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AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:35 pm

There was some discussion here before about this. Now it's official.

I thought St. John's was served before to LHR as part of a Halifax stop?

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/060720/e_aircan_nonstop_serv.html?.v=1
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:38 pm

Quoting Boeing757/767 (Thread starter):
thought St. John's was served before to LHR as part of a Halifax stop?

It was.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:42 pm

Would be wicked to see an AC babybus this side of the pond.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:42 pm

What a nice niche market!

At the moment AC flies a daily 763 routing Heathrow-St John's-Halifax. But from later this year and early next, Heathrow-Halifax appears as a daily non-stop 763-operated service - even in January - with no mention of Heathrow-St John's, which might simply not yet be loaded into the system. Who knows?

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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:43 pm

This is a great move by AC. I believe we had all agreed on this even before the A319 was allowed to make this kind of flights... damn we armchair CEO's are getting good at it  Smile
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:44 pm

Great News Big grin

Wierd flight timings tho.....



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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:46 pm

WOW A-319 across the pound... should be around 4 hours to 4.5 hours to go and 5 hours on the way back good for YYT and good for AC to listen to customers


Air Canada to offer non-stop seasonal service between St. John's, NL and London, U. K., with daily flights during summer peak travel
Thursday July 20, 9:58 am ET


MONTREAL, July 20 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today seasonal non- stop service between St. John's, NL and London, U.K. beginning April 6, 2007.
Air Canada's service to London will operate three times weekly on Wednesday, Friday and Sunday in April 2007, increasing to five times a week in May 2007, and to daily service from mid-June to September 2007. Air Canada flight AC830 will leave St. John's at 12:55, arriving in London at 21:25, and flight AC831 will leave London at 22:40 arriving in St. John's at 00:40.

"The people of Newfoundland and Labrador have told us loudly and clearly that they value a non-stop link to the U.K. and we believe we have found a creative solution that meets demand," said Ben Smith, Vice President, Network Planning, Air Canada. "With this service we will be able to offer the convenience of daily non-stop service to London for summer peak travel."

The carrier will operate the route using newly refurbished 120-seat Airbus A319 aircraft in a two-cabin configuration offering a choice of Executive Class and Economy service. The A319 jets to be deployed on this route feature Air Canada's new personal entertainment system currently being introduced fleet-wide with 8.9-inch wide digital in-seat monitors and touch- screen controls offering audio and video on demand programming at every seat. Other features include Air Canada's new seating and cabin design with in-seat power within reach of every customer.

From Newfoundland and Labrador, Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz offer more than 159 scheduled flights each week to 9 destinations across Canada, more than any other carrier.


Air Canada provides scheduled and charter air transportation for
passengers and cargo to more than 150 destinations on five continents.
Canada's flag carrier is the 14th largest commercial airline in the world and
serves more than 30 million customers annually. Air Canada is a founding
member of Star Alliance providing the world's most comprehensive air
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:47 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
At the moment AC flies a daily 763 routing Heathrow-St John's-Halifax. But from later this year and early next, Heathrow-Halifax appears as a daily non-stop 763-operated service - even in January - with no mention of Heathrow-St John's, which might simply not yet be loaded into the system. Who knows?

I was of the understanding that it was to go over to pure LHR-Halifax only. This A319 summer only service would appear to confirm this.

I am surprised thoguh - I would have thought they could have used such a valuable slot for something bigger. Nice as it will be to see an AC 319 over here, I'd have thought it wouldn't have been to hard to fill an extra 763 on something like YTO for the summer.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 5):
Wierd flight timings tho.....

Yep. It seems obvious that the route is primarily, if not virtually exclusively, for O&D (VFR, leisure, perhaps some businesspeople) route. But are there any connections possible?
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
This A319 summer only service would appear to confirm this.

Yeah, that is what I confusingly meant to say. Halifax daily 763; St Johns up to daily 319. So no combined flight.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
I am surprised thoguh - I would have thought they could have used such a valuable slot for something bigger. Nice as it will be to see an AC 319 over here, I'd have thought it wouldn't have been to hard to fill an extra 763 on something like YTO for the summer.

Agree. every time I fly Toronto London in the summer I am struck by how few empty seats there are.

Also, I take it this means no AC service between YYT-LHR from September unitl April.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:53 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):

On the way to LHR they could get feeds from YUL, YQB and maritimes who travel for business and want to get there and get a good night sleep before work.

YYZ already have is day departure to LHR...
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
But are there any connections possible?

For AC830, connections are available from Halifax, Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto.

For AC831, if you are connecting, a wait will be required in YYT of about 5 hours (to YYZ) and 6 hours to YHZ or YUL, based on the current schedules.



