haggis79
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GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:21 pm

Hi everyone,

first of all, greetings from Germany from a freshly created member  Smile As this is my first post on a.net please don't bash me too hard if I chose the wrong forum to post in etc.  Wink

I am going to fly from Nuremberg, Germany to Salt Lake City on Air France and Delta next week, and as I'm also a amateur yachtsman I own a GPS handheld. So I was wondering, if it would be ok to use this device on the inner-Europe and inner-US flights (basically when there's no IFE which provides this information) to keep track of where we are (kindly asking the crew before, of course). Do you think that would be all right or am I in danger of being treated as a terrorist suspect for just asking?

Thanks for your thoughts,
Harald
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777STL
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:23 pm

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
Do you think that would be all right or am I in danger of being treated as a terrorist suspect for just asking?

You should be alright, be reasonably discreet about it is what I would suggest.
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jhooper
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:53 am

Welcome to A.net! Most they can do is say no, but it's probably fine as long as it doesn't have a transmitting function and is put away when they ask you not to use electronic devices.
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chase
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:33 am

Haggis79,

I think you chose the right forum to post in, however there have been threads in the past covering this topic. The best resource I can suggest to you is this page:
http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm

I am a GPS nut and always have it on when I am flying on an airline that allows it (when above 10000 ft). However, when the flight attendant comes near me, I'll admit I usually hide the GPS between the window glass and my shoulder  Smile
 
JAFA
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:29 am

At NWA GPS' are allowed above 10,000 feet just like ay other electronic device. I have only seen about 3 people using them on all the flights I work.
 
airmailer
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
I own a GPS handheld. So I was wondering, if it would be ok to use this device on the inner-Europe and inner-US flights

Welcome to A.Net

I was on several flights a couple of weeks ago and I can't remember if it was FL or DL but one of them the F/A making the announcements specifically included GPS devices as one of the item banned during the duration of the flight.

(So just don't let them see you with it.)
 
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:34 pm

Quoting AirMailer (Reply 5):
Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
I own a GPS handheld. So I was wondering, if it would be ok to use this device on the inner-Europe and inner-US flights

Welcome to A.Net

I was on several flights a couple of weeks ago and I can't remember if it was FL or DL but one of them the F/A making the announcements specifically included GPS devices as one of the item banned during the duration of the flight.

(So just don't let them see you with it.)

When I fly Continental, the on board magazine states that GPS may be used above 10K ft. Not a problem anymore, if a flight attendant says that they are not legal, he/she doesn't know what they are talking about.

regards,
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zvezda
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:43 pm

The idea that the local oscillator of a GPS receiver could interfere with the aircraft transcends absurd. It is several orders of magnitude weaker than the transmission strength of a cell phone when no call is active. Since every flight in the world has at least one cell phone onboard that is switched on and none have ever caused a serious incident, the chances of a GPS receiver causing a problem are about the same as your chances of measuring the speed of a subatomic particle with your naked eye. Just be discreet, because most FAs don't understand E&M.
 
DBCooper
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:50 pm

I have used mine on AA with no issues...although I have not used it recently.


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VHXLR8
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:51 pm

The use of GPS devices onboard would vary from country to country i'm sure.
In Australia, it is allowed, but this is a very new development; so F/As may still ask you to switch them off, if this is the case, you must comply with their instructions regardless.
 
chase
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting AirMailer (Reply 5):
(So just don't let them see you with it.)

I really hate that sentiment. If they say it's banned, don't freaking use it, because disobeying crew instructions is breaking the law. They could say picking your nose is banned. Obviously picking your nose won't cause the plane to fall out of the sky, but if they ban it and you do it, you're breaking the law.
 
haggis79
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RE: GPS Handhelds Allowed On Board During Flight?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:30 pm

Quoting Chase (Reply 10):
They could say picking your nose is banned. Obviously picking your nose won't cause the plane to fall out of the sky, but if they ban it and you do it, you're breaking the law.

not too sure about the picking your nose thing, but apart from that I fully agree with you, I certainly won't use a GPS onboard without approval of the crew. I think I'll just give it a try - thanks for your thoughts everyone!
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