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Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 12:58 pm

As far as I know SAS is the only operator of the 736!!!???

Was is evidently not what the airlines needed, or what???

I really want to see one in person!!!

Is it more like a -300, -400, or -500???


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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 1:00 pm

Maybe orders will heat up once the A318 goes into service and Boeing can compare the two better.

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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 1:28 pm

SAS is NOT the only operator of the 736.
Lauda Air, and Tunisair both have the type in service.

104 have been ordered by SAS, Lauda, Tunis, Pembroke, ILFC, GECAS, and Air Algerie.
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Sun Jun 18, 2000 6:30 pm

The 737-600 is an updated version of the -500 and hence the -200. It has the same fuselage as the -500 with the updated NG wing and engines. Yes, it is true that 736 has had fewer orders so far than 73G or 738 but then that may just reflect the fact that 733 and 734 (direct ancestors of 73G and 738 respectively) outsold 735. It is, however, hard to say why that is so. All the same, who knows, 736 orders may eventually pick up.

 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Mon Jun 19, 2000 1:53 am

Don't forget people that the 736 does not have an Airbus competitor yet...

739 ~ 321,
738 ~ 320,
73G ~ 319,
736 ~ 318.

(One more reason I think the 318 will be a much poorer seller than other people on this board think...)


And yes, planes in the range of the 736 are poor sellers in general compared to planes that are just slightly larger. I think it has to do with that being the edge between mainline and express operations. (Too small for mainline, too large for express.) And the darn things are too heavy, just like the 318.
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Mon Jun 19, 2000 2:56 am

Another reason is Boeing's unwillingness to sell it to certain operators. Frontier tried to get there hands on a few but Boeing wouldnt let them order anything smaller then a -700...
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Mon Jun 19, 2000 11:53 pm

I would have thought CO would have got some...they have every other 737!!!  
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 1:23 am

Continental ordered 50 odd 737-500's in 1993 and has taken delivery
of all units by 1998. The 737-600 probably does not fit Continental's
immediate fleet requirements. The 737-300/500 are utilized on flight
routings that are 3 hours and under in most cases. The NG 737's in
the fleet (-700) are used for long-haul low density flights like Newark
to Vancouver, Caracas, or San Jose, Costa Rica as well as some flights
to Los Angeles during off-peak hours. The -800's are used as a high
capacity aircraft and on transcontinental flights. Some are used on
Caribbean routes as well.

 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 1:27 am

Westjet has over 70 737-600/-700 on order..first planes come around December or January
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RE: ContinentalEWR

Tue Jun 20, 2000 3:00 am

As to my surprise...

Continental is using the 737-700 between IND and EWR!!!

Continental is also using their 737-700's and 737-800's between IND and IAH!!!


I was really shocked when I saw that!!!
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 6:32 am

From SAN, CO uses 737-700s and 737-800s to Houston and Newark respectively, and they use 1 737-500 to Cleveland. These have replaced most of the Md80s and one or two of the 757s.

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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 7:16 am

And is that why Frontier chose Airbus instead?
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 8:00 am

737-600 should not be considered a dud even if orders seem rather low compared to -700 and -800.
737-600 is exactly a shortened 737-700, no more no less.
When second hand market of similar sized classic 737's runs dry in a few years time, then 737-600 orders will pick up.
Anyway the -600 will easily turn in profit at Seatle since "development" was little more than mating an existing classic 737 fuselage to 737NG wing and technology.
There is a need for airliners of all sizes. And there are thousands of planes of -600 size flying every day. When the old DC-9s and 737-200 finally has to be retired, then 737-600 will fill that gap.
The competing A318 will not fly until a few years into the future. I think that the timing of the A318 introduction was wisely closen. The "early" introduction of the 737-600 on the other hand may simply be because SAS wanted some 50 of them right away, and since the -700 already was there, then those -600's could be made almost overnight.
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 10:53 am

Could it also be that the -500 was just recently in production and therefore does not need a replacement yet? (same goes for even the -200, which is still being used!)
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 3:04 pm

600 a replacement for 200? Not for everybody, at least stateside. The 200 is an economical plane flown by sot conscious carriers. Bahamasair, Metrojet, Vangaurd, Delta Express, Westjet. Will these carriers upgrade to new equipment, or look for second hand replacements? Also, who are some other major 200 users, lets make a list

Bahamasair
Metrojet
Vanguard
Delta Express
Westjet
Aviacsa
Southwest
 
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RE: Why Was The 737-600 A Dud?

Tue Jun 20, 2000 3:57 pm

Who still uses the 737-200?
Canadi>n still has 44 of em!
USAirways/Metrojet - 59! (Some have been sold to Canjet)
Southwest - 34
America West - 14
United - 25 approx
Aloha - 19 some cargo
British
Air France
Lan Chile - 13
Aerolineas Argentinas - around 24
Varig and VASP

The list goes on and on..... I suppose these will all need to be replaced within the next 10 years.

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