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Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:58 am

I know JAL, Malev and Royal Jordanian are set to join. Will any mergers take place and will there be any more new members?

Tom
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:39 am

I am sure oneworld will recruit more members in the future. AerLingus is leaving and, as you well say, Royal Jordanian, Japan Airlines and Malev are joining. I would not be surprised to see oneworld court JJ and MX.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:41 am

sorry JJ and MX? dont know my Iata codes yet
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:55 am

Brazil's TAM and Mexico's Mexicana.

JJ has codeshare agreements with American Airlines. MX has agreements with LAN Airlines, Iberia and American Airlines. Supposedly MX will soon unveil agreements with Cathay Pacific and with Qantas.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:55 am

BA787, for some airline codes A.net has built in HTML software for which you can roll the cursor over the acronym to see what it means. This works for some airport codes as well.

For instance, roll your cursor over these two:

BA

LAX

So JJ is TAM and MX is Mexicana.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:09 am

cheers
didnt know that


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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:13 am

In addition to the already-announced new memberships upcoming in the next 12-18 months of Japan Airlines, MALEV, and Royal Jordanian, I could forsee the following airlines definitely fitting well into oneworld:

. Ethiopian (pretty much one of the only viable African carriers left)
. Jet Airways (India's best and biggest airline, growing inside and out of India)
. LANArgentina (a large and growing domestic network in one of South America's largest markets)
. LANEcuador (another link in the LAN chain)
. LANPeru (strong LAN link in South America, and in a large local market)
. Mexicana (strong Mexico presence, obviously, plus good Latin coverage)
. SN Brussels Airlines (a small but viable European carrier, plus good Africa access)
. TAM Brazil (excellent coverage of internal Brazil and all of South America)
. WestJet (although a more low-fare-focused carrier, has good coverage of a huge market, Canada)

In addition, some other airlines that might make it:

. Dragonair (depending on how the Cathay Pacific merger goes, and if it even remains a seperate airline)
. China Eastern (if Dragonair is merged into Cathay, and the alliance still wants another Chinese member)
. Gulf Air (if Royal Jordanian doesn't get too protective of the Mid East turf)
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
Ethiopian (pretty much one of the only viable African carriers left)
. Jet Airways (India's best and biggest airline, growing inside and out of India)
. LANArgentina (a large and growing domestic network in one of South America's largest markets)
. LANEcuador (another link in the LAN chain)
. LANPeru (strong LAN link in South America, and in a large local market)
. Mexicana (strong Mexico presence, obviously, plus good Latin coverage)
. SN Brussels Airlines (a small but viable European carrier, plus good Africa access)
. TAM Brazil (excellent coverage of internal Brazil and all of South America)
. WestJet (although a more low-fare-focused carrier, has good coverage of a huge mark

That would be great. Especially SN Brussels and the LAN chain

Jet would be niice

Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
China Eastern

Would the chines government want two airlines that are in different alliances

Gulf Air would be fantastic. Emirates or Etihad would be better

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:19 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
. LANArgentina (a large and growing domestic network in one of South America's largest markets)
. LANEcuador (another link in the LAN chain)
. LANPeru (strong LAN link in South America, and in a large local market)

LAN Peru is already a member of oneWorld. LAN Ecaudor and LAN Argentina have both stated they will be joining.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
LAN Peru is already a member of oneWorld. LAN Ecaudor and LAN Argentina have both stated they will be joining.

