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More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:24 am

Just wondered if anyone else had noticed this, or if it's simply the luck of the draw.

I've noticed now that on more and more United flights, Channel 9 is not automatically turned on like it used to be. Of course, I always ask anyway and the flight attendants are quite nice about checking, but lately, it appears that either the request doesn't get through or the captain outright declines to turn it on. This was the case in yesterday's afternoon flight from London to San Francisco. (While it was a bit disconcerting to be denied, being able to fly home in J was pretty nice. More on that in the trip reports  Smile )

I realize that pilots are under no requirement to allow pax to listen to ATC but it would seem to me that this is one of the perks of flying United (believe me, it's one of the reasons I do) - red carpet clubs and lie-nearly-flat beds are really nice, but to be able to know what's going on around you while in flight is really quite cool when it gets right down to it.

Thoughts on this...?
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:49 am

I almost always turn it in (767/757 fleet). I only occasionally find it off from the last captain. On int'l flights I generally turn it off once in oceanic airspace since there is nothing much to listen to. Sometimes I forget to turn it back on once back in VHF contact (oops).

There is also another consideration: If someone is occupying the cockpit jumpseat, sometimes I leave it off. Why? Because the jumpseater might tune his audio panel (which controls the signal to channel 9) to a communication that shouldn't be heard in the cabin, such as cockpit to ground crew, company communications, or FA interphone conversations. I never turn channel 9 on if the FAA is in the jumpseat. If a pilot is hitching a ride, I'll just ask him to leave it tuned to ATC only.

That being said, some pilots are concerned about people misinterpreting what is said. A gentleman once swore we took off from ORD without clearance. I had omitted to announce that we were using a radio flight number and not our "real" flight number. Oh well.

Any "abnormal" situations and channel 9 goes off ASAP.

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:15 am

In these times I'm surprised UA has it on at all. I also have always enjoyed listening to ATC and remember my first time back in the late 70's on a DC-8 on UAL.

Some may remember when AA had the cockpit camera's on the DC-10's and we got a great view of the t/o..that is until one day when there was an aborted t/o and some guy sued AA for emotional distress for having seen the cockpit cam catch it all. Crandall ordered them turned -off to avoid more copy-cat suits.

so, back to UA, I hope they keep them, but I would bet some Axx will get upset about an "abrupt" command by ATC at ORD or LGA or somewhere congested and sue UA also. Pity, some people almost look for an opportunity to call their attorney.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:27 am

Agreed. Channel 9 is actually one of the reasons I've remained as loyal to UA as I have. All but twice I've been able to listen to good 'ol channel 9. I have a fond memory of sitting in the runup area by Rwy 26L at GRR in a 735. We had been groundstopped due to weather and traffic in ORD. Listening to channel 9, I overheard a quite amusing conversation between the flight crew and Grand Rapids Tower, to which I started audibly laughing before I could catch myself, needless to say I received more than a few strange glances from my seatmates.
It's always nice to be able to tell you fellow pax why you're doing circles over the Janesville VOR when they start to get angry too.
On my last flight on UA was the 2nd time I didn't get any audio. I asked the FA as we were taxiing out, who promptly went up and asked and said it should be working. On arrival to ICN (form NRT) I stopped by the flight deck and asked the Captain, who said it was an honest mistake and apologized...oh well. I'm looking forward to a full day of it in July..ICN-SFO-ORD-GRR!

BTW, GreenArc, you said you drive the 757/767, any chance you'll be running a 757 from SFO to ORD on July 25th? It'd be only my 2nd A.net encounter.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:45 am

I've flown 6 segments on UA in the last two weeks, and Channel 9 was on for all of them (with the Captain announcing it each time -- "if you want to follow along with our aircraft, you can listen on Channel 9. We are callsign United #XXX.")

Maybe I've been lucky, but I actually think the pilots have turned it on MORE recently. When it comes to weather delays (like we had coming into ORD), I think it takes some of the heat off the flight crew when the plane is delayed, as passengers can hear for themselves that ATC is telling them to hold.

