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Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:01 am

As DL763DFW pointed out on another thread about forthcoming Delta wide-body procurements and firming of existing orders. CEO Jerry Grinstien all but set in stone that DL is committed to the 772 for the wide-body fleet. Assuming that these are indeed the 772-200LR model that was more than likely inferred to by Grinstien in his email chat with DL employees, what routes would DL put these new a/c on?
ATL-JNB
ATL-DEL
ATL-BOM
ATL-PEK
To maximize the feed, would they originate elsewhere before going to ATL, JFK or LAX like CVG or perhaps even SLC getting some regular 777 action from DL?
Any straightforward ideas?
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:08 am

ATL SYD

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:42 am

Hopefully SYD, the sooner the better.  Smile  Smile  Smile
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:45 am

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 1):
ATL SYD

My god, talk about beating Qantas to the punch.

But, I don't think even the long-legged 772LR can make that one. (I could be wrong.)
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:47 am

I think people are jumping to conclusions, from the refered to thread the comments about the 777s were not meant to infer DL ordered the 777-200LR. Rather they have two more 777-200ER's which are their "long haul" aircraft.

It would make no sense for DL to order 2 777-200LR's for a couple of reasons.

1.) the 777-200LR is GE 90 powered, DL's 777s are RR powered.

2.) Having only two of one type is a total waste as no other aircraft can sub for them, if you launch say ATL-JNB the same two planes will just go back and forth on the same route which is a total waste. And when they have to go for maintenance there is no other sub.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:52 am

ATL-PEK
JFK-SYD
JFK-MEL
ATL-MEL
JFK and ATL- Ganton, china
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:58 am

would you please get over your engine commonality fetish? Engines are meant to stay on-wing for years at a time and overhauls for small fleets are contracted out. As it is, I believe AA does overhauls on the Trent 892s on DL's current 777s. And as has been pointed out, DL has operated a dual fleet of GE and PW 767s for years.

ATL and JFK to India and HKG. PEK doesn't really need an LR.

And has been pointed out, DL will not necessarily buy a boatload of LRs depending on what they do w/ the 787. The LR will have a range advantage over the 787 but on a very few routes. It is doubtful that DL will order any more LRs than they need to do serve that handful of routes and satisfy DL's order requirements to Boeing.

The real factor in DL's order book is the 737NG orders. DL is under much less hurry to order those now. If Boeing doesn't allow DL to slip those orders any further (I believe there are more than 50), DL could convert a number of those to either the 787 or Worldliners.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:01 pm

I was thinking maybe ATL-SYD....but does it have the range? I know Qantas and boeing have been going over the program to see if it could do SYD-DFW i guess the latest verdict it can, so could it do a bit longer stretch to ATL?

other cities could possibly be ATL-DXB or ATL-PEK
 
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Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:03 pm

The answer is simple, add hish kits to MD-80's and buy 787's, 737's.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:15 pm

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 1):
ATL SYD



Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
But, I don't think even the long-legged 772LR can make that one. (I could be wrong.)



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 6):
I was thinking maybe ATL-SYD....but does it have the range?



Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 7):
I was thinking maybe ATL-SYD....but does it have the range?

Yes the 772LR can do that route.

ATL-SYD 8,068NM
DFW-SYD 7,454NM

Boeing's site still lists the 772LR range at 9,420NM.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:13 pm

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 9):
Yes the 772LR can do that route.

ATL-SYD 8,068NM
DFW-SYD 7,454NM

I don't think it's that simple. What kind of payload can the 772LR take when it's going 9420 nm? Styrofoam? Let's not forget, QF originally turned down buying 772LRs for SYD-DFW. I wonder why...

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 6):
would you please get over your engine commonality fetish?

As they say in Detroit, "Exactically."
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 5):
JFK-SYD
JFK-MEL
ATL-MEL

Australia seams to be a very popular place for fans of the widget. Can DL really offer a competitive route there with Qantas and United dominating travel to/from the US? The 772LR is one that can reach half a world away in longitude as well as latitude.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:34 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Thread starter):
To maximize the feed, would they originate elsewhere before going to ATL, JFK or LAX like CVG or perhaps even SLC getting some regular 777 action from DL?
Any straightforward ideas?

If they only had two, it would definitely be JFK-BOM. This route holds huge profit potential, but I'm skeptical that the 772ER will be able to do it reliably year-round.

