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El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:10 pm

El AL plans to add a fourth weekly flight to HKG starting in NOV.
Now instead of flying on Sat, Mon and Wed, flights will leave TLV on Sat, Sun, Tues and Wed.
This extra 777 will be available since LY recently substitued 777's with 767 to JFK twice a week on Wed and Sunday.
There was some talk that these 777 that were freed up from the JFK service will go to ICN or Japan.


Flight info from LY website:
03SEP 29SEP 1.3..6. 2225 (TLV) 1415 (HKG) LY 075 777 0 EL AL
03OCT 28OCT 1.3..6. 2125 (TLV) 1415 (HKG) LY 075 777 0 EL AL

29OCT 22DEC .....6. 2055 (TLV) 1345 (HKG) LY 075 777 0 EL AL
29OCT 22DEC .23...7 2125 (TLV) 1415 (HKG) LY 075 777 0 EL AL

01NOV 10MAR ..3...7 1040 (TLV) 1530 (JFK) LY 007 767 0 EL AL
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:13 pm

What date do the 767s go on the TLV-JFK run?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:28 pm

a 767 to JFK?That's disappointing for passengers...no PTVs, older a/c...
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:45 pm

Its all go in Hong Kong.... more new airlines and many carriers adding flights.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:23 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
a 767 to JFK?That's disappointing for passengers...no PTVs, older a/c...

True, but better business class seats  Smile
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 1):
What date do the 767s go on the TLV-JFK run?

Starts Nov, on Sunday and Wed ....

01NOV 10MAR ..3...7 1040 (TLV) 1530 (JFK) LY007 767
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:02 pm

What kind of business/ethnic/travel connections are there between Hong Kong and Israel that makes this flight work? Or do many of the fliers continue into mainland China?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
a 767 to JFK?That's disappointing for passengers...no PTVs, older a/c...

Not really. IIRC LY used to run flights on the TLV-JFK with no movies (or a section without them) to accomodate Orthodox/Hassidic Jews who did not wish to view them. I bet LY will market the 767 flights as "movie-free". That should fill them up in no time (not that it's hard to do so), regardless of the interior condition.

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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Amirs (Thread starter):
This extra 777 will be available since LY recently substitued 777's with 767 to JFK twice a week on Wed and Sunday.

Must be a result of the reduction in service to YYZ/LAX. LY fed up with outrageous user fees at YYZ, and scaling back on its YYZ flights and dropping the tag-on flights to LAX. Wonder if this is a taste of things to come by other airlines.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:37 pm

Quoting Bwi757 (Reply 7):
I bet LY will market the 767 flights as "movie-free".

I seriously doubt that.  Smile

[Edited 2006-06-22 16:38:37]
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:07 am

Oh well, so ends my career in flight ops.

FLYACYYZ's explanation makes the most sense

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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:58 am

A few weeks ago, newspapers reported that LY will start nonstop flights to Japan in September. Since flights to Japan don't seem to be loaded into the timetable that Amirs checked, I doubt LY will start flying there this fall.

Since LY is adding flights to HKG, I also doubt rumors that CX is planning to start service to TLV in late 2006 or early 2007.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:08 am

why do they downgrade to the 763?Not enough demand?
And Amirs, why better business class on the 763?Any PTVs in business?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting LY777 (Reply 12):
why do they downgrade to the 763?Not enough demand?

Keep in mind that it's only twice a week--They will still be running multiple 747s and 777s. It doesn't mean JFK service is losing demand; more likely they needed a 777 to start the service to HKG.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:02 am

why don't they send 763s to Hong Kong?
Anyway, they will receive 2 new 777s next year
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:58 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 12):
why do they downgrade to the 763?Not enough demand?

Actually it will be a "double" downgrade to a 762.
Dont forget this will only be in the winter months, and as Rjpieces already mentioned, this will only be twice a week, the rest of the week LY007 will be opererating a mix of 744 and 777. In addition they will have daily LY001 on 744 and daily LY027 on 777. They will also continue to operate on saturday night LY003 with a 777. I am sure the new nonstop to LAX and nonstop to MIA diverted some the traffic that originally flew via JFK. (yes i know, eventhough the flight to LAX was via YYZ, there were some pax who flew to NY and then continued with AA, CO, DL etc to LAX - same with MIA.)

