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JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:21 pm

JetBlue operates many overnight flights, particularly from the West Coast to the East Coast, and on some JFK-Caribbean services, like JFK-SJU-JFK. How are its overnight domestic services received? I ask because WN does not operate, at least to my knowledge, any overnight flights.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:32 pm

WN does not operate "red eye flights" as they use that time to do routine aircraft repairs, since there planes are so busy during the day.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:34 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
WN does not operate "red eye flights"

Which are still overnight flights.

How long, on average, do the "routine repairs" take?
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
How are its overnight domestic services received?

most of the time that i flew B6 on red eye flight it was alawys full booked, Specially on Sunday night i know couple of my friends who alaways prefer the red eye one so they can make it back to work early monday and i lots of people think the same way.

I love JetBlue inflight service they are nice alawyas friendly, the last flight i took was DEN-JFK and i had my baby girl with me and everybody was very very very nice to us and they kept getting her toys and snakes during the 4 hours flight. Comparing to some Legacy one in particular LH when my wife was flying to europe she told me that they are way far from being kids friendly.

that's my 2 cents, hope it helps
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:46 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
How are its overnight domestic services received?

Some people prefer red-eyes; others don't. But people do like low fares and will take the B6 redeyes if need be. B6 has no problem operating these flights. If memory serves me correct, some pax in the Carib even prefer these weird departure times.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:54 pm

Thanks a lot, Captain.  Smile

What do you think would be the minimum distance (with the difference included) to make an overnight flight worthwhile? West Coast/NV/WA/OR/AZ-East Coast seem obvious. Absolutely hypothetically, what about, say, LAX-MDW? With a block time of about 3 hours and 55 minutes and the time difference, it could, for example, leave LAX at 1155pm and arrive into MDW at 650am. Or what about LAS-BNA? Block time 3 hours 40 minutes. It could leave at, say, 1230am and arrive at 610am. Do you think those kind of flight times and time differences would be suitable?
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:12 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):

yes the time is suitable

AC does sometimes red eyes LAS-YUL time difference is 2 hours and flight time is about 3.5 to 4 hours depending of wind...
 
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):
Do you think those kind of flight times and time differences would be suitable?

yes actually it would be perfect B6 operates a red eye flight from DEN-JFK leaves 12:55 am arrives 6:35 which makes it perfect to go to your home change and go to work.
for the routes you choosed LAX-MDW LAS-BNA it would be the same perfect timming and very suitable and remmber also the prices are cheaper for red eye flights which make it more convenent for lots of people.
Plus you forgot that the entertainment in B6 is one of the best ( Direct TV with more than 36 CH.) free snakes and ask for drinks as much as you can.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:32 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):

Heck, AA even operates LAS-DFW red-eyes, which is a 2h29 minute flight. Leaves LAS at 0040, arriving in DFW at 0509. I believe HP also operates several short-stage red-eyes that leave LAS between 0100-0200 and arrive in their destinations between 0400-0500.

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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 8):
Heck, AA even operates LAS-DFW red-eyes

Exactly, was just going to mention that one. UA also both have LAX-ORD red-eyes (as well as UA from PDX and both from SEA).

My personal favorite is what I call the "reverse red-eye". Where you go AGAINST the time chance. TA summer schedule has those from BOS and JFK to SAL. Leave BOS or JFK at ~3AM, get in ~6AM. Flight time for 5 hours, but 2 hour time difference BACK! (So wherease even with an LAX-DFW red-eye, you have 2-3 hours on plane + 2 hour time chance = 4-5 hours time elapsed, you only have ~3 hours time elapsed!!)
 
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:30 am

'Red eyes' have to be carefully scheduled as some airports have curfews, like no ops between 12:01 am and 5:59 am for example. LAX, LAS, JFK, DFW don't seem to have any curfews for example. Often overnight times are utilized for freight aircraft, especially by FedEx, DHL, UPS and specialty freight haulers. Of course, most (Eastbound) travel to Europe from North America is done on 'overnight' flights. As to the Carribbean overnight flights, the usual warm climate, especially hot daytimes, may make it preferrable to travel during the night by people.
 
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:56 am

The best red-eye I ever took was LY 1 TLV-JFK. It has a scheduled departure time of 1AM...We took off around 1:30/2ish, I immediately passed out and woke up somewhere over Nova Scotia! You land at JFK around 6AM having had a full night's sleep.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:48 am

The actual flight time of the given flights doesn't necessarily make it a redeye; it's more or less the departure/arrival times. I recently worked MCO-BQN-MCO with a 2hr 10min sit in BQN. So we left MCO at 11pm, and got back just after 7am; the flights themselves were only about 2 and a half hours long.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 12):
The actual flight time of the given flights doesn't necessarily make it a redeye; it's more or less the departure/arrival times. I recently worked MCO-BQN-MCO with a 2hr 10min sit in BQN. So we left MCO at 11pm, and got back just after 7am; the flights themselves were only about 2 and a half hours long.

Why do they have the 2H10M turn in BQN? To allow it to land at MCO during normal hours?
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:16 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
JFK-SJU-JFK. How are its overnight domestic services received?

Think about it...!! You take off at 10pm.. sleep on the plane, check into the hotel and your on the beach with an adult beverage by 10am...how sweet is that..!!!!

Now going west to east it's almost a given with the four time zones and travel time. Remember, if it's noon on the west coast, it's 4pm on the east coast.... with a 4-5 hour flight thats makes your arrival time 10pm...so you really can't leave the west coast after 2pm or you'll get into the east coast after midnight. By leaving at 10pm or later that gets you into the east coast around 6am and the start of a new business day.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:16 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 6):
AC does sometimes red eyes LAS-YUL time difference is 2 hours

LAS is Pacific Time, so it is 3 hrs difference. Mtn/Central/Eastern.
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RE: JetBlue's Overnight Flights

Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
Why do they have the 2H10M turn in BQN? To allow it to land at MCO during normal hours?

Something like that; my guess is that it's probably cheaper to have it sit in BQN rather than MCO, hence the lengthy turn time. When the aircraft arrives at MCO, however, it continues on to EWR (changing crews, of course). All about timing  smile 
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