charlipr
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US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:37 am

I did a search but could not find anything. I was wondering what the status is on the EMB-190 order for US. Also, if once the EMB-190 comes online, will it immediately replace the Mesa CRJ-900 or will they be a one-to-one replacement fo the 733's & 734's. Lately I have been flying a lot between CMH & SAV (via CLT) and 85% of the time it has been on the Mesa CRJ-900's (very nice aircraft; nice and quite, but seating is uncomfortable). IIRC these flights at one point were mostly done with mainline 733/735's. Any thoughts?

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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:56 am

Quoting Charlipr (Thread starter):
Also, if once the EMB-190 comes online, will it immediately replace the Mesa CRJ-900 or will they be a one-to-one replacement fo the 733's & 734's.

Neither. The E190s will be growth aircraft. You'll see some new routes, some routes upgraded from RJs and some routes downgraded from 737s. There are 25 on order with 32 options.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:07 am

When do they receive the first one?
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charlipr
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:20 am

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 1):
The E190s will be growth aircraft.

Will they be deployed initally with US (East) or US (West)? Will they provide growth out of the PHL/CLT or PHX hubs? IIRC they will be flown by mainline pilots, but will it offer a new service upgrade? (i.e. leather seats, IFE, bigger overhead bins, 33"/34" of pitch) B6 has set the bar high with its cabin service. Is US ready/willing to raise it another notch with there new metal?
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:40 am

These will be US East aircraft. No IFE that I know of (perhaps audio), and the back of the plane will be cattle-car class. They're going to be laid out 11/88, with about a 36" pitch in F and a 31" pitch in Y.

What do you mean, "bigger overhead bins?" They'll be the same overhead bins as are in any of the E-Jets. US, raising the bar? Bwahaha, you must be thinking of another US Airways.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:54 am

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 4):
They're going to be laid out 11/88, with about a 36" pitch in F and a 31" pitch in Y.

I did not know it was going to have an F class. New news for me!!!

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 4):
What do you mean, "bigger overhead bins?"

Well, I have flown on the E-170 and they have a bit bigger bin than the E-135/145's. Are the US E-190's overhead bins going to be like the USX E-170's or a little bit bigger? I read on another forum that the B6 190's have bigger bins than usual for a jet it's size and they promote them well. Will they compare to B6's? (Note: I have never flown B6, but will get my first opportunity on Oct. 3rd on the CMH-JFK inaugural flight  bouncy  )

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 2):
When do they receive the first one?

Without breaking any company policies, but do you have any info on the above question posted by 727LOVER?
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting Charlipr (Reply 5):
Without breaking any company policies, but do you have any info on the above question posted by 727LOVER?

I wanna say November...though I can't be sure....it wasn't too far off in the future though I know that. For right now they will be based on the east...though you may see them in PHX or LAS...just not based there.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:10 am

They'll be the same size bins as are in the E170, and the same size bins as are on the B6 190s. They're the exact same bins throughout the Embraer E-Jets series, as they all share a common fuselage structure.

I believe the delivery schedule is for two in November and one per month thereafter until the initial order of 25 is complete. In-service is scheduled for January.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:14 am

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 7):
I believe the delivery schedule is for two in November and one per month thereafter until the initial order of 25 is complete. In-service is scheduled for January.

Sweet!!! I am a FF from CMH-SAV (via CLT), hopefully I get to fly on one of those beauties, and not ever again on one of the Mesa CRJ-900.
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:35 am

Initially they will fly on the East certificate, but keep in mind it's really not THAT much longer until the certificates are merged.
There is also an option for 25 more after the first 25 have been delivered, and the way we are pressed for aircraft right now, I fully expect that option to be exercised.
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:42 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 9):
There is also an option for 25 more after the first 25 have been delivered, and the way we are pressed for aircraft right now, I fully expect that option to be exercised.

I agree! And once they realise how much money it will make them, they will order a bunch more!!! (speculation only; no real evidence available)

I am loving the direction US is taking (except the website)! If they continue this way, US will be the only way I will be flying in the future.
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:48 am

Actually, the second batch is for 32, and according to bankruptcy court documents it's actually a firm order. So really, there's 57 E190s coming for sure. Beyond that, there's 50 more options.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:44 am

Sorry, maybe I was thinking of the 50+50. Either way, I hadn't heard the uneven number.
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:59 am

Form 8-K for US AIRWAYS GROUP INC
23-Feb-2006

Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.

In connection with the assumption of the Amended Purchase Agreement, (i) the Company will place an initial firm order for 25 Embraer 190 aircraft, and (ii) the Company will place an additional firm order for 32 Embraer 190 aircraft.

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060223/lcc8-k.html
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:06 am

In that case, good  Smile
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting Charlipr (Reply 3):
Will they provide growth out of the PHL/CLT or PHX hubs?

The planes will initially all be based at PHL.

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 11):
Actually, the second batch is for 32, and according to bankruptcy court documents it's actually a firm order. So really, there's 57 E190s coming for sure.



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 12):
Sorry, maybe I was thinking of the 50+50. Either way, I hadn't heard the uneven number.

The number wasn't pulled out of thin air. The EMB-190 order is a conversion of the old EMB-170 order, which was for 85 frames, of which 28 of them were made, leaving 57 birds on the order.

And the 32 birds are reconfirmable orders, which are somewhat less than firm.
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:17 am

from what i understand. the first revenue flt will be in dec.
 
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RE: US Airways (EMB-190,CRJ-900,733/734)

Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:26 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 15):
And the 32 birds are reconfirmable orders, which are somewhat less than firm.

So we've got firm orders, reconfirmable orders, slightly less than firm orders, flexible orders, malleable orders, soft orders, options... Big grin
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