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One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:34 pm

MSN005 maiden flight was Wednesday 19 July. Currently known as F-WWSB, this is the second aircraft slated for delivery to Singapore with registration 9V-SBK.


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That makes six airframes flown.
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:37 pm

Congrats to the A380, the sooner they get delivered the better!
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:05 pm

So... they've built and flown 6 airframes, yet plan to deliver only 1 this year (barely!).

What's the status of the remaining 5 airframes? I gather there's a problem with the electrical harnesses, etc. Are they going to have to refit all of them one by one before customer delivery? Or are the first 6 machines going to be hand-built "one-offs", ie the wiring harnesses in those are OK for customer delivery, but mass-production has hit a snag?

I have no doubt that the A380 is going to be a long-term success.
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:25 pm

MSN001 F-WWOW is at the Farnborough airshow
MSN002 F-WXXL is in Toulouse (?) with a 474-seat test cabin
MSN003 F-WWSA is in Hamburg for cabin fitting for Singapore Airlines
MSN004 F-WWDD is in Abu Dhabi for hot weather testing
MSN005 F-WWSB is in Hamburg for cabin fitting for Singapore Airlines
MSN007 F-WWSD is in Hamburg for cabin fitting (another three-class test cabin)

MSN009 F-WWEA (with GP7200 engines) is supposed to fly by the end of this month. Notice the new EA registration for Engine Alliance  Smile

More details in recent Flight International article
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:26 pm

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 2):
I have no doubt that the A380 is going to be a long-term success.

It's already been a pretty LONG term, though. I'm increasingly reminded of the economist John Maynard Keynes' well-known quote - "In the long-run, we are all dead."
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:48 pm

What happened to MSN006 and MSN008?
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting Gregarious119 (Reply 5):
What happened to MSN006 and MSN008?

They are both on the assembly line and will both go to Singapore Airlines when completed. MSN008 was used for a show-and-tell for the media a few weeks ago to illustrate the difficulties Airbus was having with the wiring and how they were being resolved. I'm told that, besides French newspapers, Flight International was there as well...
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:15 am

Anyone know if/when the A380 will come to IAD? and with which carrier? (if the paint scheme isn't good, it's not worth looking at)
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:03 am

Registration for MSN005 should be 9V-SKB, not 9V-SBK.
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:05 am

Are there any pics of F-WWEA with its engines installed?
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:19 am

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3):
MSN007 F-WWSD is in Hamburg for cabin fitting (another three-class test cabin)

IIRC, this aircraft was originally scheduled to be re-engined with GP7200s during the flight-test program for route proving of the EA engine. I didn't see any mention of re-engining this aircraft in the FI article; perhaps the second program delay has obviated the necessity of doing this as the schedule isn't quite as compressed as before?
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting Si02y (Reply 8):
Registration for MSN005 should be 9V-SKB, not 9V-SBK.

Whoops, sorry for the typo.

Quoting Hotelbravo (Reply 9):
Are there any pics of F-WWEA with its engines installed?

Yes. Not here on a.net, but on the French foxalpha.com forum... that's where you can get the latest action from the Toulouse spotter squad.

Good news that 9V-SKB will be joined by 9 new sisters!  Smile
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:08 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 4):
It's already been a pretty LONG term, though.

Come on -- it's a brand new plane!

I know nothing about airplane design for fun or profit (I'm a SW engineer by trade), but it seems like this is a complicated project.

Is there anything on this machine that isn't new, or treading new territory? It's a brand-new fuselage, new wing, new gear, ... did I mention it's really, really big?

Yes, they've slipped their schedule, and yes, they're having some problems, and they're probably not going to make any profits on it for quite some time... but 10 years from now, won't we look back at the slips, problems, etc as blips in history? (Either that, or the thing that killed Airbus, I guess...)

I'm sure there will be other slips in similarly ambitious projects. The 787 project is having hiccups (although those seem to be under control for now, according to Boeing), I'm sure next-gen products from both competitors will have problems along the way...

Heck, Toyota just recalled like half a million (!!) cars. The difference with cars is that if your single engine fails, you pull over.
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:31 am

Nudelhirsch...

I'm not critizising the A380 either. I think it's just plain overblown when someone installs a toilet seat on one, that there is immediate mention of it calling that: "news".

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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting Moparman (Reply 17):
'm not critizising the A380 either. I think it's just plain overblown when someone installs a toilet seat on one, that there is immediate mention of it calling it "news".

True to some point, but people like Aboulafia make news out of it, and Leelaw and BoomBomm spend all day looking for the news and posting them here when Aboulafia then announces that the toilet seat is slightly less comfortable than the one on a Boeing...

Apart from that, it's a new model, one that already created a ton of news, so another of them flying is newsworthy too. It'll quiet soon as they start delivering, we'll then see 10 threads per day about how Boeing is baking the 787 and when those start flying, there will be the same hype. This is an aviation site, and for us, this is news...
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:09 am

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 2):
Or are the first 6 machines going to be hand-built "one-offs", ie the wiring harnesses in those are OK for customer delivery, but mass-production has hit a snag?

Every aircarft built is a hand-built "one-off" there is no other way to build them.
 
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RE: One Less A380 In Toulouse

Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:27 pm

Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 14):
Leelaw and BoomBomm spend all day looking for the news and posting them here when Aboulafia then announces that the toilet seat is slightly less comfortable than the one on a Boeing...

Thankfully, the membership can rely on you and other vigilant members with superior understanding of the subject matter to immediately debunk the boatloads of nonsense we post originating in the mainstream media and specialized trade publications.

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