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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:57 pm

Connections going east, no probs. Heading into Canada from the UK, huh-uh, I reckon this must be the last arrival of the day. I've always wanted to go there, I'm sure AC would sell a ticket through St Johns from London to Toronto.

I wonder, would the crew overnight in London, or turnaround with the aircraft and fly straight back to St Johns? Pushback at St Johns until landing at St Johns is 11 hours 45 mins.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 12):
For AC831, if you are connecting, a wait will be required in YYT of about 5 hours (to YYZ) based on the current schedules.

With 5/6 daily LHR-YYZ flights as well as direct connections to YYZ via YHZ/YUL/YOW, don't think this is going to be a heavily travelled routing.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:00 am

Smart move by AC this will defiantly make pax on both sides of the pond happy. The XM'ed A319 will be a great product for these passengers. The A32X family just got it's ETOPS approval so from a technical stand-point this routing is doable. But for some reason I still have reservations about flying across the ocean is a baby bus.

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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 14):
don't think this is going to be a heavily travelled routing.

Thing is tho, on the current LHR -YYT - YYZ flights, AC offers routings to YYZ from YYT on the same day. I have done this trip myself Big grin



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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:02 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 13):
I reckon this must be the last arrival of the day

not even close.
there are a number of evening flights from, YYZ, YUL (or maybe no longer?) and YHZ that are scheduled in between 12:00 and 1:00, but by far the worst is AC's late night from YYZ that is scheduled to get in around 3:00 a.m..
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:11 am

A319 Etops should be a nice ride... AC must have a few when they flew YUL-BGI?

I have Flown A319 to ORD and CYO in Business Class and it is very pleasant...

YYT-LHR not even a 5 hours flight

They use the plane YUL-LAX/SFO which seems longer than YYT-LHR

[Edited 2006-07-20 17:14:40]
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 13):
I wonder, would the crew overnight in London, or turnaround with the aircraft and fly straight back to St Johns? Pushback at St Johns until landing at St Johns is 11 hours 45 mins.

My prediction: YYZ based crew will operate or DH to YYT. Layover, and operate a same-day turnaround. Layover in YYT, head back the next day. It's really no different than the current YYZ-BGI turnaround duty day. Also--infinitely cheaper to layover the crew in YYT versus LON.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:20 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 19):
My prediction: YYZ based crew will operate or DH to YYT. Layover, and operate a same-day turnaround. Layover in YYT, head back the next day. It's really no different than the current YYZ-BGI turnaround duty day. Also--infinitely cheaper to layover the crew in YYT versus LON

Very good point!
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:24 am

Interesting move by AC......I assume that the rather unusual arrival and departure times on the London end of the flights is due to slots, it must be easier and cheaper during the evening hours (opposed to the early morning/afternoon rush at LHR). Will passengers accept these unususal flight times, or being that they have little choice, it does not matter?
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:38 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
Will passengers accept these unususal flight times, or being that they have little choice, it does not matter?

I certainly don't mind the flight times Big grin

Heck i'm just glad i'll be able to continue flying non stop to YYT from the UK when I need to Big grin



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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
Yep. It seems obvious that the route is primarily, if not virtually exclusively, for O&D (VFR, leisure, perhaps some businesspeople) route. But are there any connections possible?

Gander on AC Connector and Deer Lake on Air Labrador will connect eastbound. Westbound connnections will involve an overnight at YYT. The YYT will also provide eastbound overflow cnx from YUL and YHZ.

Beyond-LHR outbound cnx will also be a problem with these timings. This sked is basically a daytripper like YYZ has.

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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
I assume that the rather unusual arrival and departure times on the London end of the flights is due to slots

That probably has something to do with it, but also imagine what an overnight flight would look like. YYT is 3:30 off of LHR. So a flight time of 4:30 going east would mean a total of 8 hours time change. The flight would have to leave YYT at 11pm to fly overnight and land during the LHR rush. That is a very short red-eye.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:15 am

I wonder will this lead to us seeing AC A319s in DUB in the future? DUB is one of the only other destinations they could operate with A319 isnt it?
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:29 am

Quoting EIRules (Reply 25):
I wonder will this lead to us seeing AC A319s in DUB in the future? DUB is one of the only other destinations they could operate with A319 isnt it?

YYT-DUB? I dont really see that happening....any AC service to Dublin would originate in Toronto and require 767s. The YYT-LHR route is a long standing niche route that is supported by the historical ties between Canada and the UK and geography.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:32 am

Could a 319 make it DUB-Toronto via SNN?
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:33 am

I believe there is a requirement in the crew contract that a layover (min. of about 10 hours, or so) take place for an Atlantic crossing so I don't think the crews will be able to operate a return flight on the same aircraft. Perhaps the contract has been amended....

