LipeGIG
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Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:27 pm

Delta Air Lines flight 60, GIG-ATL on Wednesday night, declared emergency due to fire on one of the engines and returned to GIG. The plane, a 763 under registration N153DL landed at GIG without further problems and in safety.

The plane is still at GIG this night.

Also N173DL, another 763, is on ground at GIG at 0:18 (should depart as DL9895 GIG-ATL at 2200 local time or DL0060 at 2245, this one cancelled probably because N153DL is not able to run a flight)

Does anyone has more info on this ?

Felipe
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:29 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Thread starter):
Also N173DL, another 763, is on ground at GIG at 0:18 (should depart as DL9895 GIG-ATL at 2200 local time or DL0060 at 2245, this one cancelled probably because N153DL is not able to run a flight)

Does anyone has more info on this ?

I'd assume the second aircraft is either N173DZ or N173DN, since DL doesn't have an N173DL.

A DL employee could likely help with any info.

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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:35 pm

Only ship 1503 is grounded at GIG at this time. Ship 173 was sent down to protect the passengers. Ship 173 is not grounded.
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:28 am

Confirmed by GIG Airport. There are now 3 DL ships at GIG:

N153??, going to VEM for maintenance.
N173DN, on position 20R
N188DN, on position 18L. Schedulled for DL60 today.

How many reserve planes does Delta keeps at ATL ?

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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:45 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Thread starter):
Delta Air Lines flight 60, GIG-ATL on Wednesday night, declared emergency due to fire on one of the engines and returned to GIG. The plane, a 763 under registration N153DL landed at GIG without further problems and in safety.

Was it confirmed that a fire was the emergency?
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 2):
Ship 173 was sent down to protect the passengers.

From what?
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:04 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
reserve planes does Delta keeps at ATL ?

None. Every aircraft is committed to the schedule. There may be an a/c that could be pulled from mx.

The days of hot spares are long gone.
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 4):
Was it confirmed that a fire was the emergency?

Yes it was a fire on one of the engines confirmed by Infraero (the company owned by the government that manages Brazilian airports). Fireman's prepared the runway 10-28 with foam. The plane landed safely after dropped the fuel over the Atlantic.

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 6):
None. Every aircraft is committed to the schedule. There may be an a/c that could be pulled from mx.

This is bad, two aircrafts in Rio seems to be a big trouble for the route managers even with a huge fleet like DL.

Felipe
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
Fireman's prepared the runway 10-28 with foam. The plane landed safely after dropped the fuel over the Atlantic.

Are you sure? I thought that practice was ended ages ago because it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:11 am

For what it's worth, there's a distinction between an emergency landing because of a cockpit indication of an engine fire and a post-landing determination that a fire had indeed occurred. You're gonna blow the bottles, shut down the engine, dump fuel and land on either occasion. The difference is whether -- after landing -- you discover that there was a fault in the detection system (common) as opposed to an actual fire in the engine (much less common).
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting Meister808 (Reply 5):
Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 2):
Ship 173 was sent down to protect the passengers.

From what?

Hmmm, common terminology in the air/travel industry. It refers to making sure passengers are not stranded and essentially taken care of.

MB
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:26 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 8):
Are you sure? I thought that practice was ended ages ago because it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Dumping fuel is a VERY important process.

If you land above your maximum weight, the momentum forces upon touchdown can cause damage to the airframe.

Dumping fuel is necessary to get the weight below maximum.
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:33 am

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 11):
Quoting Positiverate (Reply 8):
Are you sure? I thought that practice was ended ages ago because it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Dumping fuel is a VERY important process.

If you land above your maximum weight, the momentum forces upon touchdown can cause damage to the airframe.

Dumping fuel is necessary to get the weight below maximum.



Quoting Positiverate (Reply 8):
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
Fireman's prepared the runway 10-28 with foam. The plane landed safely after dropped the fuel over the Atlantic.

Are you sure? I thought that practice was ended ages ago because it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

I was referring to foaming the runway...
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:53 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 12):
I was referring to foaming the runway...

Ooops. Sorry. Missed the foaming part of your post.
 
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:51 am

Yesterday night, two GIG-ATL flights departed:

Delta Air Lines
9898 Atlanta-USA 14/07/2006 22:00 22:00 1 - Departed

Delta Air Lines
0060 Atlanta-USA 14/07/2006 22:50 22:50 1 - Departed

Only the N153 ship remains on GIG (on VEM MHRO facility)

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 8):
Are you sure? I thought that practice was ended ages ago because it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

I thought the same, never imagine this nowadays, but it seems it was a protective measure, may be with no purpose. Thanks god no injuries and the plane was only damaged on the engine. I will try to take a picture during the weekend.

Felipe
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RE: Delta With 2 Planes Grounded At GIG

Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:16 am

End of story:

N153DL will depart today (monday) from GIG as DL9902 ETD 0110 (local time) destination ATL ETA 0840.

Felipe
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