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787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:54 pm

Why isn't Boeing offering a 787-style interior on the 747-8? The 747-8 is using a Boeing Signature Interior, originally found on the 777, then on the 767-400ER, then on newer 767-200s and 767-300s, and then on the 747-400ER. The 787-style interior features larger bins and has a more open feeling. The only issue of using a 787-style interior is the windows. The 747-8 is using the 777/767-400ER-style windows. However, not all aircraft with the Boeing Signature interior use the 777-style windows (such as newer 767-200s/767-300s and the 747-400ER). It would have been wiser for Boeing to use a 787-style interior, but with 777-style windows IMO.

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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:57 pm

Actually, I think they are, just modified a bit.
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 1):
Actually, I think they are, just modified a bit.

I have seen the video tour of the interior of the 747-8, and the interior of the main cabin looked like that of the 777.
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:17 pm

True, but I believe the bins will be 787 style. The rest will be 777 style. A hybrid if you will.
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:07 am

What is the difference between the 777 and 787 interiors anyway? The bins looks very similar. The overhead consoles look to be the same. The high arched ceiling probably isn't possible due to the upper deck. The large windows are a feature of a composite fuselage. Seats are a customer specified thing. What's left?
 
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Grantcv (Reply 4):
What is the difference between the 777 and 787 interiors anyway? The bins looks very similar. The overhead consoles look to be the same. The high arched ceiling probably isn't possible due to the upper deck. The large windows are a feature of a composite fuselage. Seats are a customer specified thing. What's left?

The bins on the 787 are slightly larger, and the handles for the bins are vertical. The area for the center bins and PSUs are more rounded. The ceiling is also lower on aircraft with the Boeing Signature Interior.

Comparison (vs. 777-style interior on a 767-400ER):


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One thing that I have not seen on the 787 are the No Smoking/Fasten Seat Belt/Lavatory signs. I would think they would use symbols, and have white LEDs lighting.

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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:26 am

Isn't the 787 interior lighter than the 777 interior?
 
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:55 am

Quoting NorCal (Reply 6):
Isn't the 787 interior lighter than the 777 interior?

I would think so, as the paneling is higher and closer to the edge of the fuselage. However, the LED lighting is also lighter than fluorescent lighting. And of course, the larger windows also reduce weight.

On future 777s, Boeing should consider using a 787-style interior. The Boeing Signature Interior (777-style) was successful with passengers, that it was adopted on other aircraft, such as the 767-400ER, newer 767-200s/767-300s, the 747-400ER, and the 747-8. Out of those though, only the 767-400ER and 747-8 have the 777-style windows. Also, the interior on the 737NG is loosely based on the Boeing Signature Interior, with a curved ceiling. However, the bins are not pivot-style. Hopefully the 787 interior will be a success to passengers, and become Boeing's "new Signature Interior".
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RE: 787-style Interior On 747-8 - Why Not?

Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
And of course, the larger windows also reduce weight.

How so exactly? I'm no structures expert, but from my research any opening in a pressurized fuselage ultimately adds to the weight of the airframe, be it through the weight of the door/window/access panel itself or the reinforcement around the opening.
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