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A Chance To Fly On A Boeing 707...

Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:20 pm

Since I have been living in Zambia for a rather long time, I have been doing some traveling to different parts of Africa. I have also been looking into other places to go and different ways to get there. Recently I discovered that one of Africa's airlines still flies the 707, so I am going to look into going on a trip somewhere.

The airline is called InterAir and is based out of JNB. They fly 737-200, 727-200 (I think it is a 200) and the 707, but I don't know which type.

Questions...
- Does anyone know of InterAir's saftey record? I can't find anything bad, which makes me very happy!
- Anyone else flown on InterAir or more specifically their 707?
- What would you pay to fly on one?

If you have any other information that you feel would be helpful, please let me know. Thanks!

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:30 am

Really 707 I was under the impression only saha air in Iran still ran 707's
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:40 am

I don't think those Inter Air 707s are still flying. I'm going to Iran in August to catch a couple of domestic flights on Saha 707s, and while I'm very much looking forward to visiting Iran, I think at this point in world events I'd favour South Africa if it was an option.

Btw the Iran trip is organised by www.airevents.de (or .com?) for more info.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:52 am

There is still one flying passengers in the Argentine Air Force, though it is not easy to board. I had the good fortune to fly on it last April, courtesy of an Air Force contact, though fundamentally what the 707 is doing is replacing the F28 with as little as 48 hours notice on the Patagonian routes operated by LADE, so there is really little guarantee. That said, on the return sectors the plane was almost full, and I noted a lot of English tourists (young and old) among the passengers, as well as a French group on the outbound. Interesting, I thought...

Saludos,

ZXV

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:38 am

I couldn't pass up a thread named after my name sake! How I miss the 707. THe grandeaur, sound, elegance...
 
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:46 am

I'll be in one Thursday Big grin (well an E-3 that is)  Smile

I can't find any "current" info on the interair jets, anyone have any? I'd love to hear more.

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:54 am

khen,

If you should happen to land a chance on flying the grandpa of the Boeings...you're in for a treat and will love it!! It's one of my two all time favorite Boeings (the other-727/200Adv.) I have been blessed to have ridden many flights/miles in a combo of the 707/100/200/300 (but not the 400 with the Conway engines   ) in S. America mainly on AV in the 60's and 70's. Fantastic riding plane with great power from the JT4 Pratts with lots of flex in the wings which gives it it's trademark "soft ride" in turbulence.

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:44 pm

I would love to fly on the 707. I was also under the impression that the only civilian operated 707s were used by Saha. Do they keep these aircraft around expressly because they are the only ones still flying, or do they just lack the resources to acquire new aircraft? I would think either way, with the inefficiency of the 707 it would be unrealistic to keep them around, just for nostalgic value. If they don't have the means to purchase new aircraft it seems with so many used aircraft available, something could be purchased on the cheap that could mitigate the purchase cost in efficiency.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:13 pm

AA777223...Don't forget, fuel is about 1/10th of what we pay here in the "real" world...

Good news from Argentina is the 707 is getting a major check, so we could see this baby flying many years to come!
 
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:08 pm

Sounds like a logical explanation to me, even though you are still left flying around in and maintaining the only examples of an individual aircraft type in civilian service.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:17 pm

AA777223--

It sucks that we are US citizens and we are not allowed to go to Iran to fly on this bird. Money is not the issue, heck I am not really concerned about safety all that much. But I dont think US citizens are allowed into Iran.
 
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:24 pm

Well, I hope that I do get to go for a ride on one, hearing all the excitement coming from all of you!

Since it is a holiday here today and tomorrow, I will be going in on Wednesday to find out more. As for they are still flying the 707 or not, all their flyers show it in their current colors and show it flying the "long haul" flights. We (I) will know for sure soon!

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:46 pm

So cool if true!

The timetable on the website states that aircraft used are "Boeing 707, 727, 737", I have emailed them to ask if they are still using the 707 on passenger services, will let you know if I hear...

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8):
Good news from Argentina is the 707 is getting a major check, so we could see this baby flying many years to come!

I have pictures of this bird in the hangar in El Palomar AFB, taken six months ago to the day, which might interest you:

http://www.saorbats.com.ar/saorbats_frameset.htm

>Click on Novedades on the left hand column;
>Scroll down to 26 de marzo de 2006;
>And it's the 2nd link, the one that starts Fotos de la I Brigada Aérea...

There is in fact much else to see at the base, as I think the photos show. In that entire gallery, you can only spot three airworthy aircraft: the white L-100-30 Hercules, the KC-130H Hercules (minus IFR pods) taxiing past me, and the presidential F28-4000 (recently refurbished). Does the sight of all those semi-derelict C-130s roasting in the sun remind anybody else of Tan Son Nhut AB after the fall of Saigon, or is it just me?

Enjoy!

