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Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:11 pm

Source: luchtvaartnieuws.nl

Transavia announced to base one 737-800 at Eindhoven airport, during weekdays. It will fly to ALC and AGP on mo-fr and twice weekly to FAO. Due to noise regulations, they cannot use the aircraft in the weekends, so in the weekends it will operate flights ex AMS. If noise regulations are widened, the 738 will be base permanently at EIN.

It's an interesting and somewhat strange schedule. Especially the fact that they only serve FAO twice weekly implies that 3 out of the 5 weekdays, the aircraft will only do two rotations per day, that seems too few to me. Will they be offering the aircraft for small charters those days?

All together, Eindhoven airport is growing nicely. Ryanair is adding service every now and then, and from november on they will operate 8 daily flights to 7 destinations. Wizzair recently announced a 3-weekly EIN-BUD service, AF is flying EIN-CDG 3x daily and now Transavia.

If the airport will manage to find a way to reduce noise restrictions, the airport has a great potential for more flights. If it happens, it will most likely to become a Ryanair base, as mentioned often before, and I also see HV adding flights.
 
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:05 pm

Very good news. I use EIN a lot using Ryanair, and now Wizz and Transavia will start flights as well. EIN is a very good airport, minimum parking, check-in times. Also very easy to reach using public transport.

Just a shame they have this 'weekend curfew', not allowing it yet for Ryanair to use it as a base.

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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:11 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 1):
very easy to reach using public transport

How is it to get to Amsterdam? Is there a train? How long does it take?

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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
How is it to get to Amsterdam? Is there a train? How long does it take?

It takes about an hour. There are frequent trains.
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:21 pm

Having that weekend noise curfew is a bit silly?? Why is it in place? That airport seems to have a lot of potential with new routes like these starting up, surely they should lift it??
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:25 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
How is it to get to Amsterdam? Is there a train? How long does it take?

For public tranport, there is a bus to Eindhoven central station that takes 20 minutes, from Eindhoven central to Amsterdam central takes 1:26. There also is a direct privat bus service to Amsterdam that takes 1:30, however I wouldn't bet on that during rush hours.

Eindhoven is not really a realistic alternative for people who come to The Netherlands to visit Amsterdam, those people should just fly to AMS as that is by far the most convenient airport to visit Amsterdam. Eindhoven is also not marketed as "Amsterdam (Eindhoven)" or such as it is just not a real alternative when Amsterdam is your destination.

However, for all Dutch people living in the southern and eastern provinces, as well as people in the north of Belgium, Eindhoven is a very attractive airport to travel from.

The population in the Netherlands is very much spread all over the country and for well over 30% of the Dutch population, Eindhoven airport is closer than Schiphol. However, when traveling with public transport to the airport, Schiphol is still preferable due to the great train connections. (it's a main hub in the intercity network with many direct connections on a 30-minute frequency).
 
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:27 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 3):



Quoting Joost (Reply 5):

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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:30 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 3):
Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
How is it to get to Amsterdam? Is there a train? How long does it take?

It takes about an hour. There are frequent trains.

more precisely it takes 1:26h from the station of Eindhoven to Amsterdam Central station. Trains run every 30 minutes. In between there are also trains to Schiphol every 30 minutes which takes 1:22h. There is a public bus from the airport to the station every 15 minutes which takes 22 minutes. There is also a bus from Amsterdam central station directly to the airport for the Ryanair flights (traveling time of about 90 minutes).
All data according to the schedules at http://www.ns.nl and http://www.eindhovenairport.nl - not from experience...
 
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting Cwldude (Reply 4):
Having that weekend noise curfew is a bit silly?? Why is it in place? That airport seems to have a lot of potential with new routes like these starting up, surely they should lift it??

Environmental powers are very strong in The Netherlands. Many airports have (weekend) curfews, including my own local airport Enschede/Twente (ENS). Also Rotterdam has very strict limits. Next to that, political discussions about disturbance by aviation are often based on opinions, not on facts. And all parties in the process are making many mistakes. Officially, the development of Schiphol, for example should follow a path that increases flying and decreases disturbance - but it is impossible to maintain that, as it does not say which decision you have to take. This 'double-goal' makes it difficult. Well, don't get me started too much on Dutch aviation-politics.

National government is leaning towards increasing flying from regional airports, namely Eindhoven and, after a runway extension, Lelystad. However, regional politicians, NIMBY's and strange laws and regulations are slowing down this process.
 
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:51 am

Are there any weekend flights at Eindhoven?
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting Joost (Reply 8):
Environmental powers are very strong in The Netherlands. Many airports have (weekend) curfews, including my own local airport Enschede/Twente (ENS). Also Rotterdam has very strict limits. Next to that, political discussions about disturbance by aviation are often based on opinions, not on facts. And all parties in the process are making many mistakes. Officially, the development of Schiphol, for example should follow a path that increases flying and decreases disturbance - but it is impossible to maintain that, as it does not say which decision you have to take. This 'double-goal' makes it difficult. Well, don't get me started too much on Dutch aviation-politics.

National government is leaning towards increasing flying from regional airports, namely Eindhoven and, after a runway extension, Lelystad. However, regional politicians, NIMBY's and strange laws and regulations are slowing down this process.

you've said it.. I hate the suckers who say there is noise pollution.. I'm living about 6 years in the vicinity of AMS but you really have to try hard to actually notice a plane.. They better complain about the scooters driving through my street..

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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:00 am

Living pretty close to EIN, we get these flyers every now and then from an interest group that 'represents' us (the people living near the airport), and they keep repeating that they don't want noise regulations for commercial traffic to widen, as long as the military does not restrict their flying from EIN.

I kind of agree that the military should do something about their noise levels. Although I am an aviation enthusiast, military planes like the C130, KDC10 and visiting F16s get a bit annoying after a couple of practice rounds over you neighbourhood (while you're trying to study), and although the AN124s and IL76s are really nice to look at, they aren't exactly quiet.

That does not mean that I don't see the importance of the military practicing, but their should be certain limitations and they should try to get more silent freighters in stead of renting russians.

It also doesn't mean that I agree with the interest group's opinion that commercial limitations won't be widened if the military doesn't restrict themselves. Commercial traffic at EIN is barely noticeable and I therefore would not complain if they take away the restrictions.
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:05 am

Quoting MaartenV (Reply 11):

You're right about your statement.
I'm sure that most of the complaining people around EIN airport even push all the military traffic under "Civil Aircrafts" because they don't now better...
When they see a KDC10 or a F16 passing by at a distance of about 3 to 5 km, they all jelling "That Ryanair airplane make so much noise"...
 
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RE: Transavia To Base 738 At EIN

Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:39 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 9):
Are there any weekend flights at Eindhoven?

Yes, enough. All Ryanair flights for example are daily and STN-double daily, 7 days a week.