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SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:34 pm

Just speculation,but SIA has a long history in ordering and canceling airplanes.Sometimes before delivery...

MD11s were ordered, but replaced with an A343-order, which was changed into a B777 order...

No they are ordering B787, which will probably be canceled and Airbus gets a new order from them..?

I think that is a unique history in aviation - some may call them unreliable as a customer.So maybe SIA will surprise us all in two or three years time?

PLS: No A vs. B !!! That is absolutely NOT the reason for my post.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:39 pm

I wouldn't normally comment but this topic is plumbing the depths...
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:42 pm

Yes, but they've never done that to Boeing.

And in any case, with the way SQ feels towards Airbus right now, Airbus should count itself lucky that the A380 order is still alive!
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:47 pm

In each case, the aircraft that superceded the previous was clearly superior in its market segment. That remains to be seen for the A370.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:53 pm

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
No they are ordering B787, which will probably be canceled and Airbus gets a new order from them..?

Wishful thinking (or Humbert's wet dream, whatever you want to call it).

I don't think Singapore will swap their orders for an airplane that does not exist and most likely won't exist for the next 8-10 years.

Also, do you think any airline will risk to be the launch customer for a new Airbus airplane after the A380 delays? I don't doubt that Airbus will continue finding customers for their existing, proven products, but after the A380 experience, Airbus will have hard time finding buyers for anything that is so far in the future.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:54 pm

SQ certainly has a history of quickly ridding its fleet of duds. If the 787 indeed turns out to be the "Nightmareliner" instead of the "Dreamliner," SQ is likely to take swift action to remedy the situation.
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:12 am

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
So maybe SIA will surprise us all in two or three years time?

So because they've done it in the past, they might "surprise us all" again? Sure. Emirates might "surprise us all" and switch the A380 to the 748. Ryanair might "surprise us all" and switch the 738 to the 320. SQ might switch the 380 to the 748.

We can go on and on and on. I'm not sure what anyone is supposed to add other than idle speculation. The 787 isn't even built yet, let alone flying.

Are you sure this isn't "wishful thinking"?  duck 

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:14 am

I dont think its going to happen, and in any case I dont think Airbus deserves the order!
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:18 am

Considering SQ's history of switching to a Boeing product, I'd be more worried about the A380's being converted to 748's then the 787 being converted to "A370s".

That SQ has decided to purchase the 787-9 implies they want a plane smaller then the 772ER, which is where the "A370" will presumably start. Now, SQ might decide to not exercise their 20 options for 787-10s if the "A370" looks to be epic, but I don't think Airbus will be able to provide that information before Farnsborough, which is when I believe Boeing will formally launch the 787-10 and SQ will exercise their 20 options for 20 frames of that model.

All that being said, by the time the largest members of the "A370" enters service in the late 2010's, if SQ needs additional capacity, they may decide to choose it, but by then Boeing will be shopping Y3 and depending on how much SQ likes the 773ER (and 772LR, should they choose it), they may decide to wait. Afterall, they seem to really like the 772ER...
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:22 am

Unlikely IMO, the 787 & A370 probably won't be in the same segment anyway.
An emerging reality still 90% of the public / press hasn't picked up.

Anyway SQ just started shopping IMO.

Short term asian lift capasity could play an important role in a 777 replacement RFP, the 787 won't be available in time. The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

[Edited 2006-06-15 17:46:25]
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:29 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

In the end it may be the only viable weapon in the arsenal. See: Comments on this article about A350 Design (by AeroPiggot Jun 14 2006 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
Just speculation,but SIA has a long history in ordering and canceling airplanes.Sometimes before delivery...

Do you know of any other switches, One instance doesn't make a looooooonnnnnnnggggggg historyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:21 pm

You should change the title of this thread "Will SIA change B789 to A370 in the future?"
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:24 pm

@F14ATomcat

Two switches for the same requirement are enough, aren�t they?

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:32 pm

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
SIA has a long history in ordering and canceling airplanes.



Quoting Johnny (Reply 13):
Two switches for the same requirement are enough, aren�t they?

Two does not a long history make. (Apologies to W. Shakespeare.)
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
Short term asian lift capasity could play an important role in a 777 replacement RFP, the 787 won't be available in time. The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

Keesje,

Seriously, when will this idea die??

Let's think about this for a second...

SQ is using 777s on their intra-Asian routes, and apperantly they're happy with them, otherwise with SQ's history of switching planes, they'd have swapped the non-ER 777s with A330s for the route you mentioned a long time ago.