IMO, Channel 9 is the best IFE in the sky.
 
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:03 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 4):
Maybe I've been lucky, but I actually think the pilots have turned it on MORE recently. When it comes to weather delays (like we had coming into ORD), I think it takes some of the heat off the flight crew when the plane is delayed, as passengers can hear for themselves that ATC is telling them to hold.

This has been my experience as well. I find it to be on more than off.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:36 am

With the availability of XM satellite radio now on United, there has been a push to air more programing in lieu of having Ch9 on.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:41 am

I've always had very good luck with Channel 9 on UA. I certainly do appreciate each and every time it's on. Wonder how many people besides aviation enthusiasts listen to it.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:44 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):
With the availability of XM satellite radio now on United, there has been a push to air more programing in lieu of having Ch9 on.

That would be a major shame. I hardly ever listen to the canned audio tracks on airliners as I have thousands of the songs I like on my laptop and iPod, but Channel 9 stands out as unique in-flight entertainment and information.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:53 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 4):
Channel 9 is actually one of the reasons I've remained as loyal to UA as I have.

Me too. Sometimes when we're going through bad weather or heavy traffic, it's reassuring to hear "You'll be out of the bumps in 100 miles". A couple of years ago on an SFO-JFK flight, there was a huge weather front from Texas to Toronto, with only a 100 mile gap opening somewhere over Ohio. It was absolutely amazing to listen to the precision cooperation between ATC and ALL the many aircraft who wanted to squeeze through that gap. I could even see a few other aircraft passing us at various altitudes in the opposite directions. I stopped by the cockpit to compliment the captain on some superb flying through there.

I'll be very dissapointed if this gets discontinued.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:01 am

I just flew SFO - NRT - SIN and it was on all sectors. I love Ch 9 and there is no better entertainment unless you are flying over the pacific and there is nothing to listen to.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:49 am

Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 3):
Agreed. Channel 9 is actually one of the reasons I've remained as loyal to UA as I have.

Ditto. I've only been on a couple of flights where it hasn't been on and one of those was due in part to a problem with the entire IFE package. The FOs on my last two segments (HNL-NRT-ICN) highlighted channel 9 prior to departure.

On a related note, the new XM radio programming is great...more on that in my first trip report (should be next week).


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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:55 am

Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 3):
you said you drive the 757/767

Drive?!  confused  I'm sure you meant to say 'fly'.

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:58 am

When ever I have be in a UA flight, channel 9 has been on. I love listening to it. It makes the flight go faster knowing where we are....

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
Drive?! confused I'm sure you meant to say 'fly'.

Drive = land
Fly = air

Pilot lingo...we say stupid stuff like that all the time

One of my good friends is a former F-15 instructor and he commonly refers to his buddies as fellow "Eagle drivers"...it's actually quite common to hear that phrase in aviation

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:33 am

Quoting GreenArc (Reply 1):
I almost always turn it in (767/757 fleet). I only occasionally find it off from the last captain. On int'l flights I generally turn it off once in oceanic airspace since there is nothing much to listen to.

Hi GreenArc,

Thanks for your comments on this...they're greatly appreciated.

I mainly listen during ground taxi, T/O and initial climb, final descent and landing, and if/when we hit a particularly bad patch of turbulence. I've gotten accustomed to checking/asking as part of the first things I do when I step on a United plane, particularly for the long haul flights like I have been doing (three SFO-LHR round trips so far, with at least 2 more scheduled this year). I agree with many here that it's better than any IFE you could ever have (which is a big reason why I specifically don't fly the competing BA or VS product...)

Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 3):
BTW, GreenArc, you said you drive the 757/767, any chance you'll be running a 757 from SFO to ORD on July 25th? It'd be only my 2nd A.net encounter.