Excellent
I am pleased as I never understood why only part of LAN wasa member
especially when American Eagle is poart of oneworld

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 9):
Excellent
I am pleased as I never understood why only part of LAN wasa member
especially when American Eagle is poart of oneworld

Beacause LAN Argentina and LAN Ecaudor, unlike LAN Peru, are not affiliates of LAN Chile, so must apply independently.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:43 am

It would make sense for WestJet to join Oneworld. After AC bought CP, AA just can't offer the level of service to Canada that UA can with AC. And it would certainly help WestJet by getting more traffic feed from AA at AA's Canadian gateways.
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:54 am

I agree, Mexicana ; TAM and WestJet would make perfect OneWorld members ;

Can you imagine if Emirates decides to join OneWorld that would be a big for OneWorld should it ever happen but don't think it will happen though.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
. Ethiopian (pretty much one of the only viable African carriers left)
. Jet Airways (India's best and biggest airline, growing inside and out of India)

ET has in the past indicated its desire to strengthen ties with LH , and it has been reported at least once recently that they would like to join Star

http://www.atwonline.com/news/other.html?issueDate=6%2F12%2F2006


9W have flirted with absolutely everyone - as well as having an FF tie up with QF they have ff tie-ups with LH , OS and TG all Star members- so they could also go either way ( or with Skyteam for that matter since they also have an FF tie-up with KL )

Quoting Commavia (Reply 6):
. Dragonair (depending on how the Cathay Pacific merger goes, and if it even remains a seperate airline)

most reports I have read say that the identities will be kept separate for a number of years - but I would still expect them to follow CX into OW
( assuming CX stays in OW and doesn't end up falling under CA's power )

Quote:
. China Eastern (if Dragonair is merged into Cathay, and the alliance still wants another Chinese member)

This is one I am sure OW would want , based in Chinas economic powerhouse , and as insurance in case CX ends up being taken over by CA ( don't laugh , anything can happen )

I would also have to see CA as a possible member , in spite of having signed an MOU to join Star , CX have increased their stake in CA .

Quoting BA787 (Reply 7):
Mexicana (strong Mexico presence, obviously, plus good Latin coverage)

not sure whether MX actually want to join another alliance - they were quite happy to engineer their way out of Star , it may not be easy to convince them to get hitched again unless they can see some real benefit from it .

I would also add a wildcard to the list - MH - they clearly would prefer Skyteam but AF seem to have made it pretty clear that they dont want MH even though the KL part of AF/KL is very keen . KUL is a great uncongested South East Asian hub , and if CX were to be prised away from OW due to links with CA then OW would be very thin in its coverage of Asia and would be pretty desperate for another Asian carrier/hub
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:27 am

Hey all I thought I'd post this idea I was watching come on down. I noticed that Airlines have a certain formula when doing these alliances. It is very geographically organized so in a sense JJ and MX make perfect sense. But also let's not forget 9W.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:49 am

I would like to see PK join OneWorld, it would serve them well..especially with their flights out of JFK and ORD...however YYZ would serve well with Star Alliance....

if PK start LAX services, then once again, OneWorld would be well..


also, PK have just started a codeshare with TK.....
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:09 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
I would also add a wildcard to the list - MH - they clearly would prefer Skyteam but AF seem to have made it pretty clear that they dont want MH even though the KL part of AF/KL is very keen

I wonder why AF doesn't want MH inside SkyTeam ...it's a big mistake as the SkyT presence in the Southern Asia, Oz markets is very poor.

Air France is getting wrong about this subject.

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:11 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
they were quite happy to engineer their way out of Star , it may not be easy to convince them to get hitched again unless they can see some real benefit from it .

I think most agree that, ultimately, Mexicana probably would benefit from joining oneworld, especially because of their already strong ties with American, Iberia and LAN. In addition, the barriers to exit that so frustrated Mexicana when it tried to leave Star would be much less with oneworld -- oneworld is much less stringent on getting in and out, and, as far as I know, does not have nearly has stiff a penalty to leave as Star.
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 16):
I wonder why AF doesn't want MH inside SkyTeam

The problem seems to be that AF's relationship with QF (AF flies CDG-SIN and QF flies SIN-SYD and they both codeshare) is working out really nicely and they don't seem to be interested in having someone else help them connect passengers to/from Australia. I really hope that the other SkyTeam members can convince AF to allow MH to join not as an associate but rather as a full member.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:19 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
oneworld is much less stringent on getting in and out, and, as far as I know, does not have nearly has stiff a penalty to leave as Star.

Are you sure about this?

