the singing and general nonsense. NOT TO MENTION HERDING TO THE JETWAY BEFORE THE FLIGHT! SHEESH!

This is a blog about rowdy flights, not a blog to take an overly generalized swipe at a carrier you obviously don't like.
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:36 am

Any flight with a girl's high school or college sports team on board is a rowdy flight.
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:53 am

I remember a trip I took LHR to YYZ back in '97 on an AC 767. There was some guy about 10 rows forward of me in Y who purchased a bottle of Whiskey from duty free, and drank most of it in the first 2 or 3 hours of the flights. When the F/A attempted to take it from him, he started to get rowdy and threatening, raising his voice etc. Two or three rather large guys who were sat in the vicinity stood up ready to protect the F/A, as well as another male F/A who came to get involved, and the passenger realized quickly he was outnumbered, sat down, and slept his drunkesness of for the remaining 5 or 6 hours. Pretty amusing.

Another time was just this February on a BA 747 LHR to LAX. There were a group of 20 or so college girls who had been drinking before getting on the plane. I got chatting to a few of them (the good looking ones), and they were all acting school students who were on a college trip to Hollywood. As soon as drinks were served on board, they all had a couple of vodkas, then when the 'free-for-all bar' was set up in the galley (in typical lazy BA fashion, imo), there were girls literally returning with a tray of 7 or 8 vodkas and orange juices every 15 minutes or so. They then preceeded to gather in the aisle, talking loudly and laughing, a couple of them even started dancing (!!). I was literally seconds from hitting the attendent call button to shut them up and sit them down when we hit turbulence and the seatbelt sign was on for a while. By the time the captain switched the seatbelt sign off, they were all sound asleep, bless them. But then one of them was clearly quite drunk and managed to wake herself by puking down herself. Nasty, but totally funny.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Mikefad (Reply 4):
Every flight I ever took with Southwest was what I would deem rowdy, what with the singing and general nonsense. NOT TO MENTION HERDING TO THE JETWAY BEFORE THE FLIGHT! SHEESH!

Must not have taken many flights with them.
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:07 am

IVE NEVER FLOWN SOUTHWEST BUT I KNOW THEY MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE CATTLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD - ENOUGH JOKES ALREADY F/AS I THINK WE GET IT

Speaking of jokes... (the above is so no flaming!)

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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:21 am

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9):
ENOUGH JOKES ALREADY F/AS I THINK WE GET IT

I take WN a bit for commuting purposes and have seen or heard nothing but highly proefessional crews in the air and on the ground. Never a joke or funny p.a. was said.

As with rowdiness on the aircraft, maybe some people get out of hand because they think that they can get away with it, as in their behaviour.

I am 6', 250lbs (113kg), flattop and beard and can look menacing (prop forward in rugby) if need be. I am all about having a good time onboard, but I have said many times that the minute your fun gets out of, I am going to shut it down. In the same breath, I also say (just to those having said fun) I can be a dick if need be, lets not get to that point. 100% of the time, people are good with that and nothing gets out of hand.

It's all in how it's handled.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:26 am

Pretty much any discount holiday charter flight out of the UK to party spots. Having been on a couple let me assure you that the clientele are rough around the edges.

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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:22 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 10):
I take WN a bit for commuting purposes and have seen or heard nothing but highly proefessional crews in the air and on the ground. Never a joke or funny p.a. was said.

For the love of god, it was a joke, which I pointed out with this:

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9):
Speaking of jokes... (the above is so no flaming!)
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:31 am

Isn't this just a timely topic with the World Cup going on?

Certainly there have been many incidents with football hooligans.



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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:35 am

Our Alaskan members can back me up on this one.
Any flight out of King Salmon at the end of the salmon fishing season going back to Anchorage, or a charter to Seattle from canaries, fish camps always a big winner in terms of rowdiness.
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:32 pm

Some of our Boston flights get close to Jerry Springer territory. Imagine 117 drama queens with cell phones and shit don't stink attitudes being inconvenienced! One flight in particular where due to a bitch thunderstorm in BOS, the passengers had to sit out on the runway of course engines running. Our captain again and again explained the situation to them but, the captain's word wasn't good enough for those Boston folk. Upon arrival at BWI, we had a welcoming committee, the state's finest. A hand full of these passengers got special limo service to the state hotel!  banghead 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:35 pm

Everytime I have flown SEA-LAS on AS, it has been extremely rowdy. It didn't help on my last flight when the FA's gave out free booze (until the cart was empty) as an apology for delays.  Smile
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:15 pm

I can remember back when I was in 8th grade (1995), our class (of about 70 kids) went to DC (from LAS) on AA via DFW. Imagine 8 adults trying to heard 70 8th grade kids around. Plus our flights were red-eye so while people on the plane were trying to get some shut eye (including me), the bitchiest girls in the class were taking pictures (with the flash on) and being noisy all flight. Luckily that only lasted the first leg of the flight - after that the teachers would mix up the seat assignments and try to keep the different cliques apart. It worked well for the most part as the other three legs of the trip were more or less boring (since you sat next to people you didnt talk to much).
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:48 pm

Quoting DC10Widebody (Thread starter):
I just read "Plane Insanity" by Elliott Hester

Love that book!
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:51 am

I remember I flight to vegas I took a couple of years back on Northwest. My wife and I were swithcing planes and had to go from concourse C to concourse E (old terminal). When we get to E the airport bar was packed and very loud. We were joking about what a bunch of drunks they were to be smashed at 9am. When the announcement for boarding to Las Vegas was given the bar pretty much emptyed out. The whole flight was mostly a drunken party for most of the passengers. It was my first trip to Vegas and seemed appropriate that the flight was a party.....
 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:03 am