I was actually sitting here wondering if there were any a.nutters on my flight yesterday.  Smile
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:06 am

Hi GreenArc - I'll be flying SEA/ORD on Sunday on a 757. Any chance you'll be the pilot?
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 2):
Some may remember when AA had the cockpit camera's on the DC-10's and we got a great view of the t/o..that is until one day when there was an aborted t/o and some guy sued AA for emotional distress for having seen the cockpit cam catch it all. Crandall ordered them turned -off to avoid more copy-cat suits.

Maybe it's only a matter of time before the same thimg happens with UA and channel nine (lawsuit)  Sad

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting CptSpeaking (Reply 14):
Pilot lingo...we say stupid stuff like that all the time

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:34 pm

Channel 9 is the primary reason I enjoy flying UA when it serves my destination out of ALB (mostly RJ's now with some 735 mainline). I wish other airlines would provide ATC. Several years ago going BWI-DEN on a UA 757 I learned about the DANDY-2 Arrival into DEN by listening to channel 9.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:17 am

I'm looking forward to listening to Channel 9 when I fly a UA PS 757 on LAX-JFK this saturday...

I'll have little other choice after a while- my iPod has a bad habit of refusing to play music after about 2 hours, even if I have substantial battery life left. It just resets itself continuously, and does so until I reconnect it to power.

It's just a LITTLE annoying, but at least Channel 9 will be there this time...
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:55 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 2):
Some may remember when AA had the cockpit camera's on the DC-10's and we got a great view of the t/o..that is until one day when there was an aborted t/o and some guy sued AA for emotional distress for having seen the cockpit cam catch it all. Crandall ordered them turned -off to avoid more copy-cat suits.

Actually, AA got rid of the cockpit camera on the DC-10s after Flight 191 crashed after takeoff from ORD. IIRC, the families of the victims did include the matter of emotional distress while watching the pilots try to keep the plane airborne. I don't remember if the settlements and judgments included compensation for emotional distress suffered by the passengers, but AA wasn't about to give passengers any chance to push that issue in future court cases.

The reason that AA got rid of ATC transmissions was the advent of both the cell phone and the in-flight phone system. People were calling loved ones or the media because of misunderstanding as to what was happening on their flight or what they thought was going on with other airplanes.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:10 am

All I have to say is why don't more airlines do something similar? You would think that other airlines would have decided to copycat the unique concept.

Is it true that Japan airlines has aircraft nose cameras so you can get a forward view of outside? What other cameras do they have and can you watch them even during take off and landing?
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting DFORCE1 (Reply 22):
Is it true that Japan airlines has aircraft nose cameras so you can get a forward view of outside? What other cameras do they have and can you watch them even during take off and landing?

Air France does, at least on the 332. It plays continously from the moment you get on the aircraft, at least in my experience. Very amazing to see the takeoff and landing
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:04 am

With regards to Channel 9, my recent experience on UA on a 2 segment trip DEN-ORD-PHL (First UA flights for me since 2000) was as follows...

DEN-ORD (op by 747-400)...asked f/a at door if he knew whether Channel 9 was available or not for this flight...got a very unconvincing "yes" as a response...went back to my seat and flagged down another f/a and tried again...got a "I'm not sure, but I'll check and get back to you" answer...never heard back from that f/a, but Channel 9 was turned on as we climbed through about FL240 or so...

ORD-PHL (op by 737-300)...again asked f/a at door, who said "I don't know" then poked in the cockpit and asked the captain who gave a yes answer...Channel 9 was available for the entire trip and proved to be fascinating as our flight was heavily delayed by weather both before takeoff and while enroute (stuck in holds along the way)...made for interesting listening...

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:20 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 21):
Actually, AA got rid of the cockpit camera on the DC-10s after Flight 191 crashed after takeoff from ORD. IIRC, the families of the victims did include the matter of emotional distress while watching the pilots try to keep the plane airborne. I don't remember if the settlements and judgments included compensation for emotional distress suffered by the passengers, but AA wasn't about to give passengers any chance to push that issue in future court cases.