Sad that there are often French citizens travelling between St- Pierre et Miquelon (FSP) and France through YYT who will no longer be able to make the trip in either direction without a layover; London eastbound because there are no connecting flights that late to Paris and YYT westbound because the arrival is after midnight.

I'm thrilled that there's another daylight flight eastbound from Canada to Europe. It's a pitty that the connection from Halifax YHZ is so poor. I'm sure it's a great schedule for the aircraft though  Smile
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:57 am

Quoting Dgehfx (Reply 28):
I'm thrilled that there's another daylight flight eastbound from Canada to Europe. It's a pitty that the connection from Halifax YHZ is so poor. I'm sure it's a great schedule for the aircraft though  

Who the heck cares? Halifax has its own dedicated non-stop now.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:59 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 14):
With 5/6 daily LHR-YYZ flights as well as direct connections to YYZ via YHZ/YUL/YOW, don't think this is going to be a heavily travelled routing.

And larger aircraft coming next year. Some of those LHR-YYZ flights will be on 777s.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:59 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 5):
Great News

Wierd flight timings tho.....



Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
I am surprised thoguh - I would have thought they could have used such a valuable slot for something bigger.

Those slots are not very valuable. They might have even been available as completely unused slots. There aren't any Transatlantic flights operating at that time of the day from LHR currently. By using such a small plane, the route will be almost entirely O/D as discussed since there aren't really many connecting opportunities. Overall though this is a good move to keep service between two cities that otherwise would have a very round about connection required.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:10 am

I actually love the timings. Eastbound daytrippers are a new discovery for me, and I'm addicted to them. For one thing, checking in for a flight to the UK in the early morning is a complete novelty. Also, no jetlag! Yes, it's a short day (from JFK, you take off at 9am and only five or six hours later, it's 9pm on landing at LHR) but you have an early start and you're travelling so you really are tired after the day. Get home at 10.30pm, smoke a fat one, watch a couple of Family Guys or a movie, in bed at midnight and sleep for eight hours. Ta da! So much better than being dumped at LHR at dawn after a sleepless night in the air, having to stay awake all day feeling dizzy with exhaustion, tailing off in the middle of sentences, you wallet's in the fridge and you can't find the milk etc; or giving in and sleeping all day, and staying out of sync for a fortnight.

So not only is it a daytripper (yaaaay!!) but it leaves at midday! Wow! I've always wanted to go to Labrador, but this is such a well-timed flight, I now want to go so I can try out the flight as well. And I can't wait to see an Air Canada A319 at Heathrow. This is the best route announcement ever.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
Will passengers accept these unususal flight times, or being that they have little choice, it does not matter?

There's nothing unusual about these times at all. I think the vast majority of O/D traffic will welcome not losing a nights sleep. I think the timings are brilliant. Getting off the plane and going to bed in both directions seems like a great move.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 24):
The flight would have to leave YYT at 11pm to fly overnight and land during the LHR rush. That is a very short red-eye.

The current YHZ-YYT-LHR routing, which has existed for years, has the YYT leg departing at 2355. So a 2300 departure wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary.

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 32):
This is the best route announcement ever.

LHR is one of the few airports in the world where the spotters are probably more excited that a new narrowbody flight has been announced over a widebody. Seeing all those 747s/330s/340s/767s etc. at LHR must get to be pretty boring after awhile eh.  Wink Although, when I was at LHR a few weeks ago, I must admit, it was pretty exciting to see a Luxair ERJ; wouldn't have ever thought an airline would place RJ equipment on an LHR flight.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 33):
There's nothing unusual about these times at all.

Yes, pax love arriving at their destination at 0040 in the middle of the night....and then go through immigration/baggage claims/customs and not be in one's home or hotel until 0200. No, thats not unusual???

And, daylight flights from North America to Europe are also rare.

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 33):
I think the timings are brilliant.

Some may disagree with you on this.


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I think its safe to say that the timing of this flight was greatly influenced by aircraft utilization issues and slot concerns at LHR.

Does anyone know what the A319 will be doing on the days that its NOT flying to London?
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 35):
on the days that its NOT flying to London

Will fly between YHZ-YUL/YYZ than back to YYT from either...
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 35):
I think its safe to say that the timing of this flight was greatly influenced by aircraft utilization issues and slot concerns at LHR.

Totally agreed.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 35):
Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 33):
I think the timings are brilliant.

Some may disagree with you on this.

And some may disagree with you. Whatever.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:05 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 35):
Yes, pax love arriving at their destination at 0040 in the middle of the night....and then go through immigration/baggage claims/customs and not be in one's home or hotel until 0200. No, thats not unusual???

