sbnair3022
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Business Class On A Prop

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:19 am

Just wondering, if you wanted to put a business class on a prop would it be in front or back? I know some european airlines have it in the rear on the ATR, and the Dornier on at least one airline has it up front. Is the noise louder in front or the back of a prop.
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:59 am

When I fly on a prop, my biggest interest is easy on/easy off - therefore, business class is in the rear on an ATR, or any other plane you board from the rear - in the front on a SAAB, or any other plane you board from the front

It's not so much a question of noise as it is exit access - remember, on most of the prop planes, there is a pretty significant delay before you can exit, and with a tight connection, getting off first can make a big difference
 
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting SBNair3022 (Thread starter):
Is the noise louder in front or the back of a prop.

Generally the closer you are to the prop, the louder it will be. However you can never go wrong with sitting atleast 2-3 rows behind the engines.

Quoting SBNair3022 (Thread starter):
the Dornier on at least one airline has it up front.

What airline is this!??!! There isn't any room in the 328!
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:21 am

Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 1):
It's not so much a question of noise as it is exit access - remember, on most of the prop planes, there is a pretty significant delay before you can exit, and with a tight connection, getting off first can make a big difference

Yeah I;d go for that. While comfort is important for many of us, a lot of premium pax pay that premium for the ability to board first/exit first.

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sbnair3022
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:24 am

okay, that makes sense, duh! What about the sound levels though? say it is higher in the front, but thats where the door is (like on most airliners) wouldn't that make it less attractive to fly business?
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:35 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the days of prop/turboprop flying, first class was in the rear of the props, and in the front of jets. I flew a National Airlines Electra in the late 60's first class, and it was in the rear.

Today, with regionals and commuters, I also prefer to sit where the access door is, which means front on the Saab 340 and rear on the ATR's.
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:00 am

On all of the prop liners I have seen, the premium cabin was always in the rear. That goes right back to the DC-6s and DC-7s, the first to be equipped with two different class cabins on one aircraft.

At Trans-Canada Air Lines, and Air Canada, the First Class cabin was always in the rear of the prop aircraft so equipped; L1049, Viscount and Vanguard. (yes, the Viscount 700s of TCA at one time had a two class cabin! 45Y 12F!)

The DC-4M2 North Stars had Y aircraft, and F aircraft, but were never configured with both at the same time, on the same aircraft.
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:28 am

Quoting AzoresLover (Reply 5):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the days of prop/turboprop flying, first class was in the rear of the props,



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 6):
On all of the prop liners I have seen, the premium cabin was always in the rear. That goes right back to the DC-6s and DC-7s, the first to be equipped with two different class cabins on one aircraft.

Don't forget the entry door was also in the rear on the majority of these aircraft - I wonder whether that was the primary concern?

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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:09 am

The permium cabin on British Eagle Brittania's was at the rear and I went on Monarch and told the hostie that I wanted to sit in the rear , she could not understand until we hit a storm!!
 
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:46 am

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 7):
Don't forget the entry door was also in the rear on the majority of these aircraft - I wonder whether that was the primary concern?

It is probably a great regret to you that you were never able to enjoy these great aircraft in person, but let me tell you ... one ride in any of them, and the reason for First Class in the rear is greatly apparent. Noise.

Take the Vanguard for example. First Class was very pleasant, and engine noise was only a faint whisper. However, in the forward Economy cabin, (there were two), one could barely hear their seat mate!
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:00 am

I've only been on one two-class propellor aircraft: it was an ATR-72 operated by CitiFlyer Express, a BA franchise. Business was in the rear of the aircraft. The seats didn't look especially great, but they did receive a nicer meal service. (A full, hot breakfast was served in the main cabin on that short flight from Cork to London/Gatwick).
 
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:44 am

What airlines actually offer Business class on an ATR?
 
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:13 pm

Any Turboprops that offer IFE?
 
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RE: Business Class On A Prop

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:35 pm

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 12):
Any Turboprops that offer IFE?

Indeed there are:

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