Let's move time 5-7 years down the road... SQ would have received their 787-9s, (And maybe some -3s or -8s or -10s with their 20 options, you never know...) which is a bit smaller than 777s and lighter, yet it should have enough capacity to satisfy it's intra-Asian network...
If Airbus comes to SQ and say "Why don't you replace your aging 777s for your Intra-Asian network with our A330s which is old technology, and heavier than your new shiney 787s which can do the job and fly to Europe and North America, so you can add an additional fleet type, train your MX guys to maintain it, buy spare parts just for the A330s that only has one purpose of flying to HKG, TPE, JKT, DPS, MNL etc etc..."

Do you think SQ would even pick up future phone calls from Airbus if they REALLY make this kind of proposal???

Don't get me wrong, I think A330 is one of the greatest aircrafts ever produced, with A332 and A333 covering a wide market spectrum and mission segments... but what you're envisioning is just... well, streching it to say the least.

[Edited 2006-06-16 15:44:09]
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:44 pm

Quoting Katekebo (Reply 4):
Also, do you think any airline will risk to be the launch customer for a new Airbus airplane after the A380 delays?

Given the growing anti-American feeling in some circles, launch customers for the A370 will not be a problem. Just scan the A350 order list. TAM would likely sign up, it is one of the most anti-Boeing companies I've seen.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:49 pm

This thread, starting with the title, is designed to create doubt. Airbus has not even given the new new project a name beyond the current one, and Singapore has just ordered the 787.
Seriously, if you're desperate to believe something in order to preserve your notion of Airbus superiority and of the primacy of the coming A350 then try something positive about the new plans management has for the project (assuming management doesn't get arrested for insider trading, or sacked by the shareholders for incompetency in their planning, process management and public relations...not to mention their failure to keep the shareholders apprised of the facts in a timely manner).

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
PLS: No A vs. B !!! That is absolutely NOT the reason for my post.

right!  thumbsup   sarcastic 

Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

Yes...and the F-104 could make a comeback for the RNLAF if the F-35 doesn't pan out for them.
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 17):
Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

Yes...and the F-104 could make a comeback for the RNLAF if the F-35 doesn't pan out for them.

LOL!!! that's classic!!!
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:56 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
Unlikely IMO, the 787 & A370 probably won't be in the same segment anyway.
An emerging reality still 90% of the public / press hasn't picked up.

Keesje,

Based on what Airbus has been describing for their new bird, I was kind of wondering when much of the public/press was going to pick up on this too!

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
MD11s were ordered, but replaced with an A343-order, which was changed into a B777 order...



Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
SIA has a long history in ordering and canceling airplanes.Sometimes before delivery...

As pointed out, the MD-11 was cancelled prior to delivery due to the shortcomings with the performance of the aircraft. However, (IIRC) technically, SQ never cancelled any of their A340 order. They never exercised any of the options, but I think that their order was for only 16 aircraft, of which all were built and delivered. Granted the last few ended up never operating for SQ, but I don't think that any were cancelled. However I could be wrong and I welcome anyone to correct me on that.

Anyway, my point is, SQ doesn't just go and order and airplane and then cancel it for $h!ts & giggles or to piss of the manufacturer. They have a reason for replacing the aircraft and if the 787 meets its performance goals they will probably keep it. If the A370 turns out to be an awesome aircraft that offers them substantial benefits over the 787, then they will probably replace it.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 16):
TAM would likely sign up, it is one of the most anti-Boeing companies I've seen.

But can you really bank-roll an entire longhaul product on carriers the likes of TAM? No offense, but they are hardly the name-brand customers that Airbus needs to ensure the success of the A350/A370.

Are the big airlines like EK, LH, QR in these circles? Some huge customers have already chosen Boeing...

Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
Short term asian lift capasity could play an important role in a 777 replacement RFP, the 787 won't be available in time. The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

This becomes less and less an option with every passing day. Perhaps if they had ordered the aircraft one of the other three times they evaluated the A330, but at this period, the clock is ticking.

The gap in which SQ could effectivly utilize the A330 is more like 2007-2010, not 2015. That's a very small niche. The best replacement for a 777 may just be another 777 until the 787 arrive.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 16):
Given the growing anti-American feeling in some circles, launch customers for the A370 will not be a problem

Air Jihad and Air Qaida do come to mind. And so do ongoing orders for complete airframes. (Parts would be a different matter, however)
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 16):
Given the growing anti-American feeling in some circles, launch customers for the A370 will not be a problem. Just scan the A350 order list. TAM would likely sign up, it is one of the most anti-Boeing companies I've seen.

Oh boy, I was waiting for the old "anti-American" diatribe to start.  sarcastic 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:27 am

I don't think SIA would want to cancel or switch an order of a very comfortable and efficient plane for a plane that is just very similar to her her brothers and sisters! What I mean by this is that the A50 looked very similar to the A330 and probably the A370 will also have a similar look. To me and airline ordering the A350 or A370 is just like ordering an A330 but with longer range. Besides that, the Boeing 787 just looks impressive with her new cockpit and efficiencies. Many other Boeing's like the 747-8 are getting similar things of a magnificent NEW LOOK airliner!