Saludos,

ZXV

P.S. It may interest you to know that T-95 (the 707 in the hangar) is 39 years old! (You just have to love the efficiency of the Argentine Air Force  Silly)

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Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:00 pm

I have had a reply from Interair in South Africa:

Hi Noel,
The B707 is in for major maintenance and will not be flying again this year
Regards
(Name deleted for privacy)

At least it's not a blatant "no never again"!  Smile

Cheers
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RE: A Chance To Fly On A Boeing 707...

Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting Noelg (Reply 14):
Hi Noel,
The B707 is in for major maintenance and will not be flying again this year
Regards
(Name deleted for privacy)

Thanks for sharing! I guess I will have to postpone my trip until next year.  Sad

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:38 am

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 10):
It sucks that we are US citizens and we are not allowed to go to Iran to fly on this bird. Money is not the issue, heck I am not really concerned about safety all that much. But I dont think US citizens are allowed into Iran.

I am a UK citizen, living and working in Abu Dhabi, UAE. I am hoping to take a trip to Iran to fly the B707 late next month, but it is dependent upon getting a visa. I will be applying through the Iran embassy in Abu Dhabi, so hopefully they will see from my passport that I am well travelled in the Arab world and grant me a visa. I will be gutted if not!

My next worry is the reception I will get at US Immigration several days later when they see visas / stamps for Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria etc in my passport. I know how small minded they can be from previous visits when I did not have any Arabic stamps in my passport, so I am bracing myself for this visit!
 
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:06 am

Quoting Amazonphil (Reply 6):
I have been blessed to have ridden many flights/miles in a combo of the 707/100/200/300 (but not the 400 with the Conway engines  

I am the other way round, the only 707 I ever flew on was the 400 model with British Airtours when ,during the 70s they flew on charters around Europe. My first ever jet flight was supposed to be on a British Airways Trident 3 from LHR to MLA, it was replaced with a 707! Happy memories
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:14 am

AI had the 707-200 and 300 series.....I had many happy flights on those birds and really loved them.....

BTW, what was the difference between the 300 and the 400 series....? Were there any more variants beyond that....? And which year was the 707 production discontinued?  wave 
 
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:17 am

400 was RR Conway.
 
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:41 am

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 10):
But I dont think US citizens are allowed into Iran.

Unless things have changed very recently, we are allowed travel to Iran as far as the US government is concerned and the Iranians will grant a tourist visa to Americans if you prove you are coming on an organized tour. That's the way it's been for many, many years.
 
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:12 am

I hope you are able to get on a 707 before they are gone completely. My favourite seat was the row just ahead of the leading edge of the wing. I could observe all the action of the engines and most of the wing and---oh----the wonderful sound of those Pratts in full cry at take-off.
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RE: A Chance To Fly On A Boeing 707...

Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:33 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 18):
BTW, what was the difference between the 300 and the 400 series....? Were there any more variants beyond that....? And which year was the 707 production discontinued?

As was stated, the 400 seris had the RR conway engines and I believe the last 707 built was in 1984 but wasn't for any airline...went to some govenment in the middle east somewhere.

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:39 pm

Quoting Trident3 (Reply 17):
Quoting Amazonphil (Reply 6):
I have been blessed to have ridden many flights/miles in a combo of the 707/100/200/300 (but not the 400 with the Conway engines

I am the other way round, the only 707 I ever flew on was the 400 model with British Airtours when ,during the 70s they flew on charters around Europe. My first ever jet flight was supposed to be on a British Airways Trident 3 from LHR to MLA, it was replaced with a 707! Happy memories

I have hundreds of photos of the 70's of the 707's in BOG and CCS with AV and Viasa of Venesuela back then. Those were the 707 glory days also with the 727-100/200's and the 737-200's coming online shorty after(at least in S. America) They were however, introduced by Boeing in the late 60's.)

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:50 pm

LVZXV...Thank you for sharing this....Confirming a 707 getting a 'D' check is better than the U.S. winning the World Cup!!!  Smile
 
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Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:36 pm

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
I'm going to Iran in August to catch a couple of domestic flights on Saha 707s,

I would like to ask a favor and I think I'm speaking for other a.netters as well. Take a video camera along and record the take offs, in-flight transport, and landings, then submit it to www.flightlevel350.com. Also (and I know I'm being pushy, here), if there's a meal, take a photo of it and send it to www.airlinemeals.net. You will make many of us very happy if you do.  Smile

Good Day  Smile

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Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:10 am

Every second will be well documented, I promise. It's two sectors on 707s and a couple of other cool things (funny how the 727 is an exotic bird as well these days).
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Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:12 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 26):
Every second will be well documented, I promise.

Your efforts will be well appreciated.  Smile

Good Day  Smile

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Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:35 am

I flew on one a month ago. It was from Omega Air (N707AR). They do contract tanking for the USN. The passenger area is still configured for passengers and it still looks like a normal airliner, both inside and out. I took a video of the takeoff which you can see here.

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_B..._Untitled_Aviation_Video-6399.html