eastern023
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Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:28 am

I wonder if they ever consider more destinations in the USA?. Right now they only serve MIA, JFK and LAX. I bet there is more room to grow. Canada perhaps?
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:25 am

I could see LA going to DFW because of AA. Maybe ORD, but less likely in my opinion.

BWI is certainly out of the question. As for IAD, I bet that O&D traffic between Chile/Perú and Washington, D.C. is very thin and is best served via MIA. Moreover, the lack of connection opportunities at IAD is another reason not to try it.

With respect to Canada, remember that LADECO, a carrier acquired by LA some years ago, used to fly to YUL (or YMX, I dunno) from SCL. If my memory serves me well, it was a direct flight with one or two en-route stops (maybe a 752 was used but, again, I'm not sure). Sadly, I don't think LA has Canada in its plans at this time. Landing fees at YYZ are very expensive and I don't think there is much reason to fly to YUL. And since neither is a oneworld hub, no connectivity there either. Canada is also best served via MIA.
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
I could see LA going to DFW because of AA.

Not as long as AA is already flying DFW-SCL.

LAN Cargo at DFW I would see before passengers services.
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:19 am

If I remember correctly, LA served YMX for a short time in the late 1970s or early 1980s.

I would like LA to serve IAD. If a One World hub is preferable, ORD is good choice. I hope LA adds new destinations in North America. After all, it is a financially sound airline with a strong inter-American route network.
 
chris133
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:21 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
BWI is certainly out of the question

Why is that may i ask? Good o&d market, good location close proximity to three major cities, major port operations, and airport will and ready to build a new terminal for international travel, and two large airlines that will be ready to do international code shares very soon.
 
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 4):
Good o&d market,

Certainly not to Chile.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 4):
good location close proximity to three major cities,

That works when arguging for low-fare domestic service, not international service. People aren't going to drive to Baltimore from NoVa or Philadelphia to catch a LAN flight, and those are the areas the flight would need to feed most from.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 4):
major port operations,

When something is shipped by boat, it is frequently because it is too expensive to ship it by plane.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 4):
and airport will and ready to build a new terminal for international travel,

Never heard that before (cough DFW cough).

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 4):
and two large airlines that will be ready to do international code shares very soon.

And LAN has absolutely no interest codesharing with airTran or Southwest when they have a strong partner in AA.

LAN would last maybe a week at BWI. Just the though is a joke. LAN to IAD is reasonable, but I still would not hold my breathe.
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chris133
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Certainly not to Chile.


You might be surprised what regions have a large population in the Mid-atlantic region.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
When something is shipped by boat, it is frequently because it is too expensive to ship it by plane

Having worked at the port of baltimore and for an airline cargo department i can tell you they are a lot more connected than you may think.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Never heard that before (cough DFW cough).

Demolitions and alterations have already begun as part of the airports 2 billion remodel.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
And LAN has absolutely no interest codesharing with airTran or Southwest when they have a strong partner in AA.

Once again you would be surprised when there is money to be made what companies will do.
 
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:50 am

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 6):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Never heard that before (cough DFW cough).

Demolitions and alterations have already begun as part of the airports 2 billion remodel.

That's great. However, "build and they will come" isn't a valid arguement. Because airports, like DFW, have built it. And "they" still have not come.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 6):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Certainly not to Chile.


You might be surprised what regions have a large population in the Mid-atlantic region.

No, I wouldn't be. I know the Mid-Atlantic region is quite densely populated. Lots of places are densely populated. That means nothing about supporting a flight to Chile. USA-Chile is a very small market.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 6):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
When something is shipped by boat, it is frequently because it is too expensive to ship it by plane

Having worked at the port of baltimore and for an airline cargo department i can tell you they are a lot more connected than you may think.

I am sure they are connected in many ways, but it isn't a key lure for airlines. Some of the country's largest cargo hubs - Memphis, Louisville, and Dallas - are nowhere near a port.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 6):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
And LAN has absolutely no interest codesharing with airTran or Southwest when they have a strong partner in AA.

Once again you would be surprised when there is money to be made what companies will do.

I can see it now. LAN drops their profitable and successful codeshare and anti-trust immunity with American Airlines, a leader in US-LatAm travel, so that they can feed their flights with the thousands and thousands of Southwest and airTran flyers who annually flock to Chile, which attracts American tourists by the boatloads.  sarcastic  And the happy faces of LAN travelers when, accustomed to an airline that has made it's profits focusing on offering top notch premium and business-passenger friendly services, get a boarding pass with a letter on it so they can cattle themselves onto a plane to Providence. Although, maybe LAN and Southwest can arrange something in which all LAN passengers automatically get assigned to A and LAN to airTran passengers automatically get seated in business.

Just the suggestion that LA would codeshare with FL and WN is as absurd as thinking LAN would ever fly to BWI.
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eastern023
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:05 am

The argument started because Ladeco (Bought by Lan back in the late 90's) used to fly into BWI. But, yes I do think IAD would make more sence.
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:45 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
With respect to Canada, remember that LADECO

As posted, UC also flew to Washington

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
carrier acquired by LA some years ago, used to fly to YUL (or YMX, I dunno) from SCL

And sadly aquired, as Ladeco has been by far the best airline this country has produced

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
I don't think LA has Canada in its plans at this time

I'm sure to I've seen Toronto as LAN 80s-90s destination

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
when they have a strong partner in AA

AS is also LA partner

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 6):
You might be surprised what regions have a large population in the Mid-atlantic region

Well, as posted, the main reason for not having 10 flights per day is to realize that Chile is country with only 15 million population. Besides, unlike Argentines, we do't have a massive emmigration/immigration culture, so when compared, we kind of stay at home...
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eastern023
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RE: Lan Ever Consider IAD Or BWI?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:37 am

Maybe SCL-LIM-IAD could potentially work. Big Peruvian population in Washington, DC and No. Virginia.
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