So just think JOHNNY, an airline would not want to cancel an order of a magnificent plane that has not even rolled out yet and it already has orders for more than 400 of a variety of series.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 20):
Are the big airlines like EK, LH, QR in these circles? Some huge customers have already chosen Boeing...

Very well said Dfw, and it's for the reasons you mentioned that I believe that LH will order Boeing aircraft this year. LH's CEO has made it clear that it will NOT become an all-Airbus carrier.
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:51 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 22):
Oh boy, I was waiting for the old "anti-American" diatribe to start.

What I wrote was not diatribe so no need to rush into pulling a race-like card on me.

The following is a fact: Some airlines and governments take political considerations into aircraft orders. Because of it some airlines will pick Boeing over Airbus and vice-versa. I am just pointing to an airline that makes poor fleet choices because of country-of-origin preference.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 20):
But can you really bank-roll an entire longhaul product on carriers the likes of TAM? No offense, but they are hardly the name-brand customers that Airbus needs to ensure the success of the A350/A370.

No offense, but that is a rather ignorant statement - regardless of the factors TAM puts into selecting aircraft.
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
PLS: No A vs. B !!! That is absolutely NOT the reason for my post.

Right, sure it isnt.

After SQ indepth analysis of the 787, they will stick with the type, no discussion. SQ cancelled their MD11 order for only one reason, SQ correctly determined that the MD11 would not hit its performance targets. As for the A343, SQ got a better deal and a better airplane from Boeing.....SQ also had small 757, A300 and DC10 fleet that quickly came and went for various reasons.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:31 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 26):
SQ also had small 757, A300 and DC10 fleet that quickly came and went for various reasons.

don't forget those perky 727s!! as well as the 747-300???
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:55 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 26):
Right, sure it isnt.

Dutchjet:

Spot on; although at this point, it probably represents wishful thinking on the part of the thread starter more than anything else.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:26 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 25):
No offense, but that is a rather ignorant statement - regardless of the factors TAM puts into selecting aircraft.

Oh please, do you think Airbus wouldn't give up TAM, Finnair, and Air Europa combine to win just one carrier like Qantas, Singapore, or Emirates ??

I'm not criticizing their selection methods. They simply aren't a big enough airline to be considered a blue chip customers that could put momentum behind a program. They don't even opperate ten long-haul aircraft at the moment.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:52 am

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
No they are ordering B787, which will probably be canceled and Airbus gets a new order from them..?

You say this and then say it's not an A vs. B thread. Yea....right....
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:16 am

SIA ordered fewer 787's than was the anticipated totals for this RFP. What does that mean, it could be:

a) They are planning further orders once the dust settles and the 3?0 is actually defined and design frozen (a couple of years from now). The possibility of buying the A3?0 does exist to complement the 787 but the design needs to be rock solid first. (And the 380s work great!)

b) They locked in the 787-9 for the immediate time for both price and delivery in enough quantity to have breathing room. Option conversion would allow for the -10 and better info on the plane before commiting deeper.

c) They are still deciding on added 777ER's, the 777LR, the 748 to fill out the order but realized it will take several more months.

SIA needs metal flying in a few years, they deferred making a decision several times on the 787 at Airbus's pleading. As such they have poorer deliver spots and missed the good pricing of the launch and that QF got. I'm sure that gave them a real warm feeling.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 31):
SIA needs metal flying in a few years, they deferred making a decision several times on the 787 at Airbus's pleading. As such they have poorer deliver spots and missed the good pricing of the launch and that QF got.

I am not so sure that those are necessarily poorer delivery slots. Bear in mind that SQ chose the B787-9 and not either the B787-3 or -8. The first B787-9 is due to be delivered in december 2010 to NZ. SQ will not be far behind, getting theirs in early 2011. I am not too sure and I can't read SQ's mind regarding whether the other models of the 787 would have interested them but all in all, I don't think they are necessarily losing out on delivery slots.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:05 pm

@ Radelow

Exactly.This is far away from a A vs. B thread.

And reading all the posts i see most people answering this thread think the same.

Sorry, that you do not.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:56 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 2):
Airbus should count itself lucky that the A380 order is still alive!

That's too heavy. Airbus should first count itself lucky of being the only one offering an airplane capable of carrying until 800 pax to a company in need of such an airlier. Do't you think?...
After all, it's not so easy...

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 31):
SIA ordered fewer 787's than was the anticipated totals for this RFP

what was the anticipated RFP? I thought upto 40 planes in one order is plenty much. I know QF has something like upto 115 planes, but 40 planes is more than enough for SQ's expansion.