Quoting LY777 (Reply 12):
And Amirs, why better business class on the 763?Any PTVs in business?

The 767's dont have PTVs, but it does have a very comfortable business class seat. It was installed this year, its "angled lie flat" with a 60' pitch. Some say it is more comfortable than the First Class seats.
As for viewing movies, they just installed some large LCD screens in the 767. Business class pax get personal movie players.

Quoting LY777 (Reply 14):
why don't they send 763s to Hong Kong?

A few reasons ...
1. They just added a 4th flight, i guess they need the capacity. Last year when they added the third HKG, it started on a 762/763 then it quickly converted to 777.
2. They also need the cargo capacity of 777 to HKG.
3. More business class seats and 777 have First Class. Business class and first are almost always full on the HKG flights.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:51 pm

Quoting Max999 (Reply 6):
What kind of business/ethnic/travel connections are there between Hong Kong and Israel that makes this flight work? Or do many of the fliers continue into mainland China?

Lots of Jewish people going for Chinese takeout.......before I get bashed, that was a joke.

This is primarily a business route - Israel has a rather strong, diverse economy for a small nation and HongKong is huge economic/trade center. I am sure that some travellers do continue on to mainland China, other Asian destinations and Australia, but there is good O&D demand on TLV=HKG. There is limited tourist appeal on the route and certainly not much ethnic or friends & family connections on the route - but that is generally low yeild traffic - if EL AL can keep the F and J cabins filled and the cargo hold packed, they will be making money on these flights.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 16):
Lots of Jewish people going for Chinese takeout.......before I get bashed, that was a joke.

This is primarily a business route - Israel has a rather strong, diverse economy for a small nation and HongKong is huge economic/trade center. I am sure that some travellers do continue on to mainland China, other Asian destinations and Australia, but there is good O&D demand on TLV=HKG. There is limited tourist appeal on the route and certainly not much ethnic or friends & family connections on the route - but that is generally low yeild traffic - if EL AL can keep the F and J cabins filled and the cargo hold packed, they will be making money on these flights.

There's a restaurant on the Upper West Side in Manhattan that serves kosher Chinese. Big grin I figure this is probably not the only one in NYC though.

Considering how difficult this flight is (taking a long detour to go around certain airspace)...I'm just surprised that there is enough demand to justify this route's existence.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting Bwi757 (Reply 7):
Not really. IIRC LY used to run flights on the TLV-JFK with no movies (or a section without them) to accomodate Orthodox/Hassidic Jews who did not wish to view them. I bet LY will market the 767 flights as "movie-free". That should fill them up in no time (not that it's hard to do so), regardless of the interior condition.

Not likely, we're talking about the off season here, and with 3 other carriers offering nonstop to the US, it wouldn't make sense to have twice a week all orthodox flight.

However I do think, that the common pax, ones who don't read airliners.net on a regular basis, and don't know which aircraft they're flying on until they reach the airport, would seriously be disappointed to find out that their aircraft isn't equipped with PTVs, if they know that most of LY flights to NYC are, and they "got screwed", especially as this a daylight flight, and most people do not go to sleep. IMHO, a serious service mistake from LY.
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I think that service speaking, at least in Y, the PTVs is the only major advantage LY has on Israir.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:26 pm

IIRC, won't DL be starting TLV-JFK later this year, early 2006 as well? This could be part of LY' decision to use a smaller plane for some flights.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:30 pm

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 19):
IIRC, won't DL be starting TLV-JFK later this year, early 2006 as well? This could be part of LY' decision to use a smaller plane for some flights.

Its two flights per week!!! EL AL is using the 763 on two JFK-TLV flights this winter due to aircraft allocation issues, nothing more, nothing less.

DL has not yet announced JFK-TLV.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 16):
Lots of Jewish people going for Chinese takeout.......before I get bashed, that was a joke.