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 18):
The problem seems to be that AF's relationship with QF (AF flies CDG-SIN and QF flies SIN-SYD and they both codeshare) is working out really nicely and they don't seem to be interested in having someone else help them connect passengers to/from Australia.

OK, but it doesn't enough to explain why AF is refusing to say "YES" MH.

In my own point of view, MH is more useful to SkyTeam worldwide network than the newest member SU.

Moreover, KLM is very happy with its cooperation with MH, they are working together for years.

I would like to know the real reason of AF to say "no"  confused  ...MAYBE to show SkyTeam is nearly Air France??
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:30 am

I would love to see WS join oneworld. Perhaps in a few years, Harmony would be a good partner as they have quite the expansion planned out of oneworld's base of YVR.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:36 am

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 19):
MH is more useful to SkyTeam worldwide network than the newest member SU.

Moreover, KLM is very happy with its cooperation with MH, they are working together for years.

I agree, MH would be really useful to the airlines of SkyTeam... not just KL but AF and the U.S. members too. Anyway, hopefully there will be a change of heart within AF.

As a side note, DL has cancelled a substantial portion of its alliance with MH. Now MH is only a mileage accrual partner, but I don't think the two carriers are codesharing anymore. I am not sure exactly what happened, but if someone could shed some light it would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:38 am

Any predictions on who might try and defect form SkyTeam or Star Alliance to join OneWorld? If there are I bet virtually all of them are in SkyTeam since it is by far the shakiest of the three big alliances.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:49 am

Well I heard a rumor EI will defect to Sky Team. Due to the fact that they miss their mid 90's partnership with DL.

Right now I only think CO will defect but to where? Most likely an independent carrier with a lot of codeshare service.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:05 am

Isnt Oneworld the smallest Alliance? I always wondered why since from what i heard it had only the "Best" Carriers lol.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:26 am

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 24):
Isnt Oneworld the smallest Alliance?

Smallest in terms of airlines or smallest in terms of areas covered? Cause members such as AA, BA and QF are HUGE airlines.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
I would also add a wildcard to the list - MH - they clearly would prefer Skyteam but AF seem to have made it pretty clear that they dont want MH even though the KL part of AF/KL is very keen . KUL is a great uncongested South East Asian hub , and if CX were to be prised away from OW due to links with CA then OW would be very thin in its coverage of Asia and would be pretty desperate for another Asian carrier/hub

MH is going to SkyTeam. In March the CEOs of AF and MH talked about their differences and one of the things that came out of the meeting was a more extensive codeshare agreement. I think we will see MH join SkyTeam some time towards the end of their restructuring--maybe late 2007 but probably 2008 some time. Expect an annoucement soon if they are planning a 2007 entry because CZ just announced earlier this month they will be joining SkyTeam in 2007.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:43 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 26):
MH is going to SkyTeam

That's clear ...but just like Kiwiandrew says, AF "seem to have made it pretty clear that they dont want MH" ...and many people say the same thing.

In the past, AF refused and said "no" to a join of MH into SkyTeam.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:21 am

Quoting Jayce (Reply 20):
Harmony would be a good partner as they have quite the expansion planned out of oneworld's base of YVR

I agree with you on this one. Well, I was just talking to one of the FA's on Harmony about two weeks ago. And that the airline in the future wants to join One World.

But I guess they kind of have a long way to go? But on the other hand, they started sharing mileage with JL flights. But the flights don't have JL flight numbers do they?
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 24):
Isnt Oneworld the smallest Alliance? I always wondered why since from what i heard it had only the "Best" Carriers lol.

