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How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:23 am

Swiss Air Lines is now a full member of the Star Alliance. It has added a second daily nonstop from JFK to ZRH. Continental does well on its daily EWR to ZRH routes, occasionally subbing a 767-400 for the 767-200. American and Swiss no longer code share. AA does have a significant share of the New York area business travel market, but I just don't see this route surviving beyond the summer. It was first introduced in 1987 and axed in the late 1990's only to return when LX and AA started code sharing in 2004.

I think AA will keep the DFW-ZRH route for now, especially if LX were to pull out of LAX-ZRH, which has been rumored, but then again SR and LX have flown that route since 1989.

I would think the majority of the traffic to ZRH originates east of the Mississippi.

Surely the AA 767 used on the JFK-ZRH route would be better utilized elsewhere.
 
MAH4546
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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:12 am

The route actually performs just fine, despite the end of the LX codeshare.
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panamair
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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:28 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
The route actually performs just fine, despite the end of the LX codeshare.

Unless things have changed significantly in the last six months, I believe AA 64/65 is highly dependent on the beyond-ZRH connection codeshares (which AA still has with LX through the summer even though the TATL codeshares have ended) - almost 70-80% of the flight is filled with connecting pax., according to AA personnel in ZRH. The real test will be this upcoming winter (not just because of winter) because that's when all of the LX codeshares will have ended and AA will have no feed on the ZRH end and limited feed on the JFK end....
 
ckfred
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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:31 pm

It seems to me that AA ought to considering flying ORD-ZRH. AA used to fly the route before moving its flight to DFW and codesharing with SR/LX on their ORD departures.

Although AA wouldn't have LX connecting traffic at ZRH, it would have the benefit of the ORD hub to feed traffic.
 
atrude777
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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:33 pm

Is their authority to fly STL-ZRH? I know TWA was going to fly it with their A330's but was that changed when AA took over?

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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:36 pm

If it means anything, JFK-ZRH is currently one of the routes AAdvantage is offering reduced mileage awards for both premium and economy travel thru 9/30.

Other current routes with similar offering are RDU-LGW, DFW-KIX and SJC-NRT.
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UnitedFirst
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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:10 pm

Reduced mileage awards on a flight which is heavily subsidized (RDU-LGW), a flight that will likely bite the dust soon (DFW-KIX), and a flight that's already been canceled (SJC-NRT).

The same for JFK-ZRH cannot suggest a positive outlook for that route...

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RE: How Much Longer For AA JFK-ZRH

Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:38 pm

Swiss magazine "TravelInside" reported last Friday in a interview with an AA official that JFK-ZRH is performing well.

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