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GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:12 am

Just saw chopper footage from Tampa, FL of a small plane crash on the news. The aircraft was completely destroyed and apparently started a fire too. There was a ton of foam on the ground and some sort of building was still smoldering from the fire...

http://tboblogs.com/index.php/newswire/comments/plane_crash/

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:22 am

Watching the news now. The helo just zoomed out and the crash is like 50 feet or less from the runway. It ran into a house.

[Edited 2006-06-12 19:22:59]
 
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:24 am

They're now saying on Fox News that it was an emergency landing of a King Air that took off from Sarasota. The a/c is less than 50 feet from the end of the runway and ironically, only 5 houses away from the local fire department. Pilot was killed but witnesses say the copilot climbed out...not sure where he went or his injuries.

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:38 am

Registration quoted as N7043G, a Beech U-21A (Queen Air with turboprops)owned by Dynamic Avlease, Inc., which is based out of Virginia.

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:40 am

Have you seen the radar in Tampa, what the heck was it doing out there in that soup!
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
Have you seen the radar in Tampa, what the heck was it doing out there in that soup!

Not sure, but the local news helicopter was up in it covering the crash, so it couldn't be too bad...plus, radar doesn't show how bad visibility and ceilings are, just where the precipitation is.

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:53 am

Living only a short stretch from there (on Bayshore Blvd), NO ONE should have been flying a GA aircraft today and for most of the week also. Apparently the plane could never touch down properly and when it did, lost control to hit the house, with luckily on one person inside (everyone else was out). I hope this storm passes fast.
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
Registration quoted as N7043G, a Beech U-21A (Queen Air with turboprops)owned by Dynamic Avlease, Inc., which is based out of Virginia.

A U-21A, or in this case a Beech 65-A90-1 is not a Queen Air. A Queen Air (or a Beech model 65-88) is piston powered, the 90 series Beech are all PT-6 (turboprop) powered. One exception is the B-100 series which was powered by Garrett turboprops due to a strike / labor issue at Pratt & Whitney.

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:55 pm

i think they were just plain insane to go outside flying today, I was afraid to drive , i couldnt imagine what my instructer would have said if i wanted to fly, I was shopping for a new digital camera when it happened and i heard it on BEST BUY's TV and i just looked at the sales associate and said dumbass...at the point ground winds were gusting up to 25mph


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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:51 pm

According to the paper this morning it was a Mediterranean fruit fly eradication flight (they apparently drop sterile fruit flies to try to control the population, especially near seaports and airports). So at least it wasn't an amateur out on a joyride. Also the plane was trying to make an emergency landing at Peter O. Knight-it wasn't the final destination.
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 8):
at the point ground winds were gusting up to 25mph

Do you mean they were gusting 25 mph (on top of whatever the sustained winds were...) or the winds were from, say, 18mph gusting to 25mph?

FYI, the demonstrated crosswind component of a Cessna 172, much smaller than a King Air 100, is 17 kts (~20mph, and that is exactly that, demonstrated. In reality, the plane will handle a bit more, possibly with a crabbed landing.)...I've personally landed airplanes several times in winds that were at least 20kts gusting to 30.

As previously said, the winds weren't the cause of the crash, but rather the emergency that made him land where he didn't want to.

I've heard conflicting things about the landing...did he skid off the end or not make the approach end of the runway?

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting CptSpeaking (Reply 10):
FYI, the demonstrated crosswind component of a Cessna 172, much smaller than a King Air 100, is 17 kts (~20mph, and that is exactly that, demonstrated. In reality, the plane will handle a bit more, possibly with a crabbed landing.)...I've personally landed airplanes several times in winds that were at least 20kts gusting to 30.

Unless the wind was 90 degrees from the runway, Gusting to 25kts is nothing for a King Air handle. As you said, weather was only a contributing factor, obviously if he never lost that engine, we wouldn't be talking about this.
 
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:07 am

gusting 25mph over what the sustained winds of 15mph
 
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:07 am

RIP to those who died. The King Air is a safe plane. It doesnt happen very often.

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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 12):
gusting 25mph over what the sustained winds of 15mph

It is Gusting to that speed, not over that speed. So the winds would be 15mph gusting up to 25mph. Not 40mph
 
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:47 am

This will probably get the Davis Islanders up in arms to close Peter O. Knight Airport. Davis Island is a pretty swanky district in Tampa - the residents are all pretty wealthy and politically active.

Why the ATCs did not try to vector this plane to McDill AFB (just a few air miles across the bay) is beyond me. I would have preferred to have a 10,000 foot McDill runway to land on than trying to put down on POK's tiny, 3,000 foot runway in gusty winds and rain.
 
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:21 am

I am no pilot, but trying to fly much less land a small during a tropical storm (That is what you saw on the radar) cant be that smart. SRQ is maybe an hours drive, more/less. What,you couldnt rent a car and drive up?

I do feel for the family of both the pilot and pax, but want to know what he was thinking flying in that kind of weather. What about the family that lost their home and pets? I leave in the Tampa Bay area and the weather yesterday all over was nasty. This wasnt just a regular summer Florida shower.
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RE: GA Plane Crash In Tampa, FL

Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:28 pm

The weather wasn't bad enough that you couldn't fly. It wouldn't be the most smoothest flight, but the winds were not strong enough that it wasn't possible. It was just bad luck that the engine had to fail during this weather, and the airport they chose to land at wasn't very long.

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