Following that, if they got more of the planes, I'd expect to see the following:

ATL-JNB (drop the tech stop in DKR)
ATL-HKG
ATL-BOM
ATL-CPT (if JNB does well)
JFK-HKG
JFK-PVG

No point in wasting 777LR on routes like TLV, PEK, etc. where the range isn't necessarily needed compared with the 777ER.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:44 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 12):
If they only had two, it would definitely be JFK-BOM. This route holds huge profit potential, but I'm skeptical that the 772ER will be able to do it reliably year-round.

Which is why I'm suspecting that some of these 772s DL is going to firm-up next month can and will be the LR.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 12):
ATL-JNB (drop the tech stop in DKR)

They will need a 772LR to do this one as well and not make the tech/fuel stop in Senegal.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:09 pm

Well, if DL were to actually get 77Ls, first route would definitely be JFK-BOM, to overcome weight restrictions the -ER will encounter. If they get more than 2, the next route would be ATL-JNB, though in that case I'd say local traffic demand out of DKR will also play a large part in the decision.
Aside from those two routes, and perhaps, just perhaps, an ATL-India flight, there really isn't too much realistic demand for the 77Ls capabilities. And while I would sure love to see routes like ATL-SYD/DXB/HKG/SIN, I doubt that those would ever happen before DL could get their hands on some 787s for those routes.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:54 pm

DL hasn't considered ordering 777-200LR.. they are in bankruptcy and can't afford buyinig new airplane whats the point of posting?.. where's the net profit?  Smile
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:14 pm

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 15):
DL hasn't considered ordering 777-200LR.. they are in bankruptcy and can't afford buyinig new airplane whats the point of posting?.. where's the net profit?

DL was looking at the -200LR before 9/11 and subsequently before bankruptcy.

Will you get over your exciting little fettish or dream that DL is going to die.

AC went into bankruptcy, did you bitch about everything they did during their restructuring?
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:45 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
I don't think it's that simple. What kind of payload can the 772LR take when it's going 9420 nm? Styrofoam?

The LR's range without the aux tanks is still 8,800 nm at - I believe - MTOW. That should allow for a respectful cargo load. Well within range for this awesome bird.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 16):
Will you get over your exciting little fettish or dream that DL is going to die.

AC went into bankruptcy, did you bitch about everything they did during their restructuring?

Eh, don't bother to argue, trolls are just not worth the energy and time  Wink .
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:35 pm

I just can't for the life of me understand why Delta fans are talking about expansion and new aircraft when DL hasn't even emerged from bankruptcy?

Acting like giddy liitle school girls seeing who's going to get asked to the prom.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:50 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
1.) the 777-200LR is GE 90 powered, DL's 777s are RR powered.

Delta operates 767-300ERs with both GE and Pratt engines, so that may not be much of an issue.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:22 pm

Quoting Airzim (Reply 19):
I just can't for the life of me understand why Delta fans are talking about expansion and new aircraft when DL hasn't even emerged from bankruptcy?

Because some of us are having a jolly good time proving you and your Canadian friend(s) wrong about DL’s ability to restructure.

Bankruptcy means a company cannot pay its current bills based on liquidity, a condition that existed last fall. Since then, DL has dramatically turned the company’s finances around and is very much on track to emerge from BK as one of the leanest and most profitable legacy airlines in the US. Every new financial report from DL confirms their financial progress.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:35 pm

Quoting: Airzim:

Quote:
just can't for the life of me understand why Delta fans are talking about expansion and new aircraft when DL hasn't even emerged from bankruptcy?

Acting like giddy liitle school girls seeing who's going to get asked to the prom.

Because it is inevitable that they have to order new a/c, e.g. 787 for 767 replacements. The 777's are in the plans as well as the operations for International will grow to be appx. 40-45% of operations. As far BK, they are showing imporvement in revenue & profitability and will emerge stronger for sure in just a couple of years. Also, anyone remember NWA ordering 777's & 787's - and they are in BK?

As far as possible routes:
JFK-BOM (a given)
ATL-AKL & SYD ( I believe if they go down under it would probably include a stop in AKL just for assurance and also as an extra destination for the SkyTeam profile since Australia/NZ is where SkyTeam is weakest)
ATL-PVG (China has been on their hit list for quite some time)
ATL-PEK (They lost this last time to CO/AA but Shanghai would be good alternative and close to the Free Trade Zone/growth)

Just my .02
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 22):
Also, anyone remember NWA ordering 777's & 787's - and they are in BK?

NWA doesn't have any 777s on order
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:43 pm

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 21):
Because some of us are having a jolly good time proving you and your Canadian friend(s) wrong about Dlls ability to restructure.

