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737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:32 am

anyone, who is the operator that operates the Swiss flag looking NGs across the Atlantic? Thanks
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:37 am

I'm pretty sure those are all-business configured A319's, not 73G's.
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:39 am

PrivatAir operate B737s and A319s across the Atlantic for LH. About 50 business class seats.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:39 am

It is PrivatAir. They operate the A319CJ and BBJ across the atlantic.

Here is their website: http://www.privatair.com/

Thanks
Mike

[Edited 2006-06-25 23:42:42]
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:40 am

PrivatAir operates both 73NGs and A319CJs across the Atlantic for KLM and LH. They serve EWR, ORD, IAH amongst the US cities.

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:40 am

PRIVATAIR, the Swiss Company, operating for LH,SR and KL.

The fly BBJ1 and BBJ2 aircraft (not 73Gs or 738s) with a low density all biz class interior. They also fly A319CJs.

Aside from EWR, they also fly from Chicago and recently added a IAH-AMS route for KL.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 1):
I'm pretty sure those are all-business configured A319's, not 73G's

The airline is PrivatAir. They operate all business class services for a number or airlines using both Airbus and Boeing products.


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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting EssentialPowr (Thread starter):
anyone, who is the operator that operates the Swiss flag looking NGs across the Atlantic?

It's Privatair. They operate a mixed fleet of A319s and 737 BBJs of both BBJ1 and BBJ2 types, and I believe they also have at least one 757 in their fleet.

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:47 am

Thank you all, that was fast!!!
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:01 am

Hey, here is a complete fleet list:

Airbus A319 1 Aircraft in fleet
Airbus A319 LR 1 Aircraft in fleet
Boeing 757-200 1 Aircraft in fleet
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet
Global 5000 1 Aircraft in fleet
Global Express 1 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream IV-SP 2 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream IV 4 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream III 5 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream II-SP 1 Aircraft in fleet
Gulfstream 200 1 Aircraft in fleet
Embraer Legacy 1 Aircraft in fleet
Challenger 604 1 Aircraft in fleet
Challenger 601-3A 2 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 2000EX 1 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 2000 1 Aircraft in fleet
Falcon 900 EX 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation X 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation Encore 1 Aircraft in fleet
Citation II 1 Aircraft in fleet
Hawker 700 1 Aircraft in fleet
Hawker 400XP 1 Aircraft in fleet
Learjet 60 2 Aircraft in fleet
Learjet 55 2 Aircraft in fleet
King Air 350 1 Aircraft in fleet
Beech 1900C 1 Aircraft in fleet

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:36 am

wow .. that's fleet variety.  Smile

You could just about put that B1900 inside the 757, too ...

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:42 pm

OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s. I take it those are owned by ..someone else (other than leasing companies?) and just flown/operated in Privateair colours?
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 11):
OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s.

This should answer your question :

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
Airbus A319 1 Aircraft in fleet
Airbus A319 LR 1 Aircraft in fleet



Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet

The Boeing Business Jet are the 737s (They have 737 - BBJs)

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:06 pm

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 11):
OK that lists only 2 319s and no 737s. I take it those are owned by ..someone else (other than leasing companies?) and just flown/operated in Privateair colours?

Hey,

As GCDEG says above, the following entry in the list:

Quote:
Boeing Business Jet 3 Aircraft in fleet

They are actually B737's. I am not sure, but i think 2 are B73GW's and the other is a B738W. They are called BBJ (Boeing Business Jet) because of their interior and i beleive they have some range changes aswell.

Thanks
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:23 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 13):

They are actually B737's. I am not sure, but i think 2 are B73GW's and the other is a B738W. They are called BBJ (Boeing Business Jet) because of their interior and i beleive they have some range changes aswell.

They have rather significant structural modifications from the baseline aircraft. The wing structures and fuselage are reinforced for higher gross weights, the fuel system is more sophisticated to allow for auxillury tanks, etc.

It's not simply the configuration, they are a different type of aircraft.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:29 pm

How about WN introducing service to LTN using 737-700ER aircraft? How do you think that would go over with our friends across the pond?
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:32 pm

GCDEG wrote:
The Boeing Business Jet are the 737s (They have 737 - BBJs)

Of course I only realized I probably skimmed over `BBJs' after I could no longer edit my message. i.e. `Doh!'
Pretty tight operation using 3 737s and 2 319s then.
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:35 pm

Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 15):
How about WN introducing service to LTN using 737-700ER aircraft? How do you think that would go over with our friends across the pond?

