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Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:02 pm

A very theoretical question... considering the delay of the A380's and the serious implications this will have on their expansion plans, could we perhaps see a dry/damp lease of the largest Boeing model to cover the gap?

EK are apparently desperate for a larger pax model and were counting on the A380 to help ease some of the constraints. And the 773ER's are not coming fast enough, though, these Boeings are very much on time and as per the delivery schedule. Big grin

They pulled off a similar “stunt” before with the acquisition of A343's from Boeing Capital to help growth...

What are your thoughts?
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:10 pm

I was in DXB on June, 30th and, even if it was a little far, I'm sure I've seen a pax 747 parked with EK colours.
So, doesn't EK halready has 744?
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:12 pm

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 1):
I was in DXB on June, 30th and, even if it was a little far, I'm sure I've seen a pax 747 parked with EK colours.
So, doesn't EK halready has 744?

EK Cargo... 744 Freighters...
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:27 pm

There are currently no 747-400s for lease available...
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:42 pm

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 3):
There are currently no 747-400s for lease available...

Any links regarding to that post? I suppose there are a lot of Jumbos standing in the deserts...
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:52 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
Any links regarding to that post?

Well, you could try a search under 'aircraft available' at:

http://www.speednews.com

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
I suppose there are a lot of Jumbos standing in the deserts...

Jumbos yes, but apparently only 747-100 or 747-200.
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:08 pm

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 5):
Well, you could try a search under 'aircraft available' at:

http://www.speednews.com

THX for that site! It's very interesting...
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:43 pm

why has EK never ordered 747's?
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:46 pm

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 7):

´Cuz EK ordered 45 A380 and some 773ER. No need for 747s.....yet.

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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:33 pm

According to that site there are 3 744 available, N106UA, N185UA and N192UA, United Airlines 744s, all of them have P&W engines
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:16 am

well even before ordering the 773's and A380's, why didnt they buy 747's?
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:49 pm

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 10):
well even before ordering the 773's and A380's, why didnt they buy 747's?

Well, they always have a theory of staying with the most modern aircraft possible. At the time the 747-400 was "modern," the largest aircraft EK had was the 777-200ER, and they didn't have a crazy eye for expansion.

When they did get their expansion craze, the A380 was already in development.
 
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RE: Short-term 747-400 Pax Lease For EK?

Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:09 pm

I doubt it would be economical for EK to bring a new aircraft type into its fleet for a stop-gap duration of time. The three ex-UA aircraft available for sale have been parked since post 9/11, and are in need of SIGNIFICANT maintenance work to be brought back into servicable condition. Also, as mentioned above these aircraft are Pratt powered while EK's current 744F fleet is GE powered.

The only feasible way to bring in B744 capacity would be an ACMI contract (similar to what Iberia did with their recently returned 744's with Air Atlanta Icelandic), but I am not sure whether Emirates would be interested in this type of option.