Bankruptcy means a company cannot pay its current bills based on liquidity, a condition that existed last fall. Since then, DL has dramatically turned the company’s finances around and is very much on track to emerge from BK as one of the leanest and most profitable legacy airlines in the US. Every new financial report from DL confirms their financial progress.

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

If they we're such a great company at 'turnarounds' why did they have to resort to BK? Why didn't they present this "brilliant" strategy to their lenders and employees before breaking their contracts?
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:27 am

Delta still has 5 777-200/ER that they can convert to -200/LR.

Most likely routes in my opinion are:

ATL-JNB (nonstop)
ATL-HKG
and less likely
ATL-SYD

If/when DL gets rights to China, they will probably use their -200/ER there.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 22):
ATL-PVG (China has been on their hit list for quite some time)
ATL-PEK (They lost this last time to CO/AA but Shanghai would be good alternative and close to the Free Trade Zone/growth)

The Shanghai route from ATL just might be the fortune cookie that works this time with USDOT! JFK-PEK might also be another fortune cookie. As far as additional China routes, I just think the only way in there will be a merger with NW.  twocents 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:46 am

I would like to see DL exploiting the range of the B 772LR and tap NICHE MARKETS out of its JFK or ATL hub which warrant nonstop flights to USA and those that can see good yields and load factors year round.

Routes that I have in mind are JFK-NBO / ATL-BEY / ATL-HKG / JFK-LHE / ATL-PEK/PVG.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:58 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 25):
Delta still has 5 777-200/ER that they can convert to -200/LR.

I would say 2 perhaps even three will be converted to the LR

Quoting The777Man (Reply 25):
If/when DL gets rights to China, they will probably use their -200/ER there.

Those should do that job fine.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 27):
ATL-BEY

If DL serves BEY, it would be via JFK.

It could also easily be done on a 777-200ER. It doesn't need a 777-200LR.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:05 am

has DL confirmed that they ordered LR frames?
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:09 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
I don't think it's that simple. What kind of payload can the 772LR take when it's going 9420 nm? Styrofoam? Let's not forget, QF originally turned down buying 772LRs for SYD-DFW. I wonder why...

My thoughts exactly. MAX range means very little in the grand scheme of things. What counts is the range when fully-loaded.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:18 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 30):
has DL confirmed that they ordered LR frames?

They likely will next month according to the conversation with Jerry Grinstien online with DL employees (only available via intranet rather than internet). I have a gal-pal who is an FA with them (based here in SLC) and several pilots have told her DL WILL be going for 2-3 777-200LRs to add to their 8 772ERs currently in the fleet. DL currently has five on order that they will take delivery of in 2007 or 2008.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:30 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 32):
DL currently has five on order that they will take delivery of in 2007 or 2008.

so it would make sense if those orders would be converted into LRs.

Are the B772ER's and B773ER/2LRs assembled on the same line at Everett?
If DL converts it's order, it would Boeing be able to deliver still on time? After AC and AF, are there any LR's on order?

soo many questions... Silly

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 12):
No point in wasting 777LR on routes like TLV, PEK, etc. where the range isn't necessarily needed compared with the 777ER.

Well, not really, you can fill 772LR with more cargo on that run, which means higher revenue potential compared to 772ER

Quoting D L X (Reply 10):
I don't think it's that simple. What kind of payload can the 772LR take when it's going 9420 nm? Styrofoam? Let's not forget, QF originally turned down buying 772LRs for SYD-DFW. I wonder why...

No, not styrofoam. More like 301 pax and their lugages.

Boeing has said before, for SIN-LAX run with a distance of 7620 NM, 772LR can carry 301 pax + lugages and about 11 tons of cargo. So, I am pretty sure 772LR can do SYD-DFW and SYD-ATL easily with extra cargo.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 22):
ATL-AKL & SYD ( I believe if they go down under it would probably include a stop in AKL just for assurance and also as an extra destination for the SkyTeam profile since Australia/NZ is where SkyTeam is weakest)

If Delta wants to go to Australia or New Zealand, it will be because Delta wants to go to Australia or New Zealand... not because of Skyteam. Think about it: who outside of the Eastern United States and Eastern Canada will go to Australia via Atlanta? No one in Europe is going that way, Skyteam or not. It's literally ALL about what Delta wants to do for itself, because only its customer base will benefit from an ATL-SYD flight.

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 34):
Boeing has said before, for SIN-LAX run with a distance of 7620 NM, 772LR can carry 301 pax + lugages and about 11 tons of cargo. So, I am pretty sure 772LR can do SYD-DFW and SYD-ATL easily with extra cargo.

