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Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:04 am

Hi all. Does anyone on here know about the scuzzy looking 737-200 parked over in the corner of Delta's hangar ramp at ATL? I've seen it a lot the past few weeks driving by on Loop Rd. It has no engines and looks as if some parts have been scavenged, but it's still largely intact. I haven't noticed an a/c reg. number on the fuse., so who's is it? Can anyone reference a photo i.d. on a-net? Just curious.

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:21 am

Is this the one.

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:44 am

YES! Thank you Bennett123. That is indeed the one. I suspect they moved it there due to the ongoing construction on the south side of the field. I will include the link below.


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The remarks state the a/c was used for training. I wonder if it's on it's way to the boneyard after being shoved into the corner by DL's hangar.
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:47 am

I think that I read that it was being used by the Fire Dept at one stage.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:59 am

It is still used for training, and was moved to its' current location next to the old DL hangar after this years' air disaster drill.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:13 am

Its an old Airtran bird that suffered some kind of structural damage and was unflyable, if that helps.



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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:24 am

Airtran bird that lost hydraulics after take off back in 98. Upon return to ATL it ran of the runway as its brakes failed.

NTSB report can be found at:
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:37 am

Yep, it was still in the old AirTran colors as well... and if you get close enough, you can see them through the white....

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:58 am

Wasn't that hangar used by Southern/Republic?
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:59 am

When reading page 2 of the NTSB report, in the "factual report" section, it lists the engine type as a turbo fan. Am I incorrect in thinking that the engines on the 732 were the same engines on the DC-9 series aircraft, and are therefore turbojets? I always thought aircraft with no bypass is a turbojet. I have always found it odd though that the RR RB211s on the 744 and 757, and the PW on the A330, and the A343 seem to have no bypass around the main core. Anyway, thats a seperate question, but anyway, aren't the 732 engines turbojets, not turbo fans?
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:29 am

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 9):
Am I incorrect in thinking that the engines on the 732 were the same engines on the DC-9 series aircraft, and are therefore turbojets? I

Neither aircraft was ever equipped with pure turbojets. All JT8Ds on commercial aircraft are turbofans, albeit low-bypass.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:45 am

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 9):
Am I incorrect in thinking that the engines on the 732 were the same engines on the DC-9 series aircraft

No sir, you are correct.

Quoting AA777223 (Reply 9):
and are therefore turbojets?

No sir. The original engine on the DC-9/MD-80 and the 731/732 as well as the 727 is one version or another of the P&W JT8D, which is in fact a turbo fan. It is a LOW bypass turbo fan to be sure, but it does have a bypass duct. I've changed fan assemblies on these engines several times as well as crawled up more than one tail pipe, and I can assure you they are turbo fans.

The other engines you mention are all HIGH bypass turbo fans, but they are fooling you by wearing a cowling that hides their true construction quite nicely.

It's the case of the book and the cover, you can't tell an engine's basic type/construction simply by it's cowling. Hopefully this helps.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:54 am

Thanks for the info everyone!

As I looked over the pic I did notice the original AirTran colors on the nose. Inerestingly enough, most planes that are involved in an incident just have the titles painted over, not the whole plane:


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But I guess the practice of keeping a write-off a/c for training purposes is rather common:


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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting Gt1 (Reply 11):
The other engines you mention are all HIGH bypass turbo fans, but they are fooling you by wearing a cowling that hides their true construction quite nicely.

It's the case of the book and the cover, you can't tell an engine's basic type/construction simply by it's cowling. Hopefully this helps.

Thanks for the help, I knew they were high bypass turbofans, as any commercial jetliner aircraft designed in the last 20 years or so seems to pretty much be, I just have always been fascinated by those specific angines, as it seems to me their cowling design would limit their efficiency.

Thanks again for the helpful info!
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:09 am

Quoting FL1TPA (Reply 12):
As I looked over the pic I did notice the original AirTran colors on the nose. Inerestingly enough, most planes that are involved in an incident just have the titles painted over, not the whole plane:

The leasing company probably required the aircraft to be painted over. The old Irish registration can barely be seen, but the a/c still has them on the wings.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:48 am

Reminds me of the old Martin 4-0-4 sitting in GPT.. They use it for evacuation practice.. Wasps have made it a permanent home. The old FL 732 has made a nice home for birds, as I've seen quite a few coming from the APU Inlet..
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:28 pm

An idea for another vapid reality show: Extreme Airplane Makeover!
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For my fellow crewmembers who were inside this old bird, what was your experience like?
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:33 pm

Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 16):
An idea for another vapid reality show: Extreme Airplane Makeover!

Too late... your idea has been beaten....

http://www.achorizons.ca/en/issues/2006/april/extreme.htm
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:23 pm

How much is that jet worth?
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:44 pm

The "D" suffix on all the old PWs always meant turbofan. For example when the original 707s flew they had JT3C and the Braniff -220s with JT4A turbojets and later models had the JT3D turbofan albeit low bypass engines.

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:22 am

I am the photographer who took that photo of this aircraft. I fly Kitty Hawk into ATL all the time, and finally took a photo of that bird last year. From what I'm told, after the runway overrun, it was deemed uneconomical to repair, and has been sitting in the grass next to South Cargo for years now. The ATL fire and police departments did use it for training for a short time.

The old AirTran colors are still clearly visible on the nose - as is the extensive damage from when the aircraft departed the runway at high speed and the nosegear collapsed. Two people were seriously injured in the accident.

Why an AirTran aircraft had an Irish registration is beyond me! Does anyone have any info on that?

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:56 am

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 20):
Why an AirTran aircraft had an Irish registration is beyond me! Does anyone have any info on that?

Same reg as when Air Tara operated it.
Just guessing - probably leased aircraft and/or not FAA certified.

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 21):
Same reg as when Air Tara operated it.
Just guessing - probably leased aircraft and/or not FAA certified.

You can still see the reg'n EI-CJW, under the "white wash" paint job. They need to get rid of this thing. It really has been an eyesore for a long time!
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:51 am

The hangar where the aircraft is currently parked was orginally operated and used by Eastern Airlines, until there demise in 1991. The Hangar set vacant for quite sometime, and later became a tool for manipulation by the city of Atlanta....the city wanted the Delta Air Lines employee parking lot, and Delta wanted the Hangar...niether would move on it's demands...then Delta realizing at the time that additional hangar space was needed, gave in to the city, released the employee parking lot to Atlanta for much needed passenger parking and in turn negotiated a "decent" contract with Delta for lease of the former Eastern Hangar. Unitl just about 2 months ago when as part of Delta's retstructuring the Hangar lease was terminated, and It looks like ASA is using it now, and some of the outdoor parking pads are used for the RON Aircraft of World Airways and Omni Air International..... Hope this answers the earlier question about the hangar and Southern/Republic....that Hangar that used to belong to Southern/Republic/Northwest is still vacant and is located on the South side of the Field.
 
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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting FL1TPA (Thread starter):
parked over in the corner of Delta's hangar ramp

Has the aircraft been moved? When I shot that photo it was parked next to the South Cargo facility.

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RE: Nasty 737-200 By DL Hangar In ATL

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:16 am

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 24):
Has the aircraft been moved? When I shot that photo it was parked next to the South Cargo facility.

It was moved about a month ago.

Quoting Tod (Reply 21):
Just guessing - probably leased aircraft and/or not FAA certified.

It was leased from Dormacken Limited, who is based in Ireland, hence the registration, as some leasing companies don't let airlines reregister the a/c in the country it is being operated in.

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