Could be, but I thought it was after the aborted DFW incident. I am pretty sure I recall the cameras for a few years after 191. Besides since there was total destruction of 191, I doubt no one could have ever found the camera to prove "distress", IMO.
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:49 am

I have the absolute worst luck getting to hear Channel 9. On my last two UA legs (ORD-LAX-ORD 744) it was not on during either flight.  yell 

Quoting ER757 (Reply 16):
Hi GreenArc - I'll be flying SEA/ORD on Sunday on a 757. Any chance you'll be the pilot?



Quoting Crjflyer35 (Reply 3):

BTW, GreenArc, you said you drive the 757/767, any chance you'll be running a 757 from SFO to ORD on July 25th? It'd be only my 2nd A.net encounter.

Come on guys, the 757/767 are extremely common aircraft to the UA fleet, and the odds of this guy being your capt on any given day are pretty rare.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting GreenArc (Reply 1):

I remember reading a UA flight 232 survivors book (Miracle in the Cornfield by Joe Trombello) and according to him a passenger who was listening to channel 9 said he heard Capt Haynes tell ATC (I am assuming it was MPLS Center) that they had no hydraulic fluid and had doubts about making the (an) airport.

I am wondering if and when he flipped the switch. Also, are UA pilots instructed to do this if anything out of the ordinary occurs (I know you said this, but is it UA policy or your personal preference)? Is it on an emergency checklist(s)? One would think if the emergency required input from both crew (as on 232's case) it would be low on the list.

Look forward to your response. 757 my favorite next to the good old -10.

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:26 am

When was the AA DFW incident that supposedly was the benchmark for turning off the cockpit cam on the DC-10? I remember flying out of HNL on an AA DC10 in 1989 and distinctly remember watching the to roll, rotation, and right turn away from downtown HNL.

The first time I heard channel nine was in the mid-80s on a flight out of LGA. The FO encouraged us to listen in to ATC communications. A few seconds after his advertisement, what do we hear broadcast: "Hey, what the hell is that guy doing?"

I'm not sure if it was ATC or an aircrew that said that one.

Speaking of great things heard on the comm, I was once flying a VOR-B approach into Cable Airport (KCCB) and as we were passing the POM VOR, I hear the then-called Ontario approach say, "Cessna xxx, turn left or turn right. You're heading the wrong direction." Thank god that wasn't me.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:20 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 26):
Come on guys, the 757/767 are extremely common aircraft to the UA fleet, and the odds of this guy being your capt on any given day are pretty rare.

You're extremely correct there P.S, never hurts to ask though, am I right? Worst thing I could hear would be no....
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:15 pm

I love channel 9. My best channel 9 experience was flying into DEN and you could the Virgin plane that did the trip around the world was passing us by. I also got to see it out my window. Very exciting.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):
With the availability of XM satellite radio now on United, there has been a push to air more programing in lieu of having Ch9 on.

Like everything else good things disappear with time. Just my negative 2 cents.
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:35 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 2):
Some may remember when AA had the cockpit camera's on the DC-10's and we got a great view of the t/o..that is until one day when there was an aborted t/o and some guy sued AA for emotional distress for having seen the cockpit cam catch it all.

Unbelievable ! Why not just close your eyes or look somewhere else if you don't want to watch it ?
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:58 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 2):
Some may remember when AA had the cockpit camera's on the DC-10's and we got a great view of the t/o..that is until one day when there was an aborted t/o and some guy sued AA for emotional distress for having seen the cockpit cam catch it all. Crandall ordered them turned -off to avoid more copy-cat suits.

Maybe. Or maybe this is a myth. Or just bad lawyer advice.

Most white-knuckle fliers say that they think they are EVER so safe in their little cars because THEY are in control. Really, it's because in a car you can see out the front. These same folks, for example, probably don't have a problem riding on a bus. When something unexpected happens in an airliner, most people panic because they don't know what's happening. OMG! It's BUMPY! Turn on Ch. 9, hear pilots very calmly ask ATC for a different altitude because of a "little light chop". Calm down.

