7Seas
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ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:25 am

Sources are reporting that All Nippon will resume ORD-NRT passenger flights on October 29 having suspended the route since shortly after 9-11.
 
jacobin777
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:54 am

Quoting 7seas (Thread starter):
Sources are reporting that All Nippon will resume ORD-NRT passenger flights on October 29 having suspended the route since shortly after 9-11.

is the route needed? AA, UA, and JL probably are enough for that route.....

now ORD-HKG..that's a different story...UA has that route completely gangstered to itself....

I see CX starting that route before AA..though I think it would be a very good money-maker for AA
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:19 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
now ORD-HKG..that's a different story...UA has that route completely gangstered to itself....

I see CX starting that route before AA

Personally, I see AA starting the route first. Even though CX is a oneworld partner, AA has said that it currently wants to grow their Asian presence on their own metal, not those of partners.

Either way, that route needs more than just UA.
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7Seas
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:41 pm

AA,UA,JL, & ANA were all on the route before 9-11. JAL just went to double daily and is set to join Oneworld. UA has been double daily for several years and maybe they want another Star Alliance option on the route. In any case the ORD-NRT route is a strong market and growing. ANA should do well.

As far as ORD-HKG, I agree, another carrier should be in the market. CX freighters already call at ORD. It would be good to see them on the other side of the field as well.
 
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:03 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):

Personally, I see AA starting the route first. Even though CX is a oneworld partner, AA has said that it currently wants to grow their Asian presence on their own metal, not those of partners.

with AA not really having too many 777's and CX ordering a boatload, I think it would be CX will take on that route with a 777-300ER......

as we've agreed however, there is room for another carrier on the ORD-HKG route....

Quoting 7Seas (Reply 3):
UA has been double daily for several years

the UA double daily depends on the day of the week with

2x/daily on Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday.....(UA-829)...the rest of the days are 1x/daily...UA-895
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:46 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4):
with AA not really having too many 777's and CX ordering a boatload, I think it would be CX will take on that route with a 777-300ER......

Ageed, AA does not have the metal to fly that route at the moment. I am surprised CX has started already?!
 
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RE: ANA Returns To ORD

Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 5):
Ageed, AA does not have the metal to fly that route at the moment. I am surprised CX has started already?!

CX hasn't started because they don't have the needed planes (and won't have any to serve ORD until the 773ERs are delivered). CX has said in the past that as soon as they got the appropriate planes (read: those 16 773ERs), they will want to start ORD (and possibly DFW as well) due to the oneworld/AA connections at both airports.

Still, as much as I want to see CX at ORD's passenger ramp (and, to a lesser extent, the return of SQ and VS), I still have the feeling that we'll be seeing silverbirds flying between ORD to HKG before we see a CX 777 at Terminal 5. Remember that AA is discontinuing SJC-NRT and downgrading RDU-LGW to 763s, so AA may have the 772ERs needed for ORD-HKG.
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