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O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:27 am

I have worked for an airline for 6 years and yet when I read through the forums of airliners.net I still have no idea what this 'O&D' stands for. I am assuming it is refering to passengers NOT making connections. PLEASE someone decode this for me!!!

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O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:34 am

"Origin & Destination". A passenger who flies between two markets without making a connection is an O&D passenger.
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O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:36 am

Origin and Destination passengers.

This is the data that is used by airports and airlines alike (as supplied to and tabulated by the USDOT) to calculate existing demand between 2 airports/markets. So if I were to tell you that the O&D between PVD and LAX is 300 - that simply means, on average, there are 150 people per day, each way, traveling between those 2 places regardless of where they stopped, connected, or how they got there as long as it was on commercial air service.

Some people on here will try to tell you that this info isn't all that accurate, but I can assure you, this is the data that the airline planning departments use/start with when exploring route opportunities. O&D doesn't necessary tell you what the potential demand for a market is - just what was actually there for a given quarter. Lots of other things effect O&D (fares, nonstop service, frequency, competition, etc., etc.).
 
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O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:37 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):
A passenger who flies between two markets without making a connection is an O&D passenger.

not to nit-pick, but please see the above post for clarification.
 
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RE: O&D

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 3):
not to nit-pick, but please see the above post for clarification.

Yours is more correct, agreed. I was thinking more in how it's used here such as a certain flight doesn't need feed to survive since most of the passengers are "O&D".
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RE: O&D

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:46 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 2):
Some people on here will try to tell you that this info isn't all that accurate, but I can assure you, this is the data that the airline planning departments use/start with when exploring route opportunities. O&D doesn't necessary tell you what the potential demand for a market is - just what was actually there for a given quarter. Lots of other things effect O&D (fares, nonstop service, frequency, competition, etc., etc.).

Also what can factor into these numbers is the population of a market that a particular airport typically serves. SLC for example gets low marks for only having a greater metro-area of just under 2 million people (Ogden & Provo included), whereas within the greater region PHX is just under 4 million and DEN is just under 3 million.
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RE: O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
Yours is more correct, agreed. I was thinking more in how it's used here such as a certain flight doesn't need feed to survive since most of the passengers are "O&D".

very true, the trick is getting the right amount of O&D and connecting passengers on a given leg -too much reliance on either one is typically risky.
 
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RE: O&D - What Does It Stand For?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:59 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 2):
(as supplied to and tabulated by the USDOT)

That's if you're talking about O&D traffic within, to and from the U.S. There is a world out here beyond your shores.

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