Dude, you answered your own question. oneWorld is the smallest alliance because they are the most selective and have the "best" airlines. While many on these boards will disagree, with the exception of Iberia, all the airlines' in oneWorld have reputations for exceptional service and quality.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:38 pm

I'd add AA to your exception Mark, but I do agree. The majority of oneworld carriers have a great reputation and they do live up to it. I am very looking forward to my September BA flights in WT+!!!
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 29):
Dude, you answered your own question. oneWorld is the smallest alliance because they are the most selective and have the "best" airlines. While many on these boards will disagree, with the exception of Iberia, all the airlines' in oneWorld have reputations for exceptional service and quality

Have you flown American lately? I just got back from MEX, 3 hour international flight, no movie (only CBS Eye on America), no headsets, no food except the miserable boxes (by the way, no food means NO FOOD, not even pretzels), old AB300 (replacing usual 757), etc. I can accept this on a domestic flight, but international?


It is a total generalization to say one alliance has better quality than another. Singapore and Thai are both in Star; both have equal reputations to Cathay and better than JAL. Finnair is no better than SAS, etc., etc., etc. Iberia, AF and KLM are shadows of what they used to be. All alliances have good and bad.
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:21 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 29):
with the exception of Iberia,

oops! Prepare for the battle! Though I must admit that 95% of all users here agree with you. I can't say i agree cuz i haven't flown them, so i'll stay neutral.


Keeping up with the thread, I agree MX and JJ are crucial members for the Oneworld Alliance. If OW is as selective as they state above, then MX would be a good choice rather their fine service and extense route through out America, except ( Brazil and Chile). Though it all points that MX is heading that way. It will definately be good.


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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 32):
Keeping up with the thread, I agree MX and JJ are crucial members for the Oneworld Alliance. If OW is as selective as they state above, then MX would be a good choice rather their fine service and extense route through out America, except ( Brazil and Chile). Though it all points that MX is heading that way. It will definately be good.

any airline looking at alliance membership needs to examine the cost / benefit relationship - dont forget that MX have already been down this road once with Star and in that case obviously decided that for them the costs outweighed the benefits - I think that they will take a lot of convincing . I read a report that FJ which is very closely tied to QF had been considered as a possible OW member but had decided that it didn't make sense for them . I can see MX hanging around on the fringe for a while yet before taking the plunge , if they ever do ( of course knowing my track record at prediction they will probably be announced next week by OW as an official future member Big grin )
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:47 pm

I think WS would be an interesting choice. I can see them prospering, and becomming the next CP. If they start to expand their routes into other countries, especially europe, they might have a running with AC. I know I'd fly WS over AC
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:56 pm

Ktachiya, at the moment JL flights do not carry the HQ code. I think at the moment they're in the very early stages of a code-share agreement and hopefully, as we suspect, full entry into oneworld won't be too far off.

Have you tried HQ? They are amazing. Reminds me a lot of the old Wardair and even CP.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:01 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 22):
Any predictions on who might try and defect form SkyTeam or Star Alliance to join OneWorld?

May not be a true defection rumore but NZ decided not to move to T1 with NH and other star members. It chose to stay at T2 due to its stronger ties with JL.

You know sometimes I wonder if it would not be smart for a fourth Alliance to be established. There are just too many overlaps.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:13 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 36):
You know sometimes I wonder if it would not be smart for a fourth Alliance to be established. There are just too many overlaps.

I've actually at times suspected there might be a contraction to two with SkyTeam going by the wayside. CO would actually be better off in OneWorld than dealing with the mess that makes up SkyTeam. If NW goes Chapter 7, then I think SkyTeam is done as an alliance. I just don't see CO and DL able to be the lone North American carriers holding this thing together.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:33 pm

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 11):
It would make sense for WestJet to join Oneworld.

I don't see WestJet joining oneworld, nor any other LCC. They wouldn't allow the other members of the alliance to offer full services for it's pax's. ie No business class services.
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:25 pm

yeah, it was said that AeroLingus was leaving because it was moving more towards a lowcost carrier, but that they will stay close with OneWorld.

I wish AS would think about joining an alliance, ONEworld possibly! There are some good airlines out there that aren't part of an alliance, that should be.
Anyways, yes I would hope that AS would think about joining Oneworld, I mean they are Pretty darn close to AA and QF.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:50 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 29):
Dude, you answered your own question. oneWorld is the smallest alliance because they are the most selective and have the "best" airlines. While many on these boards will disagree, with the exception of Iberia, all the airlines' in oneWorld have reputations for exceptional service and quality.

