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Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:09 am

Hello everyone! I have a question that I know can be answered on here.


I will be departing from PIT on June 30, 2006 for a PIT-PHL-RDU routing. I will be on the 7:00 AM departure from Pittsburgh. Does anyone know what aircraft the two segments are? What gates do the WN RDU bound flights usually depart from in PHL.

On the way home (July 4, 2006) I will be flying RDU-PHL-PIT on the 12:20 PM departure from RDU.

I also am not very familiar with the WN seating besides that they have an A, B, C, D, and E section. How do I get window seats?

Flight numbers:

PIT-PHL (2023)
PHL-RDU (1287)

RDU-PHL (1070)
PHL-PIT (641)

Any information will be appreciated! Thank you!

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:11 am

There are 3 boarding groups that you get in based on when you check in. They board the aircraft by group A, B, and then C. Once your group boards, you can get any open seat on the aircraft. The key to getting a seat you want is to check in early, and get in the A boarding group.
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting CentPIT (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what aircraft the two segments are?

Highly likely 737  Smile
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting CentPIT (Thread starter):
I also am not very familiar with the WN seating besides that they have an A, B, C, D, and E section. How do I get window seats?

They are ABCxDEF with A/F being Windows, B/E being middle seats and C and D being Aisle seats.

WN boards by groups. You have a better chance of getting an A card/Window Seat by checking in 24hrs in advanced online at southwest.com

PIT-PHL (2023) Shows as a -700
PHL-RDU (1287) Shows as a -700

RDU-PHL (1070) Shows as a -300 but has had a -700 before
PHL-PIT (641) Shows as a -700

ALL AIRCRAFTS ARE SUBJECTED TO BE CHANGED.

I am showing A-25 for todays PHL-RDU SWA Arrival.

Thanks for Flying SWA and anymore questions ask here! Smile

Alex

[Edited 2006-06-11 20:16:02]
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting Rottamo (Reply 2):
Highly likely 737

Funny...

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 3):
They are ABCxDEF with A/F being Windows, B/E being middle seats and C and D being Aisle seats.

WN boards by groups. You have a better chance of getting an A card/Window Seat by checking in 24hrs in advanced online at southwest.com

PIT-PHL (2023) Shows as a -700
PHL-RDU (1287) Shows as a -700

RDU-PHL (1070) Shows as a -300 but has had a -700 before
PHL-PIT (641) Shows as a -700

ALL AIRCRAFTS ARE SUBJECTED TO BE CHANGED.

I am showing A-25 for todays PHL-RDU SWA Arrival.

Thanks for Flying SWA and anymore questions ask here!

Alex

Do you think that I will have to go from the D concourse to the E concourse when in PHL, or do you think the arriving PIT flight will be in the E concourse with the departing RDU flight and vise versa?

Thank you so much and welcome to my RR!
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 4):
Do you think that I will have to go from the D concourse to the E concourse when in PHL, or do you think the arriving PIT flight will be in the E concourse with the departing RDU flight and vise versa?

For today, I looked around and it shows the PIT-PHL flight that you gave me arrives into PHL at D-3 and then continues on to BDL. Then the PHL-RDU flight you are connecting on to happens to also leave from D-3 as well.

All PHL-RDU arrivals at RDU is either A-25 or A27 that i show today.

There is a chance of there being a gate change on the day of the flight but generally the gate numbers stay the same, so I expect you to be flying into and out of D-3 at PHL when you commute between PIT and RDU on Southwest Airlines.

Once again, looking today the RDU-PHL on your return happens to also arrive into D-3 at PHL, but your PHL-PIT is scheduled as E-9 today.

Hope this helps again! Smile

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 5):
Once again, looking today the RDU-PHL on your return happens to also arrive into D-3 at PHL, but your PHL-PIT is scheduled as E-9 today.

Hope this helps again!

Alex

Ok great thanks! I will def. keep in touch! I sent you a message via myspace, so feel free to respnd.

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 6):

Ok great thanks! I will def. keep in touch! I sent you a message via myspace, so feel free to respnd.

No problem Smile

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:21 am

Question for all -

I live in Phila so never really have the occasion to connect through PHL on US or WN, so I often wonder these things.....How often is it that folks need to switch from PHL Term D or Term E (or other direction) to connect on WN. I recently flew PIT-PHL and we came in at the D gate and wondered what a pain it must be to connect on to E with WN....the security lines were pretty long at D as I left the airport, and walking to the train I saw the same at E.