Yeah but their body clocks will not be adjusted to those times. Besides it's mainly a leisure route and if you look at the timings of charter flights in Europe then why is this so different? It's only a five hour flight.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting Greenjet (Reply 38):
Yeah but their body clocks will not be adjusted to those times.

No, its really 4 oçlock in the morning per their body clocks when they arrive at YYT......that makes it better?

Quoting Greenjet (Reply 38):
Besides it's mainly a leisure route and if you look at the timings of charter flights in Europe then why is this so different? It's only a five hour flight.

Firstly, pax rarely get to chose their charter flights when booking a package holiday in Europe....the flights are assigned. Also, the cost and pricing of the flights are very different than the pricing AC utilizes on this transatlantic flight.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
Wierd flight timings tho

Perfect for a long weekend.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 26):
YYT-DUB? I dont really see that happening....any AC service to Dublin would originate in Toronto and require 767s. The YYT-LHR route is a long standing niche route that is supported by the historical ties between Canada and the UK and geography.

I just flew this last week from DUB-SNN-YYZ on the AC767

From DUB-SNN the flight was rammed full (combination of sleepy West Bound Passengers from YYZ, and brigt wide awake East Bound passengers from DUB.

At SNN everyone was deplaned, then those from DUB, plus the new passengers from SNN were re-boarded to YYZ.

Flight was 100% full from DUB-SNN, and about 90% from SNN-YYZ.

AC doesnt have traffic rights for DUB-SNN (I had to leave my girlfriend behind in DUB instead of accompanying me to SNN) [she returned to LHR on bmi]. Trip report coming soon.
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 32):
smoke a fat one

Gee Cedarjet..... what DO you do for a living? Sounds like a very intersting life!

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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:31 am

wow I'm so happy AC will be using the A319 to overseas and that AC will continue to offer service to LHR from YYT during seasonal. I would love to try fly the A319 overseas to England.  Smile Is it possible now with B737-900ER will do overseas to Europe from the US or Canada?
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 42):
Is it possible now with B737-900ER will do overseas to Europe from the US or Canada?

Nope.......the 739ER is not designed with those operations in mind. Remember, YYT is much closer to Europe than BOS, EWR, YUL, etc.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:15 am

For those not familiar with the background:

It appears AC decided back in April to change the YHZ-YYT-LHR flight (usually a 763) into a YHZ-LHR non-stop and drop YYT altogether. I'm not sure if there were planning to create this new flight, or if all the bad PR in Newfoundland encouraged them to re-examine the situation. The quote in the press release:

"The people of Newfoundland and Labrador have told us loudly and clearly that they value a non-stop link to the U.K. and we believe we have found a creative solution that meets demand," said Ben Smith, Vice President, Network Planning, Air Canada. "With this service we will be able to offer the convenience of daily non-stop service to London for summer peak travel."

Makes it appears that this flight is a recent idea. See these links for more:
http://www.yyznews.com/May.html
and scroll down to "June 1st" section: http://www.yyznews.com/Jun.html

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 37):
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 35):
I think its safe to say that the timing of this flight was greatly influenced by aircraft utilization issues and slot concerns at LHR.

Totally agreed.

Indeed, the times make even more sense with the above info.
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aircanada014
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:02 am

If AC uses the A319 to LHR from YYT why don't they offer year round service with only 3 weekly flights instead of seasonal service? With small capacity isn't there any demands for year round service?
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:41 pm

Good move by AC! Feels kind of weird that it'd take me longer to fly transcon from YVR to YYT than from YYT to LHR.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:22 pm

The timings were probably governed by two things. 1) The cost of slots at LHR, which are designed to encourage off peak use like this. 2) The market is probably a price sensitive one who are happy to fly at "odd" times if the price is right. The flight times are not that bad either way IMO.
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:55 pm

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 6):
"The people of Newfoundland and Labrador have told us loudly and clearly that they value a non-stop link to the U.K. and we believe we have found a creative solution that meets demand," said Ben Smith, Vice President, Network Planning, Air Canada

Very clever choice of words, I have to admit that. But here is how I read this:

The UK - Canada open sky agreement is finally coming into effect this September. As a result we - Air Canada management - figured out that there's a strong possibility that some small but otherwise obscure UK air-operators might just think about fulfilling the people of Newfoundland and Labrador's dream and start that very same route with freshly wet-leased A320. So we decided to discourage their naughty . . . naughty thoughts and even give'em a good run for their borrowed money if necessary!
 
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RE: AC: St. John's-LHR With A319

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:03 pm

It's going to be very interesting to see AC babybus flying over the Atlantic and Westjet babyboeing flying over the pacific. There will be lots of pictures of A319 at LHR posted on net eh?...