Joking aside, there have been murmurings that Westjet and Continental are looking at this possibility. I continue to hear rumours that EWR-ABZ with CO is on the cards - with particualr emphasis on the large oil company, high yield spend.

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:47 am

If you go to their website and read the statement about how they are evaluating both the 787 and the A350, you will see that in the editor statement, they mention that they operate 4 A319 aircraft.

http://www.privatair.com/media_center/articles/May_4_2006.pdf
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:53 am

Regarding the A319s, two operate for LH out of DUS-EWR/ORD and two operate for Airbus.

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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:01 am

The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:03 am

Quoting BA84 (Reply 20):
The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.

Is this really true - its certainly not what KL had in mind when it launched the all J class flight between IAH and AMS.....any further info?
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:04 am

Both ways?
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
PRIVATAIR, the Swiss Company, operating for LH,SR and KL

Just a little bit of nitpicking...  Wink ... they're not operating for SR, because SR doesn't exist any more - they're operating for LX.

Quoting BA84 (Reply 20):
The AMS-IAH service makes a fuel stop at Gander.

You sure? Because it certainly isn't scheduled that way - KL661 (B747-400 Mixed) is scheduled as 10:10 to 13:20 (10 hours 10 minutes flying time), KL663 (B737 BBJ) as 15:05 to 18:55 (10 hours 50 minutes flying time); 40 minutes more with a slower plane doesn't sound like there's any room left for a stop at Gander.

On the way back, the flying time only differs by 20 minutes (9 hours 20 to 9 hours 40).
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:18 am

Westbound, depending on headwinds.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:18 am

Air Private is as well the transporter of USA Soccer team during the 2006 World Cup if i'm not wrong. I think I saw they arriving Germam on a Air Private A319.
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting Leskova (Reply 23):

Just a little bit of nitpicking... ... they're not operating for SR, because SR doesn't exist any more - they're operating for LX.

Woops, old age, sorry.
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 26):
Woops, old age, sorry.

Nah... don't worry - some of my colleagues (people who issue airline tickets the whole day) still call LX Swissair, just as much as they still refer to SN as Sabena...  rotfl  ... I usually manage to confuse them whenever someone says something like "Is that flight number allowed with our Sabena fares?", because I'll usually reply with something like "I seriously doubt that, considering that Sabena hasn't had flight numbers for a couple of years now"... Big grin ... and a few of them are younger than I am...  Wink
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:42 pm

I will be flying with Privatair next week, AMS-IAH. Will provide trip report later on in the week.Intresting about the Gander stop.
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:48 pm

EuroFly are also operating an A319 from JFK/MXP in b/c confirgeration
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:08 pm

Quoting Daddy1 (Reply 28):
I will be flying with Privatair next week, AMS-IAH. Will provide trip report later on in the week.Intresting about the Gander stop.

Looking forward to read it; I just booked an award ticket on KL663 AMS-IAH for End of January 2007 a few days ago with return out of SFO on the MD11 ...
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:25 pm

Quoting Daddy1 (Reply 28):
I will be flying with Privatair next week, AMS-IAH. Will provide trip report later on in the week.Intresting about the Gander stop.
Regards Daddy1..............

Daddy1, I'd be interested to know when and how the Gander stop is announced to passengers, if it happens. If you do re-fuel at YQX, try to ask a pilot how often this technical stop occurs. Also, how many pilots, 2 or 3 ?
 
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RE: 737 NGs Across The Atlantic

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting Thering (Reply 25):
Air Private is as well the transporter of USA Soccer team during the 2006 World Cup if i'm not wrong. I think I saw they arriving Germam on a Air Private A319.

That's correct. The US team flew over with LH EWR-HAM on June 1. The EWR-DUS flight did not operate that day to accomodate the team's flight.

Also, on a side note. The DUS-ORD-DUS flight today will be operated with a 73W configured with only 28 seats. It has a lounge area with leather sofas and a coffee table. Nice surprise for those lucky passengers.

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