LOL!  Smile

Quoting Max999 (Reply 17):
There's a restaurant on the Upper West Side in Manhattan that serves kosher Chinese. I figure this is probably not the only one in NYC though.

There are many! I actually was reading a NYC food book the other night and they had a whole section on Jews and Chinese food...Pretty interesting stories there.

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 19):
IIRC, won't DL be starting TLV-JFK later this year, early 2006 as well? This could be part of LY' decision to use a smaller plane for some flights.

They have announced general intentions to start JFK-TLV but nothing firm and no timeline.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 16):
This is primarily a business route - Israel has a rather strong, diverse economy for a small nation and HongKong is huge economic/trade center.

I wonder if most of the traffic originates in Israel or v.v.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 19):
won't DL be starting TLV-JFK later this year, early 2006 as well? This could be part of LY' decision to use a smaller plane for some flights.

Assuming DL starts flights between TLV and JFK, I think they would need to find another 777 to fly this route because they will face tough competition from LY and CO. DL's possible entry into JFK-TLV market should have no bearing on LY's decision to deploy a 762 on this route during the winter season.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:24 am

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 22):
Assuming DL starts flights between TLV and JFK, I think they would need to find another 777 to fly this route because they will face tough competition from LY and CO.

I think DL is planning to deploy 764 on the JFK - TLV route.
Maybe they will downgrade ATL - TLV to 764 and have JFK - TLV with 777 in the future.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting 4xRuv (Reply 18):
However I do think, that the common pax, ones who don't read airliners.net on a regular basis, and don't know which aircraft they're flying on until they reach the airport, would seriously be disappointed to find out that their aircraft isn't equipped with PTVs, if they know that most of LY flights to NYC are, and they "got screwed", especially as this a daylight flight, and most people do not go to sleep. IMHO, a serious service mistake from LY.
There's now an Israir campaign, saying "all carriers have..., why pay more?"
I think that service speaking, at least in Y, the PTVs is the only major advantage LY has on Israir.

I do agree with you.
Honestly, the product would be about the same as Israir if LY flies 763s(or worse 762s)to NY.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting Amirs (Reply 23):

I think DL is planning to deploy 764 on the JFK - TLV route.
Maybe they will downgrade ATL - TLV to 764 and have JFK - TLV with 777 in the future.

The 764 will have range issues with the TLV route from either ATL or JFK - not gonna happen. Just like CO, DL has no choice but to operate their nonstop flights to TLV with the 777......of course the issue is whether DL can free up another 777 to operate JFK-TLV if it was so interested.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:49 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 25):
The 764 will have range issues with the TLV route from either ATL or JFK - not gonna happen. Just like CO, DL has no choice but to operate their nonstop flights to TLV with the 777......of course the issue is whether DL can free up another 777 to operate JFK-TLV if it was so interested.

Why not just stick a 763 on JFK-TLV?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 26):
Why not just stick a 763 on JFK-TLV?

Dont be so logical......no simple answers at a.net>  Smile  Smile
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 26):
Why not just stick a 763 on JFK-TLV?

Probably because the route between TLV and New York is a major source of profit for the airlines that fly it. Flights are almost always full and many customers pay full fare. This route provides LY and CO with a healthy mix of business and leisure travellers. This highly lucrative but competitive route requires that airlines offer their customers advanced, spacious, and comfortable aircraft. If DL re-enters the JFK-TLV market with a daily 763 flight, it may not be able to effectively compete against LY and CO, which fly 744s and 777s on this route. Similarly, Israir will probably need to upgrade its service from a 762 to a larger aircraft if it is to become a long-term player on the JFK-TLV route.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:51 am

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 28):
Israir will probably need to upgrade its service from a 762

Israir operates 763 on the route.

Quoting 4xRuv (Reply 18):
I think that service speaking, at least in Y, the PTVs is the only major advantage LY has on Israir.



Quoting LY777 (Reply 24):
Honestly, the product would be about the same as Israir if LY flies 763s(or worse 762s)to NY.

