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IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:45 pm

From: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1784095.cms

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NEW DELHI: Liquor baron Vijay Mallya is out shopping again. And this time round, Mallya has set his sights on an US-based premium-class-only airline MAXjet Airways to fuel his dreams of taking Kingfisher Airlines international.
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Mallya is in advanced talks with MAXjet for an outright acquisition - a deal that would give his Kingfisher Airlines rights to mount transatlantic flights and even operate between US and India, sources close to the development told ToI. The deal is expected to be concluded over few months.
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Mallya, sources said, intends to also use the MAXjet acquisition to start direct flights between US and India under the bilateral Open Sky arranement between the two nations. "Negotiations are underway and they are at an advanced stage.

If the deal comes through, Kingfisher would be able to operate international flights using the MAXjet fleet from next year and augment the operations with its own long-haul jets that join its fleet from 2008,"the sources said.

Mallya confirmed the acquisition plan but refused to divulge details about his target airline. "We are talking with four US airlines for our international acquisition and MAXjet is one of them. The talks are still at a preliminary stage and nothing has been decided so far,"he said.

The acquisition, sources said, is aimed at cruising past the Indian regulation that restricts international flights only to airlines that have a five-year domestic flight track record. The purchase is expected to be carried out through his US-based venture - Kingfisher International Airlines (KIA) - in order to meet the law of the land.

US norms do not allow foreign ownership of airlines in America. Since Mallya's children - Sidhartha, Leana and Tanya - own a majority 75% stake in KIA as American citizens, this venture would meet the US regulation on ownership of airlines, sources said....
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:09 pm

Dont'know but a lot of my friends in India tell me that anything that apppears on the Times of India should be taken with a big spoon of salt... Wink
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:49 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 1):
Dont'know but a lot of my friends in India tell me that anything that apppears on the Times of India should be taken with a big spoon of salt...

no not quite!!

I don't think it would be a good idea to buy a US airlines. I dont' think it is that simple to seek permission of DoT to fly international. I sincerely hope he does not have to go through what Mittal had to in Euorpe.
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:35 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 2):
I dont' think it is that simple to seek permission of DoT to fly international.

Maxjet already flies international from the US. But they are a small airline with only two aircraft.


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Quoting Aseem (Reply 2):
I sincerely hope he does not have to go through what Mittal had to in Euorpe.

The two are completely different situations. Of course, Mittal finally had to settle for a minority stake in the merged entity, which is ok as his operations are spread all over the world. I doubt mallya would want that, as he probably wants to use maxjets' rights to fly international from India to the US, bypassing the Indian government's regulations.
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:40 pm

Is there anyone (from Maxjet) who confirm whether such discussions are actually taking place (or not)?
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:45 pm

It is correct to say that anything that appears in the Times of India should be taken with a grain of salt. At least in this case...

The word from MAXjet is "No."

And they are a growing airline with Three Aircraft....

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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:03 pm

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 1):
US norms do not allow foreign ownership of airlines in America. Since Mallya's children - Sidhartha, Leana and Tanya - own a majority 75% stake in KIA as American citizens, this venture would meet the US regulation on ownership of airlines, sources said....

That is true, but the language is 'substantially owned, and effectively controlled' If Daddy runs the company, it isn't controlled by US citizens. They would have to craft their management structure very carefully.
 
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:29 pm

Again - the article should not be taken seriously....

Another interpretation - given that Mallya has been seeking International Route Authority for some time, this is one way of attempting to goad the Indian government into doing something....
 
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:08 am

This months Airline Business magazine noted that Kingfisher was looking to purchase a US carrier via his children. According to the article, a new airline in India cannot fly int'l for I believe 5 years after start up. Mallya wants a way around it, and MaxJet cetainly fits his business model. Some of you may not like the source, but it sounds plausible when combined with other sources.
 
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:29 am

Again....it's not happening.
 
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:28 am

Interesting.I wonder how this Transpired,The News Article  Smile
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:31 am

How is maxjet doing? If they're doing well they'll have no interest in being bought out by Kingfisher.
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:10 am

As to your above point.....Exactly.
 
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:27 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
How is maxjet doing? If they're doing well they'll have no interest in being bought out by Kingfisher.

Are Maxjet really doing well? Does not seem like it given their limited fleet size (2 now 3 a/c)?
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 13):
Are Maxjet really doing well? Does not seem like it given their limited fleet size (2 now 3 a/c)?

How old is this Airline.
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RE: IT (Kingfisher Airlines) Looking To Buy Maxjet?

Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:36 am

This pretty much puts an end to this discussion:

See MaxJet release:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060725/20060725005695.html?.v=1
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