If, in fact, connections between the two are common, is WN able to get their pax from one to the other in an "express" lane or are pax crap outta luck if lines long?

Just curious for those fortunate enough to connect thru PHL instead of O/D from here....thanks!
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:12 pm

Quoting BishopOfPHL (Reply 8):
I live in Phila so never really have the occasion to connect through PHL on US or WN, so I often wonder these things.....How often is it that folks need to switch from PHL Term D or Term E (or other direction) to connect on WN. I recently flew PIT-PHL and we came in at the D gate and wondered what a pain it must be to connect on to E with WN....the security lines were pretty long at D as I left the airport, and walking to the train I saw the same at E.

Wait, so I would have to go through security to get back into the D or E? Oh, dear, I hope I just have to stay in one concourse! If I miss my flight I won't know what to do. I should have taken one of the non-stop PIT-RDU flights on US!
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 9):
Wait, so I would have to go through security to get back into the D or E? Oh, dear, I hope I just have to stay in one concourse! If I miss my flight I won't know what to do. I should have taken one of the non-stop PIT-RDU flights on US!

CentPIT, I wouldn't stress about the D to E transfer yet...looking at your flight combo for today (a comparable weekday sched), you should be all E Terminal on your way there, and all D Terminal on the way home.

As for taking US for the direct flight to RDU, look on the bright side - you get more segments from a spotting point of view, and you send a small message to WN that they should run a direct routing PIT-RDU....I think that route would do great, as with PHL there are tons of folks who have moved south to the RDU area from both ends of PA and the O/D has got to be there to make it worthwhile.

I guess my question still stands for the group, though....how frequent are transfers b/t terminals on WN thru PHL?
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:06 pm

Quoting BishopOfPHL (Reply 10):
CentPIT, I wouldn't stress about the D to E transfer yet...looking at your flight combo for today (a comparable weekday sched), you should be all E Terminal on your way there, and all D Terminal on the way home.

I showed him leaving and arriving into D-3 for both return trips at PHL yesterday, now today it is all E.

I really wouldn't worry centpit, you have over 2 hrs layover in PHL, plenty of time.

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting BishopOfPHL (Reply 10):
As for taking US for the direct flight to RDU, look on the bright side - you get more segments from a spotting point of view, and you send a small message to WN that they should run a direct routing PIT-RDU....I think that route would do great, as with PHL there are tons of folks who have moved south to the RDU area from both ends of PA and the O/D has got to be there to make it worthwhile.

It is so funny you say this...I am actually going down to RDU for my cousin's grd party! My uncle works for a advertising company or something that is based out of Pittsburgh, and was transfered down to RDU. Every year the company has a huge meeting in Pittsburgh because they do work for WTAE. I can check on the name of the company, but I do know its HQ is in Pittsburgh.



I hope I am sending a message to WN for non-stop PIT-RDU.

By the way BishopOfPHL, welcome to my RR!

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 11):
I really wouldn't worry centpit, you have over 2 hrs layover in PHL, plenty of time

Thanks, Alex, I am not good with stress, hahaha...so I will try!


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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:39 am

CentPIT - right back at ya with the thanks. Write up a good trip report after your journey, and please don't judge the whole of PHL airport or the city by the dankness of Terminal E. Have a great flight.

If you have a ton of time b/t flights either way, a great place to spot a little and get away from that terminal's craziness is on the top, airfield side of the "D" parking garage. Just leave security and follow the signs to short-term D parking, and take the elevator up to the top. Especially on your return leg you might see some neat European arrivals in that earl/mid afternoon time.
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:07 am

I just thought of something else. How do I keep my A boarding pass/card when I am connecting in PHL for my flight to RDU. Does it remain because I was in the A section in Pittsburgh or what? I really want window seats so how can I accomplish this....hahaha?
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:33 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 14):
I just thought of something else. How do I keep my A boarding pass/card when I am connecting in PHL for my flight to RDU. Does it remain because I was in the A section in Pittsburgh or what? I really want window seats so how can I accomplish this....hahaha?

When you check in, you are checking for both flights the PIT-PHL and the PHL-RDU.

You will get an A card for both segments. When you line up and board, you will give them your A card from the PIT-PHL segment. Keep your A card for the PHL-RDU segment with you in your ticket jacket. Then when you land in PHL you still hold an A card/spopt for the A line in PHL for your PHL-RDU flightsame process again, line up in A at PHL, give them your PHL-RDU boarding pass segment and off you go!