Sorry you guys, i really disagree with you. Even with a 767,
1. LY has much more comfortable seats, in Y and obviously in C.
2. LY has LCD screens now in their ER 767.
3. LY has 3 - 4 daily frequency on the route.
4. The service and experience cannot be compared.

Let me tell you a the beginning of a short story why to think twice before flying Israir ...

I got my mother a ticket JFK - TLV - JFK with Israir in business because LY was not available the date she wanted to fly. The inbound flight was uneventful. She was suppose to fly back this Saturday night. I called them yesterday to reconfirm and assign her a seat. The agent on the phone from Israir Reservation told me she was downgraded to Economy because they had to change the a/c on the route this week to a NEOS 763, and that a/c does not have business!!!!
He really didnt have any more info. After many minutes of being put on hold and i was told to contact Israir NY.
To make a long story short ... I spoke to an Israir agent in NY who told me they were just going to call me and notify that my mother has a few options. This was at 18:45 thursday evening.
1. To get her money back on that segment - $1200
2. To get the difference back, fly on her original Israir flight but in economy (or rather charter version economy) and then get a free round trip ticket in economy to TLV in the future as compensation.
3. To fly with a "European" airline with a stop in Europe in C class and also get a free roundtrip in the future. Malev, Aerosvit or CSA ONLY !!!!
Non of these option were acceptable. Since it was already last minute i would not be able to find a reasonable priced ticket in C Class to NY so the first option was not acceptable.
She was only interested in flying Business (and definetly not in Israir's economy) so the second wasnt either. I wasnt going to let her fly in one of those "european" airlines with a 3 hour layover so that option was not acceptable either. If they would have offered more reliable airlines. even Iberia or Alitalia it would have been fine. BUT Aerosvit and Malev ???!!!???
This kinda of thing would have never happened on LY. They have the frequency and timetable to offer much better options. I am sure they would have even offered to put her on BA, LX etc Business if they had no other option. Also the way we were treated (No one called us, I accidently found out when i called to assign her a seat).
Though the younger agent I spoke to on the phone in NY was nice, non of the agent had the professionalism and experience that you feel when you speak to LY's resevation system. No one really knew anything here in Israir's Israel office, and i was ent from agent to agent.
After speaking for hours with one of the managers of Israir in NY (he claimed CSA was owned by lufthansa and that both Malev and CSA have a better business class than Israir) i was finally able to convince him that it would be in their best interest to give her a better flight. She didnt even want the compensation on the roundtrip ticket in eceonomy for the future. He ended up putting her on a LY flight, but without issuing a compensation ticket. That's fine she didnt really need it - though it would have been nice after what we went through.
I am sure it would have been treated much much better on LY!!!! You cannot yet compare Israir to LY, even if they operate the same a/c on the route.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:16 pm

of course, Amirs.I agree with you.I was just disappointed.Just a question:what are LCD screens?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:34 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 30):
what are LCD screens?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:08 pm

ok, Amirs, this is what I was thinking about.Nevertheless, I flew LY 767-200ER in April, and I didn't see LCD screens.
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:36 pm

Quoting Amirs (Reply 29):

Sababa, you and your mother felt deceived. Don't you think people who don't know which aircraft will take them would feel deceived when they find out people who paid the exact same price on the exact same route (of course, with the same carrier) got a better service? Don't you think PTVs on an 11 hours flight is something people consider when they select a carrier?
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:42 pm

Now it looks like LY as already starting to use the 762/763 on route to JFK starting July21, probably to free up a 777 to do the nonstop LAX. They will help with the "crazy" summer schedule. Mostly on day flights. LY007/031

