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Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:14 am

Would be glad if somebody could give me an answer to this question that I had for quite a while. Can the AN-2 be used in Canada to transport cargo? (As a bush plane). I know that in the United States they slapped some pretty brutal restrictions on the plane, but what about Canada or maybe some caribbean countries (islands)?
And what if the aircraft was registered in another country like Russia or Ukraine? (So like the Airbuses are operating inside of Russia right now, they are not certified, but operate with a foreign registry)

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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:32 am

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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:03 am

Hi Tu204,

I guess here in Canada the closest comparison would be the DeHavilland Canada DHC-3 Otter. This has been such a workhorse for over 50 years! It is available with floats, and can be converted to a turboprop in place of its piston engine.

In the case of the An-2, with the age of most of the airframes, and depending on if the aircraft could get an airworthiness certificate... you might be able to get some sort of historic designation or "experimental" status. To be able to ply the skies for revenue purposes here, I doubt would happen. It would be cool to see some ex-soviet types over here more often though!


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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:25 am

A bush pilot friend of mine had looked at a AN2 with floats several years ago. He saw his first one at Fun and Sun in Florida.The AN2 would solve the problem of a growing shortage of Beavers and the rising cost of new aircraft. If I remember correctly, a Polish AN2 on floats, with a zero time engine, was about $30,000 USD. He said Canada would never certify it to compete against their own aircraft industry.
 
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:59 am

I'm not so sure there are any AN-2's in Canada operating but here in YZF we do have an SRX AN-12 doing runs to the northern diamond mines. I think this a/c has the slowest climb rate I've ever seen.

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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:41 pm

Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 4):
He said Canada would never certify it to compete against their own aircraft industry.

None of the competitors - Beavers, Otters, Twin Otters -- are still in production. What part of the Canadian aircraft industry would it be competing against? And since there appear to be a couple with Canadian registrations, haven't they already certified it?
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:52 pm

Quoting Arrow (Reply 6):

This was more than several years ago. Are these AN2s registered for commerical operation? Bombardier may want to make a replacement for the Beaver and Otters in the future. The Beavers that I fly in on fishing trips were made in 1950 and 1951.
 
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:55 pm

I might go with an An-3. The turboprop might prove more reliable.

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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:23 pm

The price would have to be right

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The price would have to be right. Bush pilots don't have the money for large capital investments. That is one reason they are still using old Beavers instead of new Caravans.
 
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:23 am

Quoting YZFOO7F (Reply 5):
I'm not so sure there are any AN-2's in Canada operating but here in YZF we do have an SRX AN-12 doing runs to the northern diamond mines.

I believe there is also at least one Mil helicopter flying commercially in Canada - for the Alberta Oil Sands project.
 
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:55 am

Their is an AN-2 based at Oshawa YOO. Not sure if they are flying it for revenue or just private, but I do think they use it for skydiving.
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RE: Can The AN-2 Be Used In Canada?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:36 am

Thank you very much for the replies!
I have been in contact with a An-2 owner in Canada that uses it for skydiving, it has a SP- reg.
Does anyone know what these bush comanies usually charge for a flight hour? Just want to see how profitable it could possibly be.
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