Derek1876
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Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:16 pm

Graphic title is Boeing 797


No clue where it came from or who did it.
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:30 pm

I recall seeing this image in a Popular Science magazine several years ago, when Boeing was dabbling with supersonic "flying wing" concepts, before the announcement of the DreamLiner 7E7 project.
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:07 pm

http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/boeing797.html

here is a site depicting the same plane in your image, Derek1876. The article compares it to the A380 in size and as a counter-attack to Airbus.

"Boeing is preparing a 1000 passenger jet that could reshape the Air travel industry for the next 100 years. The radical Blended Wing design has been developed by Boeing in cooperation with the NASA Langley Research Center."

Of course, this design has been left by the wayside as Boeing is developing the 787 and the 748.

[Edited 2006-06-25 06:32:53]
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:16 pm

I've seen that design thrown around for years, as I'm sure most people here have. While I can see them doing something like this for Y3 (on a smaller scale though), I'm fairly certain they will take care of finishing Y2 (which hasn't even been built yet!) and Y1 (which hasn't even begun public development yet!) before they even start considering further butchering their T7 lineups, and pre-emptively butchering their 787-10(11X?)/747-8 lineups.

Not to mention the fact that we've seen the somewhat lukewarm response the A380 has received, there's no reason Boeing would design like the blended wing, especially at a scale that even dwarfs the A380.
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Derek1876
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:12 pm

1000 passengers seems a bit much. Sounds like there is a lot of liability to be found there. Plus with 1000 passengers they would have to be positioned in a way that is not found in today's aircraft which would bring with it an entirely new set of challenges, example being passengers seated out from the longitudinal axis and having more bank angle than a passenger closer to that axis.
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:31 pm

How in the heck would you evacuate that thing in 90 seconds?
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:38 pm

I have the copy of Popular Science (Mechanics?) with this picture in it. The whole issue was about future aviation.
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:04 am

I've seen this too along with a depiction of the cabin layout. The interior passenger cabin has virtually no windows! As a window fanatic (I've got to have a window seat) I would cry if this plane became the standard for aviation!
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:11 am

Is that Edinburgh in the background?

 Smile
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 5):
How in the heck would you evacuate that thing in 90 seconds?

Catapult seats  Big grin
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:47 am

Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 8):
Is that Edinburgh in the background?

Nope, its Seattle  Embarrassment
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:58 am

The same story was also syndicated to a Finnish "science" mag some years ago. I think I kept the issue just for the sake of a number of rediculous (supposedly) flying contraptions. Those fantasy flying barndoor trijets were also accompanied by a multiconfiguration rotating/fixed wing craft that defies all known design paradigms. The names of Boeing and some big American university were also dropped in the article to render an air of credibility.

[Edited 2006-06-25 21:59:10]
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:59 am

Cambridge-MIT institute is doing some research on this aircraft. It also called as silent aircraft.

http://www.cambridge-mit.org/cgi-bin/default.pl?SID=4&SSID=234

The main problem with this design, what will happen when the aircraft turn?  scratchchin  . If you seat at the window away from the centre, what do you think will happen? They still have to find the solution for this.

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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:03 am

that thing looks about as super sonic as i do  Wink

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 5):
How in the heck would you evacuate that thing in 90 seconds?

ejector seats?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Nope, its Seattle

nah dont be silly, its Aberdeen
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 5):
How in the heck would you evacuate that thing in 90 seconds?

Ejection seats all over the place =)!!

Also comes in place with passengers that don't behave!

edit:
ah Garry already said it!  Smile

[Edited 2006-06-25 23:24:58]
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting Oroka (Reply 6):
have the copy of Popular Science (Mechanics?) with this picture in it. The whole issue was about future aviation.

According to Popular Mechanics, the future is butt ugly.  covereyes 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:59 am

I heard somewhere that the reason this hasnt been put into production yet is because of problems with pressurization. Typically, airliners assume a circular shape under pressure but the blended wing brought about problems with this.

Have they gotten around that yet?

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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 8):
Is that Edinburgh in the background?

Nope, its Seattle Embarrassment

Looks like the "future" will also have many non-functional "needle" towers with revolving viewing decks.
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:21 pm

Here's a version that realistically could fly. The body has to be airfoil-shaped, a wing in other words, unlike in the one pictured above. That again will limit the shape of the room for the occupants, but in this age of composites, a solution would be found.




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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:46 pm

What we will likely see are fuselages that blend more effectivly into the lift-providing airfoil. Think about the B2 bomber, it has a fuselage, but its very effectivly blended to minimize drag and radar return.

Some sort of hybrid would also allow for effective "stretch" models to provide incremental capacity growth.
 
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RE: Thought This Was An Interesting Picture

Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 19):
What we will likely see are fuselages that blend more effectivly into the lift-providing airfoil. Think about the B2 bomber, it has a fuselage, but its very effectivly blended to minimize drag and radar return.

Some sort of hybrid would also allow for effective "stretch" models to provide incremental capacity growth.

Good thought.

The hybrid option will also minimize the discomfort of passengers seated further from the center of the plane, as described...

Quoting Derek1876 (Reply 4):
passengers seated out from the longitudinal axis and having more bank angle than a passenger closer to that axis.
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