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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:47 pm

Quoting BishopOfPHL (Reply 13):
don't judge the whole of PHL airport or the city by the dankness of Terminal E.

Agree, but what makes you think any sentient being (other than those with a hidden negative agenda) would judge the entire city by the condition of Terminal E ? By the way, WN's agenda is to take over ALL of "E" and when (if) they do, I would hope it gets a complete makeover. Their plans, however, have been delayed due to the Airport's recent directive that canceled DL's move out of "E".
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:07 pm

Quoting Vega (Reply 16):
what makes you think any sentient being (other than those with a hidden negative agenda) would judge the entire city by the condition of Terminal E

Trust me, there are plenty on these boards (or those who used to be on these boards) who would do just that....I'm just throwing it out there.

Vega, by the way, do you have an answer to my reply #8? You seem to know a good bit about PHL's operations as well as the ongoing terminal shuffle. I'd hope that E would get a makeover too, if/when it becomes all WN, but I get the impression it's a bit difficult to get much in the way of gate improvement committments from them (think T1 in LAX).

Regardless, I'm looking forward to the completion of the D/E construction project and finally connecting E with the rest of the airport.
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting BishopOfPHL (Reply 17):
Vega, by the way, do you have an answer to my reply #8? You seem to know a good bit about PHL's operations as well as the ongoing terminal shuffle. I'd hope that E would get a makeover too, if/when it becomes all WN, but I get the impression it's a bit difficult to get much in the way of gate improvement committments from them (think T1 in LAX).

So right now, WN is the only airline using E, but they don't use all of the gates yet or what? Why isn't E connected to the rest of the airport?

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 15):
When you check in, you are checking for both flights the PIT-PHL and the PHL-RDU.

Thanks Alex!!
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:04 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 18):
So right now, WN is the only airline using E, but they don't use all of the gates yet or what? Why isn't E connected to the rest of the airport?

Delta and Northwest are still in E for the time being. My understanding is DL is going to A; as far as I know NW is staying put in E. Someone correct me if I'm mistaken...
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:38 am

When are the new gate lease aggreements due?

It appears DL will be staying in E, which will really effect WN. Rather than having 4 gates in E and 4 in D during the E hammerhead construction, WN will only have 4 maybe up to 6.

Still haven't heard much reasoning behind DL staying in E. Some said it was because new international carriers, but they are just rumors and it would be at most 3 new flts a day.
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:41 am

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 20):
When are the new gate lease aggreements due?

PHLBOS might know...he's usually pretty keen to ongoing PHL projects...maybe he'll chime in here soon...
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 20):
Still haven't heard much reasoning behind DL staying in E. Some said it was because new international carriers, but they are just rumors and it would be at most 3 new flts a day.

Why aren't all of the Skyteam members together as in Pittsburgh? CO, DL, and NW are all in the the D concourse at PIT. It just seems odd that PHL wouldn't try to keep airlines that have alliances in the same concourse.

I always suggested just moving the UA flights in and out of Pittsburgh over to the A or B concourses so that the codeshare and Star Alliance becomes easier. (even though it is easy now because of the PIT design) Air Canada would then even be right in the mix with UA and US! The combined UA and AC operation would only add 17 more daily flights to the A or B concourses. I guess there is more to it?

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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:20 am

Sometimes it depends more on who handles the flts. UA handles AC flts so AC is in D with UA.

I believe that NW and DL handle their own flts so in reality they really don't need to be in the same terminal with the exception of the NW club which i don't even know if its still open. Paxs are't going to connect from a NW flt to a DL flt so the need to be in the same terminal is not very high.
 
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RE: Question For WN In PHL?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:31 am

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 23):
Sometimes it depends more on who handles the flts. UA handles AC flts so AC is in D with UA.

I believe that NW and DL handle their own flts so in reality they really don't need to be in the same terminal with the exception of the NW club which i don't even know if its still open. Paxs are't going to connect from a NW flt to a DL flt so the need to be in the same terminal is not very high.

Right! I just didn't know if sometimes being in the same concourse made it easier or not.

Example: (I know this is still far off)


If a NW flight (let's say) is flying LGA-DTW, and is diverted to PIT or PHL, if some of the passengers can make a connection through PIT or PHL on DL or CO to go to their final destination, would NW do this if a passenger asked? Especially if the passenger is going to IAH or ATL.
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