I would actually prefer to fly on a 763 - in C class they have the new lie angled flat seats (also on 762) and in Tourist the pitch is 34/35. They will also start to offer DVD players with V.O.D. Not bad.
21JUL 21JUL ....5.. 1200 (TLV) 1735 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
24JUL 24JUL 1...... 1040 (TLV) 1615 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
27JUL 27JUL ...4... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
28JUL 28JUL ....5.. 1215 (TLV) 1750 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
1AUG 03AUG .2.4... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
6AUG 06AUG ......7 0030 (TLV) 0605 (JFK) LY 003 763 0 EL AL
8AUG 08AUG .2..... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
09AUG 09AUG ..3.... 1055 (TLV) 1630 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
10AUG 10AUG ...4... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
11AUG 18AUG ....5.. 1215 (TLV) 1750 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
16AUG 16AUG ..3.... 1040 (TLV) 1615 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
17AUG 24AUG ...4... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
21AUG 21AUG 1...... 1040 (TLV) 1615 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
22AUG 29AUG .2..... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 763 0 EL AL
23AUG 23AUG ..3.... 1055 (TLV) 1630 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
31AUG 31AUG ...4... 0800 (TLV) 1335 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
20SEP 24SEP ..3.... 0630 (TLV) 1205 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
26SEP 26SEP .2..... 0950 (TLV) 1525 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
28SEP 28SEP ...4... 0040 (TLV) 0615 (JFK) LY 003 763 0 EL AL
10OCT 24OCT .2..... 0850 (TLV) 1525 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
11OCT 25OCT ..3.... 0530 (TLV) 1205 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
12OCT 19OCT ...4... 0040 (TLV) 0715 (JFK) LY 003 763 0 EL AL
17OCT 24OCT .2..... 0850 (TLV) 1525 (JFK) LY 007 763 0 EL AL
18OCT 25OCT ..3.... 0530 (TLV) 1205 (JFK) LY 031 762 0 EL AL
19OCT 26OCT ...4... 0040 (TLV) 0715 (JFK) LY 003 763 0 EL AL

and then will start ...
29OCT 10MAR ..3...7 1040 (TLV) 1530 (JFK) LY 007 767 0 EL AL
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:30 pm

the 763 that will be used is the latest 763 LY received last month?
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amirs
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:06 pm

Quoting LY777 (Reply 35):
the 763 that will be used is the latest 763 LY received last month?

it will be both 4x-EAJ, EAP (EAP is the "newer" one).
The 762 will probably be 4x-EAE, EAF.
 
LY777
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:16 am

4X-EAC and 4X-EAD never fly to the US from what I heard.Why???Are EAE and EAF more comfortable?
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amirs
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:44 am

EAE and EAF have a bit more range and they are about 6 years younger.
 
LY777
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:48 am

Thanks.I would like to try someday the 763 instead of the 762

[Edited 2006-06-25 17:59:57]
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting Amirs (Reply 34):

Thanks for the information...I'm excited about seeing their 767s at JFK.
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon"
 
amirs
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RE: El Al To Add 5 Weekly HKG Flight In FEB

Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:36 am

Starting Feb 18 LY will have 5 weekly flights to HKG, on Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues and Wed.


Also ...

Ly has decided to route its flights to ORD this winter via YYZ instead of EWR.
Starting on October 29 LY will have YYZ - ORD on 767 four times a week, Mon, Wed, Thursday and Sunday.
LY103 will depart YYZ at about 8:00am and arrive into ORD at 8:40 am, the return flight LY104 will depart ORD at 1500 on Thursday arriving around 17:15 into yyz and at 1830 the rest of the days, arriving into yyz at 20:30.
 
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:56 pm

it looks like the folks at LY changed their minds.
It looks like only 777 and 744 will do the JFK route during the winter.
There is no LY007 on sunday anymore, instead its LY003 that leaves at 00:30,
The second flight on the 767 that was suppose to be on Wed, is now scheduled on 744.
 
LY777
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:34 pm

with all what happens in Israel, will LY change their schedule?
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RE: El Al To Add 4 Weekly HKG Flight In NOV

Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:52 pm

lol i work in a kosher chinese restaruant in london called MET SU YAN so now i can holiday with the chinese workers!!!

wat i dont understand is why elal have put the 767s on the lhr tlv route, its one of ther busiest routes, just last week i got back on a 744 and it was packed

any idea why elal changed to this???