Most rowdy flight must have been on anet's favorite airline (sarcasm) Ryanair. Flew from STN to CIA, and the middle ten rows of the plane were all talking at the top of their lungs. I could hear people in the back of the cabin, and I was in the front. Their was one man who kept swearing and making stupid jokes, and when the flight attendant (Ryanair has them?  duck  Wink came to visit, he just yelled at her more. Oh well.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:11 am

The only rowdy flight I've ever had was on WN. I was flying BDL-BNA, and I was 2nd in the A line, my grandmother and my younger sister were in the ladies room when they called A group to board. Anyway, the guy ahead of me had an e-ticket that he printed at home which wouldn't go through the scanner. So the ticket agent pulled him aside and said she would take care of him after she boarded the A group. He was very agitated and mutters something under his breath containing a few "choice" words. So I board and take the first row bulkhead with the extra legroom, anyway I ask the F/A if it's all-right if I save the two other seats in the row for my grandmother and sister, she says "no problem" and I put a book and my bag on the other two seats. So the guy boards and after he notices the other bulkhead row is taken and the exit rows are taken he tries to move the bag and book:
"Excuse me sir, but I placed those books there to save those seats."
"Too bad, they aren't here"
"Sir, they are for my grandmother and sister who are in the bathroom"
"I don't care, I want to sit here, and I would be if it weren't for that damn idiot at the gate" (There are children nearby)
"Sir, don't use that language when children around"
"I'll say whatever the F!@# I want when I want" (He yells)
F/A: "Sir please vacate that seat, that gentlemen is saving them for members of his party in the restroom."
Man: "He can't do that, I was going to be on first, I'm sitting here"
Passenger: "Hey what's the deal that guy was in the seat first, stop acting like a neanderthal and find another seat"
Man: "That's it, (he swings his fist at me, I duck and it slams into the bulkhead) "Ahhh FU!@" (Me and the other passenger restrain him while the F/A calls for security. Cops come and arrest him for attempted assault. Week later when I get back I was served a subpoena and had to testify in court.)
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:20 am

We had a flight from FLL-LAS about 3 years ago, where the pax got so rowdy, 1 threw a beer can at the F/A and others threw food. It got so bad that the flight diverted to ABQ and 19 pax were arrested. Subsequently only 2 had charges pressed against them and the others were released. The 2 went to trial about 6 mos. later and were convicted. For once I was glad to see the airline follow through, in these matters. Most times pax get off with just a slap on the wrist, and/or a small fine.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:23 am

It's pretty sad the first thing that came to mind when I read this post's headline on the front page were trips to the Caribbean and it turns out your post was on San Juan in this example.

My parents are from the Dominican Republic (for those who don't know it's between Haiti and Puerto Rico)...

Dominicans can be loud! And often on flight from JFK/EWR to Puerto Plata, Santo Domingo or in the recent years, to Santiago... they misbehave! They just don't know how to act. Some get drunk, some disobey regulations, upon departure from the gate they don't seem to comprehend that they must stay in their seats (same for when we land -- and yes it happens on other flights as well, but when you try to tell someone who doesn't know English, it gets a bit more difficult.), etc.

... the most ironic part... flying for most Dominicans is still quite an exclusive affair. Most dress to impress and try to carry themselves with "dignity and respect" on these flights... but you can't judge a Dominican by their clothes and how they pretend to act :-P

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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:18 am

Quoting N484ER (Reply 23):
It's pretty sad the first thing that came to mind when I read this post's headline on the front page were trips to the Caribbean and it turns out your post was on San Juan in this example.

My parents are from the Dominican Republic (for those who don't know it's between Haiti and Puerto Rico)...

I'm not sure if it's considered part of the Carribean but, CAN is the REDNECK RIVIERA! I've heard stories about flights to this Mexican resort that would make Spuds McKenzie blush with envy!


Your CAN pax skew toward dudes with mullets! Who voted for W both times.  vomit 


And their floozy wives or girlfriends.




CAN flights are known for drinking, flighting, plenty of puking and mile high shenanigans.

It's usually these folk who shag and bare their evil spawn and then travel to MCO with too much checked baggage and of course during the school year when their miscreant offspring should be in class!  bouncy 
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:20 am

Zippy:

I think you meant CUN rather than CAN. From experience, you can only imagine what has gone on there. From what I understand both "Girls Gone Wild" and "Guys Gone Wild" have signifigant footage filmed in CUN clubs.
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RE: Rowdy Flights

Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:16 am

I have never had so much fun as my first trip down to Vegas on a WN flight from Reno. Yes, I had consumed a few adult beverages prior to boarding, but kept it under control. I was surrounded by a bunch of rowdy characters who kept me laughing the whole trip. The WN flight attendants were having more fun that we were and told several jokes over the PA system. After we touched down in LAS we were welcomed to Lost Wages.......


Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
Our Alaskan members can back me up on this one.
Any flight out of King Salmon at the end of the salmon fishing season going back to Anchorage, or a charter to Seattle from canaries, fish camps always a big winner in terms of rowdiness.

That brings back many memories. I lived in Fairbanks, Alaska from 1988 to 1998 and shuttled between FAI and the Lower 48 at least once or twice a year. Flights with inflight service within Alaska and between the Last Frontier and the Lower 48 had a reputation for passenger drunkenness. The southbound redeyes to SEA and northbound flights from SEA after 5pm where probably the worst. Many communities in rural Alaska are dry or damp (no alcohol sales or consumption allowed) so the beverage cart on AS flights are often the first or last sips of alcohol for many passengers. Same with the flights transporting oil workers up to Prudhoe Bay.
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