ATL-SYD is 400 NM longer than SIN-LAX, and with less favorable winds. Boeing can say in their press releases and media materials "9200 NM" all they want. The fact that Qantas said "not good enough" is extremely enlightening - to the point where it calls into question Boeing's boasts about range and utility.
 
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 35):
ATL-SYD is 400 NM longer than SIN-LAX, and with less favorable winds. Boeing can say in their press releases and media materials "9200 NM" all they want. The fact that Qantas said "not good enough" is extremely enlightening - to the point where it calls into question Boeing's boasts about range and utility.

I have never heard anything on 772LR on SYD-DFW run from QF. QF said 772LR is not good enough for SYD-LHR, not SYD-DFW. They are now considering 748I for SYD-DFW run with typical payload range 8270 NM. Can you enlighten us on this QF "not good enough" enlightenment?

No! Boeing does not just say in their press releases that 772LR has a range of 9400 NM for typical 301 passengers and luggage payload. You can check the payload-range chart on Boeing's website. The performance numbers are hard fact, from flight testing. Granted it is a still air range, but extra 1400 NM should be more than plenty to take care of wind.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:22 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 36):
have never heard anything on 772LR on SYD-DFW run from QF

You're right, I think I am mistaken. LHR was the problem with the 772LR.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
My god, talk about beating Qantas to the punch.

But, I don't think even the long-legged 772LR can make that one. (I could be wrong.)

777-200LR - Max range 16,417km (8865nm)

ATL - SYD = 14933 kilometres (9333 miles) (+ - 0)

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 5):
JFK and ATL- Ganton, china

It's Canton, China or Guangzhou.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:45 am

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 36):
I have never heard anything on 772LR on SYD-DFW run from QF. QF said 772LR is not good enough for SYD-LHR, not SYD-DFW. They are now considering 748I for SYD-DFW run with typical payload range 8270 NM. Can you enlighten us on this QF "not good enough" enlightenment?

I think an ATL-SYD route for DL is far down the priority list at the very least. But the ATL-JNB and possible ATL-CPT in South Africa as well as ATL/JFK-BOM will clearly need one also.
The bottom line is that a few 772LRs are needed now, and future routes such as ATL-SYD or ATL-AKL can wait for a more range favorable 787 when it comes in 4-5 years for DL.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:54 am

Well, as you all know, for routes longer than 5,000nm, the 777-200LR is more cost efficient than the 777-200ER.

DL has about 7 pending 777 deliveries? It might just be that DL finally wants those 777s delivered, but since they plan on using them on long routes (ATL-NRT, ATL-TLV, ect.), they might as well get the more efficient -200LR instead of the -200ER. It doesn't mean they will launch new ULH routes.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:10 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 39):
The bottom line is that a few 772LRs are needed now,

Economically they pay off on sectors over about 5200nm.
 
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:42 am

Hmm... DL is ordering 777's

Must be for ATL-MCO, ATL-TPA, ATL-JAX, ATL-FLL.... sorry, I couldn't resist.  spin 
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:02 am

Quoting LV (Reply 42):
Although, I am curious to see if they end up upgrading ATL-APF to Mad Dogs this coming Tourist Season.

Enjoy them since they are the next likely contraction target in Delta's fleet simplification plan.
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:02 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 15):
DL hasn't considered ordering 777-200LR.. they are in bankruptcy and can't afford buyinig new airplane whats the point of posting?.. where's the net profit?

If Air Canada baught A340-500 and Embraers when were in bankruptcy, Im sure Delta can do too if they present a good plan.


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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:31 am

ATL-SAV--215 NM
ATL-CLT--227 NM
ATL-JAX--270 NM

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:15 am

Quoting Silver764 (Reply 2):
Hopefully SYD, the sooner the better.

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 15):
where's the net profit?

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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:35 pm

bring back BKK service

ATL-BKK


it would hurt TG probably if DL can sell cheap seats on it and use sKyTeam
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RE: Potential Routes Of Delta 777-200LR

Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:42 pm

Well just about anywhere in the world is pretty viable from ATL with the exception of PER. The 777LR's range of 9,420 nm makes ATL an almost perfect base.

But why not:
* ATL-SYD 8068 nm
* ATL-SIN 8657 nm
* ATL-JNB 7334 nm
* ATL-BOM 7394 nm



The shaded circle area over the Indian Ocean and Western Australia is the only part of the globe the 777LR cannot reach from ATL. BTW, this does take into account a 207 minute ETOPS ruling (other shaded areas) and this will affect the route to SYD only, but it is still viable.

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