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Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:33 am

I do not mean to make this a poll, but a discussion.

It seems that some aircraft manufacturers have preferred engine manufacturers.

I would say that Boeing's preferred engine manufacturer is GE. They have made exclusive agreements with GE for the 777-200LR, 777-300ER, and 747-8. Originally Boeing wanted to only offer one engine choice for the 787, and GE was considered the most likely candidate.

For McDonnell Douglas, Pratt was definately their preferred engine manufacturer. For the MD-80 and MD-90, they chose P&W and IAE (which Pratt is a part of) over CFM.

Airbus is a tough call IMO.

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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:35 am

Boeing's "preferrence" for GE is entirely because GE demanded exclusivity and was willing to pay for it on those three models.
 
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:59 am

For Airbus, I think the CFM is the more popular engine on the A32X series and of course the only choice on the A340-2/300. However, for the rest, there appears to be a preference for RR.
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 2):
I think the CFM is the more popular engine on the A32X series

Which is entirely due to customer choice rather than reflecting any bias within Airbus.

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 2):
However, for the rest, there appears to be a preference for RR.

You're taking a very recent view of things. There was no RR engine on any Airbus before the A330. Airbus tended to prefer GE for widebodies.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I would say that Boeing's preferred engine manufacturer is GE.

Again, quite a recent development. The 747 first flew with PW. There was no GE at all on the 757. The 777 was launched with PW. If anything, Boeing's first choice seemed to be PW until quite recently.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
For McDonnell Douglas, Pratt was definately their preferred engine manufacturer.

Mostly because there was no real alternative to PW on the DC-9/MD-80. But what about the DC-10 which was almost entirely GE or the MD-11 where GE gained 60% of the business?

It's actually quite hard to argue that Airbus, Boeing and McDD have traditionally had "preferred" engine suppliers. However, the developing Boeing/GE relationship may change that and that, in turn, may push Airbus and RR closer.
 
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:25 am

Here's something from an earlier thread (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2607747) that may be illuminating.

Boeing first flights...

707...... PW
727-100 PW
727-200 PW
737-100 PW
737-200 PW
737-300/400/500 CFM
737-600/700/800/900 CFM
747-100 PW
747-200 PW
747-300 PW
747-400 PW
757-200 RR
757-300 RR
767-200 PW
767-300 PW
767-400 GE
777-200 PW
777-300 RR
777LR... GE
787...... RR
 
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:05 am

Quoting PM (Reply 3):
There was no GE at all on the 757.

Boeing initially intended the 757 to be available with GE engines (the CF6-32), but was canned due to lack of interest from airlines.
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:25 am

Our A320 family have all IAE V2500's. Our E190 family has GE's.
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
Boeing initially intended the 757 to be available with GE engines (the CF6-32), but was canned due to lack of interest from airlines.

Indeed. In fact, I believe that GE was initially Boeing's preferred option on the 757. They did actually gain an order. One of the Hawaiian airlines? Alas, it went the same way as the Trent 600 on the MD-11.
 
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RE: Preferred Engine Manufacturers Of A/B/MD

Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
Boeing's "preferrence" for GE is entirely because GE demanded exclusivity and was willing to pay for it on those three models.

That's not entirely true. Boeing is the one who demanded a sole-source engine for the 747-8. The market for the airplane isn't expected to be large enough to warrant the additional development costs for two engine types.

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