Aborted takeoff on AA? They could see out the front, and see how calm the pilots were. Cockpit tapes, particularly without audio, are pretty boring to most people, because the guys just sit there and make very limited movements on the controls. Look at that Finnair MD11 go-around video: the Captain's rearward movement of the yolk is imperceptible, and you just see the horizon change outside the a/c and on the artificial horizon. He doesn't violently jam the throttles forward, he moves them smoothly and slowly. Nobody is freaking out. So the passengers shouldn't freak out watching it. If a go-around was initiated in the AA cockpit, the passengers would feel the plane moving in an unexpected way, look in the cockpit on the monitor, and see that nothing unusual was happening there. It's a soother, not an aggravator. Feeling the plane move and looking out the window as the ground retreats is an aggravator. "I was emotionally distressed by looking out the window." Riiiiiight. Give me 5 minutes in a deposition with that guy and it would be all over.

As to the ORD accident. What happened to those people was traumatic regardless of whether they could see what was happening in the cockpit. If anything, what was happening there wasn't anything freakish, as opposed to, say, looking out the window and seeing hoses spewing fluid and gunk and gash where the engine used to be, as the aircraft rolls to the left and augers in. That was a horrible, terrifying event, made no more so by any potential video which, for all we know, was thrown off by the violent movements of the aircraft or the loss of electrical power from the departed engine. I doubt that the IFE system was on the non-shedding bus. On the 767, at least, if you lose an engine, the IFE is one of the first things to be shed, and it happens immediately and automatically when the "Utility" Bus is shed.

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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:35 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 26):
Come on guys, the 757/767 are extremely common aircraft to the UA fleet, and the odds of this guy being your capt on any given day are pretty rare.

I am well aware of that, but what's the harm of asking? You know it just COULD happen......
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 33):
When something unexpected happens in an airliner, most people panic because they don't know what's happening. OMG! It's BUMPY! Turn on Ch. 9, hear pilots very calmly ask ATC for a different altitude because of a "little light chop". Calm down.

One of the reasons I've come to love CH9. Unfortunately for me, I'm about to board an ICN-HNL flight on (gulp) Korean (sc)Air! No CH9 on what looks to be a choppy red-eye across the Pacific...
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:32 pm

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 33):
When something unexpected happens in an airliner, most people panic because they don't know what's happening. OMG! It's BUMPY! Turn on Ch. 9, hear pilots very calmly ask ATC for a different altitude because of a "little light chop". Calm down.

I'll have to say, being able to listen in on Channel 9 has helped me deal with my in-flight white-knuckle issues a lot. I used to freak out at the slightest bump...now I barely flinch at anything other than the strongest turbulence (the kind that makes people gasp and yelp.)
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:33 am

On my first two UA flights two weeks ago from LAX-ORD (red-eye) and ORD-DTW, there was no Channel 9 on ORD-DTW, but on LAX-ORD, channel 9 was only one for take off. Apart from that I found the UA service way better then what I was expecting and what people on this forum say. I had a friend take a direct NW flight LAX-DTW on the same day as me, so she obviously arrived before me in DTW an she said the NW service was shocking, no free drinks compared to my UA experience, the FAs on NW were totally rude. She now wishes she took the travel agents advice and went on UA. Not a good experience for her on her first NW flight and first US visit. I'm very impressed with UA thou. The FAs and UA employees at LAX and ORD went out of their way to help me, all because I'm from a different country, so I got lost very easily. Way to go UA Smile
 
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RE: More UA Pilots Saying 'no' To Channel 9?

Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting FiveMileFinal (Reply 36):
I'll have to say, being able to listen in on Channel 9 has helped me deal with my in-flight white-knuckle issues a lot. I used to freak out at the slightest bump...now I barely flinch at anything other than the strongest turbulence (the kind that makes people gasp and yelp.)

I flew TPA-IAD yesterday, and CH 9 was on - and a real treat. We had lightning strikes, departures switched from north to south while taxiing to the runway, long delays on departure because the incomings were stacked in the path of our takeoffs - and a great back and forth between the tower and all the aircraft waiting to depart.
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