deltadc9
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787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:23 am

I was not able to find anything like this with the search. This is pretty interesting video of the robot tape laying process and the spinning mandrel.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business...vfile?coll=sfla-business-headlines
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:02 am

TOO COOOOOOL. Awesome Video! Thanks for posting this.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:02 am

Cool!!, automated tape layup, now that is one way to reduce cost?

thanks for sharing.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:06 am

That was a great video.Thanks
 
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:15 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Thread starter):
automated tape layup

The thickness of the barrel at any point is controlled and variable. The tape is laid in multiple directions also.

This is the difference between what Airbus is doing with the 380 tail cone and the 787. Every process before this is now stone age technology.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:23 am

I think this is as big technology step as when ship-building moved from wood to steel. This will revolutionize the industry and change the rules of the game. Congratulations to Boeing for taking the lead.
 
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:32 am

Quote:
DeltaDC9: The thickness of the barrel at any point is controlled and variable. The tape is laid in multiple directions also.

This is the difference between what Airbus is doing with the 380 tail cone and the 787. Every process before this is now stone age technology.

Good point of about the difference between the A380 tail cone layup sequence, and what the 787 is doing. Boeing can now optimise the layup sequence, for applied loads, stress concentrations etc., therefore creating a lighter weight design. This differs significantly from the way it is done in other places.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:50 am

Yes this was posted way back when Boeing started their production. I remember seeing this video. Very nice though  Smile
 
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:10 am

I really enjoyed this video... I'm always trying to find videos and pictures of the building of the 787
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:39 am

Yeah, I've seen this video before and the link to the Flight International article that had the video was posted here, but I could never get that video to play right -- always stopping and jerking. This one played well. Thanks!
 
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:58 pm

Very nice video.

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 4):

The thickness of the barrel at any point is controlled and variable. The tape is laid in multiple directions also.

This is the difference between what Airbus is doing with the 380 tail cone and the 787. Every process before this is now stone age technology.

According to http://www.airbus.com/en/worldwide/airbus_in_spain.html

"...Innovative manufacturing technologies for the use of fibre placement, automatic tape laying and resin transfer moulding are found in these sites."

The devil is in the details. I hope for Boeing's soaring spirits that the 787 will turn out to be a tasty D light.
 
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:17 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 4):
This is the difference between what Airbus is doing with the 380 tail cone and the 787. Every process before this is now stone age technology.

Oh cmon please come down from you hype.  Yeah sure Dont let us forget the A380 has the biggest composite centre wingbox ever made and about al-alloys wich in your eyes are stone age technology:

Quote:

www.alcoa.com

We produced the largest, high-strength, fatigue-resistant upper and lower wing skins ever made.
We manufactured the largest, most damage-tolerant fuselage sheet ever created.
And we engineered new multi-material lockbolts for the assembly of the A380’s center wing box as well as the largest ever wing spar and new landing gear forgings to hold up under the pounding of a lifetime of takeoffs and landings.

This parts couldnt be made with same effect of composites. Even the 787 isnt fully made of composites(AFAIK 63%) and i doubt future aircrafts will be 100% composite.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting AutoThrust (Reply 11):
Oh cmon please come down from you hype. Dont let us forget the A380 has the biggest composite centre wingbox ever made and about al-alloys wich in your eyes are stone age technology:

Calm down, this is about fuselage construction, not wing boxes, and not what Airbus is doing.

There has been much debate about the A-380 tailcone, and how it is made. It does not need to be made like this and it isnt. That was my only point.

Also, "stone age" referred to previous CFRP layup methods, not things like robotic welding of advanced alloys, while impressive, are just not relevant to this discussion.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:03 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 12):
Also, "stone age" referred to previous CFRP layup methods, not things like robotic welding of advanced alloys, while impressive, are just not relevant to this discussion

Ok my apologizes for my misunderstanding. We shouldn't forget at the time the A380 tail cone was designed A& B expertise in composites was not that advanced.
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RE: 787 Production Method Demo Video

Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:46 am

Thank you DeltaDC9. Great video clip. It's amazing how modern planes are manufactured nowadays. Can't wait to see a clip in the "Dreamliner built in 7 minutes" style.

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