flyguy1
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EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:13 am

Flights apparently start on 10-26:
Dep AUH: 1425
Arr JFK: 2125 EY 503

Dep JFK: 2310
Arr AUH: 2025+1 EY 504
Flights to be operated by the A340-500
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:19 am

Wow how upsetting, I'll be at JU getting my, PPL. Sad I can't see her coming in.
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:21 am

thanks for the update.. checkmark ...sounds like it is going to basically parallel EK flights 202/203...

so far it seem as if USA-Emirates flights are doing well....

I remember when EK started its first JFK-DXB-JFK flight, I flew on it after it started a few weeks earlier..the flights were 1/2 empty.. spin 
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stylo777
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:22 am

as additional info: it's a daily flight (not like other EY destinations)
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:00 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 2):
sounds like it is going to basically parallel EK flights 202/203...

Up until the 28th of October, it will parallel EK 201/202
After the 28th of October, it will parallel EK 201/202 and 205/206 (Via Hamburg)

203/204 is the 0200 departure from DXB.

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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:15 am

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 4):
Up until the 28th of October, it will parallel EK 201/202
After the 28th of October, it will parallel EK 201/202 and 205/206 (Via Hamburg)

oh got it.. think I messed up on the scheduling (I think)..thanks... Smile
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:00 pm

Weren't Etihad originaly planning to serve EWR?
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:34 pm

a hopeless schedule if u ask me as the flight arrives into JFK at 2125 thus not allowing any onward U.S. domestic connections with their interline partners.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
Weren't Etihad originaly planning to serve EWR?

yes youre correct as on their original business application to the US DOT, EWR and not JFK was mentioned...god knows why they changed their minds...at least with EWR they would have served a niche market and faced no competition from EK.
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 7):
a hopeless schedule if u ask me as the flight arrives into JFK at 2125 thus not allowing any onward U.S. domestic connections with their interline partners.

JFK is supportive by O/D alone. How many times must it be said on this forum that New York City is the largest O/D market in the country? Emirates flys to JFK for the same reason. Emirates does not need to feed off of Delta, American, or United to fill its upcoming 3 daily flights.

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 7):
at least with EWR they would have served a niche market and faced no competition from EK.

Newark is not needd, as the route is supportive of the New York City O/D
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:23 pm

Any info on when/if their YYZ flight will become non-stop?

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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:24 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 8):
Emirates does not need to feed off of Delta, American, or United to fill its upcoming 3 daily flights.

my friend, if you ever check the passenger distribution of EKs currently flown 2 daily JFK-DXB-JFK flights then you will see for yourself that around 38% of the pax end their journey beyond NYC and connect onwards with AA and DL via JFK.

There is a good reason as to why EKs flights into JFK arrive at 7am and 2pm respectively as they are perfectly timed to connect with AA and DLs flights from JFK to the other big U.S. cities on the East/West/Midwest regions.

EK carries a lot of pax who originate from Canada on their JFK flights. These pax fly AA and DL from YYZ & YUL to JFK.

[Edited 2006-07-04 15:27:37]
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:33 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 10):
There is a good reason as to why EKs flights into JFK arrive at 7am and 2pm respectively as they are perfectly timed to connect with AA and DLs flights from JFK to the other big U.S. cities on the East/West/Midwest regions

They arrive at 7am, and 2pm due to flow restrictions at JFK...

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 10):
EK carries a lot of pax who originate from Canada on their JFK flights. These pax fly AA and DL from YYZ & YUL to JFK.

EK is not full of Canadians, please support proof of this. The New York City is full of the de-facto highest disphora of persons of Arabic, and Indian persons in the United States. In addition the JFK flights are full with JFK originating pax making onward connections to Africa, Asia, and Australia.
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 11):
EK is not full of Canadians, please support proof of this.

you are taking this way off context...i never said that theyre full of Canadians, read what I wrote carefully...I said that they carry a lot of Canada originating pax on every flight from JFK especially in the low season where the average is 30-35 per flight.
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:29 am

Shame it arrives and departs during night time. I guess we can count on Mike getting some great photos of her at Terminal 4 though (assuming their using T4)!
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 13):
I guess we can count on Mike getting some great photos of her at Terminal 4 though (assuming their using T4)!

At that time of night, they can use any terminal at JFK.
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:32 am

Here is the summary for the connections via their AUH hub both ways :

LHE-Lahore : 6 times a week

EY 242 Dep LHE 0730 Arr AUH 0935
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 4 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 241 Dep AUH 0210+2 Arr LHE 0615+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!

KHI-Karachi : Daily

EY 222 Dep KHI 0640 Arr AUH 0755
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 6 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 221 Dep AUH 0210+2 Arr KHI 0525+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!

BOM-Mumbai : 5 times a week

EY 207 Dep BOM 0845 Arr AUH 1015
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 4 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 208 Dep AUH 0300+2 Arr BOM 0730+2
Transit time in AUH is 6 hours!

DAC-Dhaka : 5 times a week

EY 252 Dep DAC 0915 Arr AUH 1230
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 1 hr 45 minutes!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 251 Dep AUH 0130+2 Arr DAC 0800+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!

CMB-Colombo : Daily

EY 202 Dep CMB 0910 Arr AUH 1200
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 2 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 201 Dep AUH 0130+2 Arr CMB 0740+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!
 
jacobin777
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 15):

LHE-Lahore : 6 times a week

EY 242 Dep LHE 0730 Arr AUH 0935
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 4 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 241 Dep AUH 0210+2 Arr LHE 0615+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!

KHI-Karachi : Daily

EY 222 Dep KHI 0640 Arr AUH 0755
EY 503 Dep AUH 1415 Arr JFK 2025
Transit time in AUH is 6 hours!

EY 504 Dep JFK 2210 Arr AUH 2025+1
EY 221 Dep AUH 0210+2 Arr KHI 0525+2
Transit time in AUH is 5 hours!

all because PK can't figure out what its doing..watch EY take ISB over PK also....
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 12):
you are taking this way off context...i never said that theyre full of Canadians, read what I wrote carefully...I said that they carry a lot of Canada originating pax on every flight from JFK especially in the low season where the average is 30-35 per flight.

Behramjee,

Apologies one to many Bellinis at the Peninsula Bar.. lol.. I understand what you are saying, one thing I would like to know since you are in Canada. There is immense wealth in and around Toronto and Vancouver, why has EK not entered the market. Or are Air Canadas protectors still out in full force?
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 17):
why has EK not entered the market. Or are Air Canadas protectors still out in full force?

1. heavy anti EK lobbying by AC in Ottawa

2. bilateral doesnt allow EK/EY combined to fly more than 6 weekly flights to Canada.

3. EK were given the authority to fly 6 weekly YYZ flights in 2003 but said no as they wanted daily or nothing. Needless to say, AC and Ottawa Govt told them to take a hike!
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:02 am

What about other potential desitinations like IAD, Houston or Chicago? I think EY would have been able to capture a market niche waiting for non stop flights out to the Middle east.

This eliminates flying out to JFK to catch a connection to DXB before connecting to any destinations in the asian subcontinent.
 
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RE: EY To JFK Now In The Schedules

Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting BURJDXB (Reply 19):

This eliminates flying out to JFK to catch a connection to DXB before connecting to any destinations in the asian subcontinent.

but EY is developing an extensive route structure from AUH also...so one might not need to travel through DXB..
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