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:10 pm

I think TAM might join oneworld.

[Edited 2006-06-26 11:11:05]
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:07 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
AerLingus is leaving and,

whWhen are they supposed to leave. Guess they were too much of a weak link !
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:15 pm

I think that JJ joining is a real possibility. If and when Varig goes down, I think that TAM will pick up most of the routes, that would add to oneworld's south american network which already has LAN and AA. I dont think that we will see MX joining in the near future.

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:20 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 42):
whWhen are they supposed to leave. Guess they were too much of a weak link !

Um, no... its because they receive little benefit from Oneworld being that British Airways, also a member, is only a stone's throw away from Dublin.
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 44):

Um, no... its because they receive little benefit from Oneworld being that British Airways, also a member, is only a stone's throw away from Dublin.

It's also because OW could not provide a consistent product on all their flights. I am not bashing EI, I love them and it is too bad they left OW.

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 42):
When are they supposed to leave

Early 2007. The airline is planning flights to Asia and more US destinations. Aer Lingus' main input to OW was Irish passengers into LHR to fly with BA and other OW airlines but now Aer Lingus fly to Dubai and many passengers connect with EK and fly onwards to Australia and Asia. Aer Lingus and Emirates seem to be forming a relationship and we could see EK in Dublin by next year.
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 26):
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
I would also add a wildcard to the list - MH - they clearly would prefer Skyteam but AF seem to have made it pretty clear that they dont want MH even though the KL part of AF/KL is very keen . KUL is a great uncongested South East Asian hub , and if CX were to be prised away from OW due to links with CA then OW would be very thin in its coverage of Asia and would be pretty desperate for another Asian carrier/hub


MH is going to SkyTeam. In March the CEOs of AF and MH talked about their differences and one of the things that came out of the meeting was a more extensive codeshare agreement. I think we will see MH join SkyTeam some time towards the end of their restructuring--maybe late 2007 but probably 2008 some time. Expect an annoucement soon if they are planning a 2007 entry because CZ just announced earlier this month they will be joining SkyTeam in 2007.

What a shame. MH is a nearly perfect fit for oneworld, sitting as it does midway between the CX and QF markets.

Joining an alliance which has no Kangaroo partners makes no sense for an airline from SE Asia. Plus, CX and QF represent countries which have close economic and social ties to Malaysia; and London (BA) is considered as almost a second home by many Malaysians of all races: Malays, Chinese and Indians.

Shame.......
 
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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:59 am

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Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 46):
Aer Lingus and Emirates seem to be forming a relationship and we could see EK in Dublin by next year.

Wish EK would join OW. Would make sense as OW need another Middle Eastern Carrier as Royal Jordanian (is it RJ?) are too small in my view.

In fact I think both Malev and RJ are too small for the alliance. What do they offer OW (other than pristine service).

I like OW being selective and I think they have the best group of airlines. I beria is improving dramatically, read the latest "Airliners". And to be blunt AA is working with a tired old fleet with underpaid staff who dislike management. They will improve when they get a new fleet.

Quoting Ualcsr (Reply 31):
Have you flown American lately? I just got back from MEX, 3 hour international flight, no movie (only CBS Eye on America), no headsets, no food except the miserable boxes (by the way, no food means NO FOOD, not even pretzels), old AB300 (replacing usual 757), etc. I can accept this on a domestic flight, but international?

This is poor but lets be honest, it is only just international. And the AB300 is great. Apreciate it more as it is lacking over here.

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RE: Oneworld Future Members?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 48):
This is poor but lets be honest, it is only just international. And the AB300 is great. Apreciate it more as it is lacking over here.

Your kidding right..AA's A300's are a disgrace, apart from the fact they went past their sell by dates about 5 years ago, god only knows how many times those babies must go technical. i for one had the pleasure of having two go tech on me on route to SJU on the same day...never again. However you fly LH's A300 and they are a completely different world!

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