SQ only has 90 total airplane in its fleet, with 29 on order. They only have 46 772 in their current fleet, which is some of what this 787-9 going to replace for intra asia flight.

20 firm orders with another 20 purchase right is more than enough.

Remember, SQ is not EK. SQ relies on slow and steady growth, not one burst of aircraft purchase on top of other.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:33 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 35):
SQ only has 90 total airplane in its fleet, with 29 on order. They only have 46 772 in their current fleet, which is some of what this 787-9 going to replace for intra asia flight.

20 firm orders with another 20 purchase right is more than enough.

SQ's first batch of B777-200ERs were delivered between 11 April 1997 and 19 August 1999 and would need to be replaced between 2009 and 2011 if SQ holds to pattern. It would make sense that the 20 B787-9s on firm order are to replace these 13 and provide for some expansion, but the timing is off unless SQ are expecting Boeing to open a second line and start deliveries earlier.
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting American777 (Reply 23):
To me and airline ordering the A350 or A370 is just like ordering an A330 but with longer range. Besides that, the Boeing 787 just looks impressive with her new cockpit and efficiencies. Many other Boeing's like the 747-8 are getting similar things of a magnificent NEW LOOK airliner!

If you put it like that the 787 is just a 767 with longer range.
 
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Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:00 am

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Cool pics, American777! Am I mistaken, or is that a CGI 787?! BTW, What's up with the SIA 748? Is this a sign of things to come?
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:02 am

Quoting Johnny (Thread starter):
PLS: No A vs. B !!! That is absolutely NOT the reason for my post.

Yeah, right. Aren't you the same person who started the 787 might be delayed thread?

Maybe I should start a "I might win the megamillions lottery" thread. A ridiculous topic, but right in line with all these "I don't mean to start an A v B thread.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 17):
Quoting Keesje (Reply 9):
The A330 could still become a vital Airbus weapon for the 2007-2015 period.

Yes...and the F-104 could make a comeback for the RNLAF if the F-35 doesn't pan out for them.

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:08 am

Quoting Picard (Reply 37):
If you put it like that the 787 is just a 767 with longer range.

Do not mistaken me, but the Boeing 767 and 787 share a lot of differences!

The A350 (A370 supposedly to become) have many similarities to the regular A330's A340's! If you say they are way to different, how come Airbus didn't design a new nose or cockpit, fuselage body, or tail etc.!

The 787 is an all new-studied designed plane with no similarities to her older family members!

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:49 pm

Flight International, 20 June 2006 by Max Kingsley-Jones

Manufacturer Plays Down SIA 787-9 Selection

Airbus and Singapore Airlines say the carrier's decision last week to order up to 40 boeing 787-9s does not close the door to a possible deal for the A350/370.

"...[SIA chief executive] Chew Choon Seng has been saying publicly that what we've got to do to fix the A350," says Airbus chief operating officer, customers, John Leahy. "I had a a conference call with the airline [since the 787 deal was announced] and discussions continue on the A350." SIA says "we don't believe in closing the door on anything," and confirms that it will continue talking with Airbus about the A350. "The door is still open." Leahy says that the possible loss of SIA as a customer, "does not impact our internal discussions on what to do with the A350," despite the airline being one of the key drivers behind studies into the the revamped family.


How does this jive with last week's "stop the chaos...let's stick with what we've got" musings regarding the A350 that were eminating from Mr. Leahy?

http://atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=5384

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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting Glom (Reply 3):
In each case, the aircraft that superceded the previous was clearly superior in its market segment. That remains to be seen for the A370.

Right on.
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting Glom (Reply 3):
In each case, the aircraft that superceded the previous was clearly superior in its market segment. That remains to be seen for the A370.

I have no doubt that if Airbus are willing to spend $10B on development, as reported, then they can beat the B777. Beating the B787 would be much more challenging.
 
MaartenV
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:09 am

This thread (or at least the title) is comparable with the 'Qatar taking over Lufthansa' thread which was around a couple of minutes some days ago.

Again a thread which is based on nothing but wishful thinking from the thread starter.

Why on earth would we speculate about the cancellation of an order, placed just a couple of days ago, when there are absolutely no reasons to think about it.
Its all about supply and demand...
 
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:26 am

Let's do some more speculation:
  • North American airlines soon most profitable in the world.
  • CO, AA, NH and WN change fleet to all Airbus after 787 debacle.
  • Concorde back in service soon again.
There's still a long way to go before all the alliances deserve a star...
 
GBan
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RE: SIA To Change Their B789 For A370?

Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:48 am

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 48):
Let's do some more speculation:

North American airlines soon most profitable in the world.
CO, AA, NH and WN change fleet to all Airbus after 787 debacle.
Concorde back in service soon again.

May I add:

Pointless thread on A.Net getting no response.

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