adipasqu
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Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:23 pm

Why doesn't any carrier operate SAN-RNO non-stop? I realize neither are really any kind of hub, but with all the surfers/snowboarders, not to mention all the other amenities the Greater Reno/Lake Tahoe area, I would think at least WN and UA (maybe AS) would have at least a couple each. Any thoughts?
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:05 pm

Quoting Adipasqu (Thread starter):
Why doesn't any carrier operate SAN-RNO non-stop?

This would strictly be an O&D flight, and the numbers for such a route just don't add up. So your best hope is a single stop through LAX, LAS, PHX, SFO or SLC so others from other origins can make flying into RNO worth it.
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adipasqu
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:15 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
This would strictly be an O&D flight

Not necessarily, WN could use it to connect to other flights out of RNO. There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:37 pm

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
Not necessarily, WN could use it to connect to other flights out of RNO.

WN's RNO operations are pretty limited to shorter flights that can be reached via SJC, LAS, PHX etc. already.

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...

I think it could be done with one daily 737, however they might have bigger fish to fry in other cities.
 
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:56 pm

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 2):
There has to be enough O&D traffic for at least 1 daily 737 on this route...

455 O & D pax a day seems like enough to justify a non-stop.
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:50 pm

SWA did try this not too long ago, both SAN and BUR were tried as Sat only nonstop flights. After that, Aloha did operate the route and it was so so at first to poor in the end. Not like their SNA-RNO route that does much better.
 
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 3):
I think it could be done with one daily 737, however they might have bigger fish to fry in other cities.

With all the planes they are taking delivery of, they may soon run out of those bigger fish. If what Flyboy says is true, that's very strange as you would think at least half those O&D pax would opt for the quickest and cheapest fare SAN-RNO, and with SAN being a major WN station it seems even more strange as I would think they would have a loyal customer base there.

I don't see any other airline trying it as a nonstop flight. UA is too entrenched at LAX and has bigger issues to address, and AS/QX are also working on building up LAX as a major hub.
 
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:03 pm

Perhaps the 737 is too large for the route. A 717, EMB-170, EMB-190, or Dash 8-400 might work a bit better...
 
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:51 pm

Seems like a perfect route for QX when the new 8-400's start arriving.
 
adipasqu
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RE: Why No SAN-RNO N/S?

Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 8):
Seems like a perfect route for QX when the new 8-400's start arriving.

I agree! The Q400 would be perfect for this route...not to mention many other intra-California hops as well.
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